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Message started by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 13:26:32

Title: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 13:26:32

Here is my solution for the dreaded "Deadbutt" that we get while riding our savages/s40s.

In the first pic. You can see that I have raised the front seat connection point by 2 inches. I used 3/8 id plactic pipe as the spacers.
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0012.jpg

In the second picture, you can see that I drilled two small holes and screwed in to sheet metal screws to keep the secondary seat supports in line with the frame. http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0014.jpg

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 13:30:17

Now for the mods to the seat itself. If you turn your seat upside-down, there are two rubber stoppers. I pulled these off. There is a hole where there were. I took a piece of 3/8 inch wooden dowel and sanded it so that the end of the dowel will fit in the holes. Then I sanded a concave face into the 3/8 pipe where it will sit on the frame. (the screwheads of the sheet metal screws fit inside the pipe ends to help keep them from moving around.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0015.jpg

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 13:33:04

This finishes the front of the seat. After I raised the front, I realized there was a lot of space between the rubber cushion under the seat and the frame. I cut two pieces of wood (1 for each side) and using an old piece of inner tube, I fastened these wood pieces to the rubber cushion on the bottomside of the seat.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0016.jpg

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 13:36:39

Lastly, I moved the mounting brackets on the seat a little. All I did was remove the bolts and instead of using 2 bolts to hold the bracket, I offset it and moved it back the length of the bracket and used just one bolt to hold it.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0017.jpg

Now put the seat back on, and this is what it should look like.
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/ToymakerNC/IMG_0018.jpg

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by flcruzr on 07/22/08 at 18:39:48

Thanks for this informative post! Another great idea!

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/22/08 at 18:55:18

Thanks, however, I forgot to say how tall I went. The spacer pipes on the front mount are 2", as are the seat support pipes. The wooden spacers are 1" tall.

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Starzuki on 07/22/08 at 21:03:44

Great work!!

Now if we could just get some one to make a stretched tank to fill in around the seat!

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by zilla on 07/22/08 at 21:11:43

That could cure my problem of getting my sac pinched betwixt the tank and saddle. (I roll commando) And happen to be 6'2"

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Wagslick on 07/22/08 at 22:20:09

2C3F3A3A37560 wrote:

... (I roll commando) And happen to be 6'2"

Gross.... get a helmet for that thing.

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Jay on 07/23/08 at 02:06:28

Toymaker,
Awesome post, and thanks for the pics. I'm considering doing something very similar to my '08, one piece seat. Your post really helped gel up the ideas in my head.

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by FreeSpirit on 07/23/08 at 12:12:01

576B66576C7A6E62686671030 wrote:

Question....How did you fasten them? with what? Looks good,just trying to understand each step.

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/23/08 at 12:40:29

I fastened the wooden blocks with a piece of rubber from an old inner tube. I took rubber cement and glued the inner tube piece to the side of the seat rubber then put the block on top of the seat rubber and wrapped the inner tube piece around it and rubber cemented it in place. Then I took my staple gun and stapled it in a few places so the rubber wouldn't move.

Does that help?

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Keith_T on 07/23/08 at 12:51:40

How much better is the comfort factor for you with the mod?

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by FreeSpirit on 07/23/08 at 14:14:01

566A67566D7B6F63696770020 wrote:

Yes,Very much ;)

After I raised the seat,last year,the middle felt sunken like it had no foam,very uncomfortable.

So,this is good info 8-)

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Toymaker on 07/23/08 at 14:33:51

6C626E736F627573070 wrote:

How much better is the comfort factor for you with the mod?

Well, the mod allows me to ride farther back on the seat, plus, with the height adjusted, I noticed a change in my leg angle. I was planning on installing Ed.L's forward controls, but now, I am not so sure. I was trying to see how it would feel...like sitting in a lounge chair.

So, the comfort level is improved for me. I'm 5'11 and 230 lbs. So anything I can do for my butt is welcomed. :)

PS, since the mod, I have moved the pillion seat back as well, about 1 inch or so. My daughter says it takes a lot of the vibration away because now the seat is tight against the sissy bar.

Title: Re: Adifferent kind of seat mod...with pics
Post by Rock_Steady on 09/14/08 at 14:55:46

I had much the same idea this morning when I decided to attack the seat. Not much of an attack, mind you - I had previously done the seat mod for lifting the front end of the seat. After looking at what others have done, the 1" #7 stoppers I put there really weren't enough. Added another 3/4 or an inch in height there and instead of removing the rubber blocks, I added to them by cutting a piece of mine belt (basically 1" thick vulcanized rubber reinforced with kevlar) to sit on the frame rails and zip-tied it in place.

I initially moved the rear seat supports like you did, but find that the rear of the seat is just about my biggest problem - if it is up too high, it hurts. Bad.

So, I returned the seat supports to stock configuration, removed the wire harness block from the rear of the seat (no wires sit there anyway) and left it at that.

I would like to tell you that this has done wonders, but with a butt already sore from an hour-long AM ride, I can't tell. These have made an improvement over stock, but longer trips on the savage are still a no-go.