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Title: What is the one thing you would change on yur bike Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/12/08 at 06:48:14 What is the one thing you would change on your S40/Savage? I'm not talking paint or chrome. I'm talking something in the way the bike is made. In the almost 400 miles I put on my new bike, the one thing I would change would be speedo placement. I bit higher up, perhaps on the bars. With my full helmet, I have to tip my head down a bit, and as a biker newb it would be a little better being able to keep my eyes on the road more. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 06:54:50 Wished it was about 50 lbs heavier.Front is very light compare to other bikes. Also geared higher should turn about 500 less rpm at 60mph. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Bleemus on 07/12/08 at 06:55:57 The seat! It sucks! |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Mr. Hyde on 07/12/08 at 06:56:09 Clean up the rear fender so you could switch between a solo seat or a 2 up. (I have a list). |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by SuziQ on 07/12/08 at 07:06:10 NOTHING. But fuel injection with fuel cut would be nice, I've heard that it is being formatted for a future model. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Keith55 on 07/12/08 at 07:08:02 all of the above. I wish it had bigger frame and about 100# more weight. It be pretty easy to put speed odometer on the bars use deferent gas tank. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 07/12/08 at 08:13:07 I'd change the rider. He would be able to figure out how to carry more fuel for a little longer range without messing around with an already perfect bike. 4carbcorvair, a bicycle computer mounted on the bars took care of that speedo location problem for me. Costs about ten bucks. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by verslagen1 on 07/12/08 at 08:28:09 Slightly larger tank, about 3.5 to 4 gals. And if the genie granted more than one wish... shaft drive over head cam or push rod old style bench seat speedo/tach on bars |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/12/08 at 08:42:24 3562607363626E7377606873010 wrote:
The only thing I would change on how the bike is made would be to offer a selection of frames, or at least one more, stretched to fit taller people. Moving the seat back three or four inches would make the bike much more acceptable to large people. Otherwise, I'd leave a tried and proven design alone. Most of what people want can be added individually. I'm slowly building up courage to try to cut and braze my spare gas tank to (1) remove the speedometer well and (2) increase the height by two inches. Should give me at least a gallon greater capacity. But a touring size tank is not really sellable on a city cruiser/beginner bike so I would not expect Suzuki to change the design to what I want. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/12/08 at 08:43:42 383336366C6D5A0 wrote:
Add lead filled crash bars. Switch to chain drive. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/12/08 at 08:46:15 5D737A7A726A6C1F0 wrote:
Royally! Swap it out. You can get a cheap little springer or spend about $500 for Bill Mayer (any butt, any bike) to make you a one off custom (he wants photos of you and your bike so as to make the seat fit.) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by rigidchop on 07/12/08 at 08:47:35 i simply want as much power as a DRZ 400, reliably. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 08:48:02 I've thought of both of them,,But I really like the belt. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/12/08 at 08:53:49 437C2046776A6B0E0 wrote:
Greg did an excelent job: http://savage.andruschak.net/greg_650.html You could go with a springer seat, and have mounts on the fender for a second springer seat for a passenger. Or a luggage rack with a seat to fit it as I had on my old DT175. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by photojoe on 07/12/08 at 08:55:51 Easier access to the spark plug would be nice. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Gort on 07/12/08 at 09:02:28 1E30393931292F5C0 wrote:
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by flcruzr on 07/12/08 at 09:04:27 I enjoy my bike just the way it is, all of the mods I have in mind are just ways to make the personalization of my bike more fun for me. :D |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/12/08 at 09:08:30 20262725383E25244A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 10:09:27 0D232A2A223A3C4F0 wrote:
There are actually several good seat mods here somewhere. I wish they were all in the tech section,easy to find!! ;D I still have a little problem finding things through the search :( (Only can get 100 post and trust me,put in the word seat and there is probably over 1000 posts....LOL.Many do not like the original seat) And so far that is the main thing I want to change!! Then get decent hwy bars and floorboards! That pretty much covers it. and the cash to do it ;) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by YonuhAdisi on 07/12/08 at 10:13:49 I've pretty much done all the physical changes I would want to have done except the seat. I am still running the stock seat, but I will be modding that after I get my engine issues taken care of. By the way, most of the changes that are talked about can be done by the owner for little or no money. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by skrapiron on 07/12/08 at 10:26:49 I really wouldn't change anything. 100lbs more or 6" longer and it wouldn't be a Savage any longer. It would be another run of the mill, oversized gutless wonder of a mid-cruiser. The stock seat is really not that bad. I like the riding position and the 2.8 gallon tank provides sufficient range-to-cramp factor. I need to stop and get the circulation going every 2 hours anyway so why not stop for gas while I'm at it? If I had to pick ONE thing, I would like the frame stretched about 3" to provide better passenger room and a bit more leg-room for the rider. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by aebooze on 07/12/08 at 10:33:10 i would change the helmet lock, because its pretty much useless where its at with saddlebags and I don't like the design of it. I like the idea of using a gun lock instead. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 10:36:57 Couple more inches in swing arm would give a long travel suspension more room on bike and would hold the road better at speed.And I think the bike would look better. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 10:40:42 5660617A674E6B667C660F0 wrote:
Let's start another additional Topic ....How to Make Changes With Little or No Money! (LOL) I'm all for that ;) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 10:57:21 202B2E2E7475420 wrote:
Dumb question,but my point is to learn :) Does adding weight to the bike(bags,etc) help the lightness of the front? Or does the tkat help with that either? |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by BurnPgh on 07/12/08 at 11:01:13 tripmeter and tach. Speedo on handlebars. Eaiser access to sparkplug. tubeless tires. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Steve M on 07/12/08 at 11:26:08 I'd like the engine to be in ahigher state of tune and geared to reach about a 100 mph. Here in Uk on longer trips involving dual carriageways / motorways cruising at 80 to 90 mph is common. I like the savage it is real fun to ride, bouncy suspension on the back roads near me and puts a smile on my face. Swapping from my moto guzzi 1100 sport to the savage is sorta like getting out of a car and driving a go cart! Anything involving more than 100 miles in a day and it's the guzzi though I'm afraid as the savage is to slow for longer runs. The savage just needs another 10 to 15 hp to be a decent all rounder. Anyone else have other bikes and still use a savage just because it's a hoot to ride? |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by SV og LS on 07/12/08 at 11:44:06 4A484855421217270 wrote:
My Savage is now officially my wife's bike and I've a SV650. I still ride the LS occasionally. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by dropoutjohn on 07/12/08 at 12:16:35 [/quote]Let's start another additional Topic ....How to Make Changes With Little or No Money! (LOL) I'm all for that ;)[/quote] this is what i am trying to do. in other words, just edit what came with the bike in stock form. just change one thing... the airbox/carb/exhaust system. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 12:24:40 Free Spirit Putting saddlebags or any thing on back of bike make the front lighter |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 12:25:02 70667B647B61607E7B7C7A140 wrote: this is what i am trying to do. in other words, just edit what came with the bike in stock form. just change one thing... the airbox/carb/exhaust system.[/quote] Cool...but show me how to do that with little or no money ;)I would like a great sounding muffler! Or are you saying change the one that's already on there somehow? :-/ |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 12:27:19 595257570D0C3B0 wrote:
Oh Sh@t...LOL. What about putting something heavy in a fork bag? That may change the steering though :-/ |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 12:35:11 A 40 pound bag of salt in your fork bag would help |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 13:01:42 4A4144441E1F280 wrote:
How big is a 40 lb bag of salt? |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by bill67 on 07/12/08 at 13:47:54 I was teasing fork bag to small to put any weight in |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/12/08 at 14:00:19 4E4540401A1B2C0 wrote:
LOL...I thought you were....but had to make sure. ;D I've never seen a 40 lb bag of salt ;) I was thinking more like heavy lead or tools ;) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Gary On A Savage on 07/12/08 at 15:37:59 Honestly...everything! ;D 'Cause that's about what I have done...except the engine! I LOVE THE ENGINE! |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by serowbot on 07/12/08 at 16:38:50 The chrome belt guard does nothing for me. I took it off. Problem solved. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Jay on 07/12/08 at 22:07:58 Oh, definately the seat. How about an invisible cage protection forcefield? Car hits the forcefield and gets its fender crumpled, biker unharmed. ;D |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Duane on 07/12/08 at 22:15:29 Larger Tank, stiffer front forks, back light for my bike speedo for night rides. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by mick on 07/12/08 at 22:44:39 The big problem I see is spoke wheels and innertubes,so much better with cast wheels and tubless tires,last week was a case in point.I had a very small nail hole in my rear tire,took the wheel off and took it to town,there are three big tire outfits including "The Tire Factory" not one of them could do the job,in the end I did it myself,it would not have been so easy if it had happened a ways from home. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by BurnPgh on 07/12/08 at 22:52:03 why the hell couldnt they? It isnt hard really, just tedious. Wheel off, tire off, tube out, patch/replace tube, tube in, tire on, wheel on. Sounds like they were all just too freakin lazy. If they cant plug it they "can't" fix it. Seriously though...tubeless tires would be a blessing. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Jay on 07/12/08 at 23:31:55 1E292E320C3B345C0 wrote:
AMEN to that! |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/13/08 at 02:36:05 I'd like to move the rear shock mount as it gets in the way of the air filter. Clive W :) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Paladin. on 07/13/08 at 07:28:11 35313B332C303D3431353D21580 wrote:
Were these big tire outfits for automotive tires? Motorcycle wheels do not fit on the automobile tire changing machines. And, in my opinion, cast wheels are fugly. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Mr. Hyde on 07/13/08 at 10:49:08 Just for kicks I had planned to write a letter to Suzuki Corporate with my wish list for the 25th anniversay S40 in 2011 (hopefully it's still around). If you all don't mind I'll use some of the ideas in this post as there are some really good ones. PS: I for one don't want it any heavier. That's one of the reasons I went with a Savage. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Skid Mark on 07/13/08 at 11:09:13 I would like to see the spedo with a trip odometer up on the handle bars and the gas tank capacity increased. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by BOWDIER on 07/13/08 at 11:13:17 move the peed odometer up to the handle bars, I don't like to take my eyes off the road to look at it, don't care for a trip meter I fill up on the hundreds so I always know were I'm at. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by T Mack 1 on 07/13/08 at 11:39:14 1) a trip Odometer 2) A Fuel economy kit that has a rear sprocket with 1 or 2 less teeth and a speedo raito changer the would screw onto the tranny so the same speedo could be used. 3) a larger fuel tank, same maybe 3.5 gals 4) a taller 5th gear, may solve #2 5) Maybe an electronic speedo 6) A factory Tachometer |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by PhotoProf on 07/13/08 at 14:13:11 Right-on T Mack 1... would add: slightly wider handlebars or longer mirror stems, easier spark plug access, hinged seat, and engine protector bars that really did something other than provide a mount for foot pegs. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by YonuhAdisi on 07/13/08 at 14:41:43 I think the ONLY thing I would like Suzuki to change is put a fuel gauge on it. I'm too lazy to go by mileage ;) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by FreeSpirit on 07/13/08 at 15:00:54 6650514A577E5B564C563F0 wrote:
Yes, me also.Wouldnt that be nice!! ;) Going to check into the bicycle tripmeter,and see if that will help. Better than nothing. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by T Mack 1 on 07/13/08 at 15:15:45 5C6A6B706D44616C766C050 wrote:
Your right, if it had a fuel gauge on the left, opposite the fuel cap it would be nice. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 07/13/08 at 15:16:51 Trust me, Free Spirit. It will help. I never even look down at the factory speedo anymore, unless I'm driving at night. I use the computer exclusively. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Skid Mark on 07/13/08 at 19:50:48 Hey Free Spirit: The bike spedo works great and is real easy to install. There are all kinds of posts on the subject taht will sohow the way. It tool me maybe 2 hrs to figure out and do. The hardest part was waiting for the epoxy to set up |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/08 at 05:31:25 Tubeless tires, even if they stay with spokes.Rasslin a stiff walled, tight seated rubber do-nut off that wheel is just a huge pain. I had to build a bead breaker for this Dunlop to let go. It is so stiff, I think I could have ridden it flat. I would like a seat position that brings the feet under me enough that getting my butt outta the seat for a bump doesnt require that I do pull ups to haul myself up a couple inches. More ground clearance, so the pegs dont drag so easily. If they fix that stuff, Ill take care of the rest or live with it. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Starzuki on 07/14/08 at 14:18:33 Slightly larger frame would have to do it for me. I know that's a lot to ask for, but inches larger here and there would make for so much more comfortable position. 6'3" and 180lbs. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by prsavage on 07/15/08 at 01:23:05 Well they made an LS400 and an LS650 so I guess next in the progression would be an LS900. Sign me up for that baby. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/15/08 at 05:40:40 Rumor has it that Suzuki will be discontinuing the S40/50 Cruisers in the very near future (I hope not, but ...) ... and I am very curious as to what they will be replaced with (if anything ...)? The S40/Savage is near perfect as it is ... Suzuki Engineers could mine this website for some suggestions on "improvements" that could be implimented into the LS650v2! Bar mounted speedo with tripmeter (and resulting extra fuel capacity with the speedo hole removed from the tank) The cam chain adjuster mods that have been invented by Forum Members Fuel Injection Fork Brace |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by PhilM on 07/15/08 at 07:41:26 I'd love to have all the bolts etc replaced with higher quality ones. As I work on the bike I try to upgrade them as I go, but having good quality ones from the start would have saved me a lot of time, and frustration. I've had to drill quite a few out to get parts off for the first time. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by mornhm on 07/15/08 at 08:25:42 I'm coming at this from a different perspective. I changed MC's to get me everything that I wanted. What I've been trying to figure out is if there was one thing that was real a "deal breaker" when it came to the Savage. Overall I liked the Savage, but there were a lot of things that just didn't make it the perfect MC for me. The seat for me is a riding position thing. I went to a sportier riding position to solve the problem - can't really be done and leave the Savage a Savage. The instrumentation - nice to have, but not a deal breaker. Larger fuel tank - this is pretty close to being a deal breaker. All the solutions I saw were either way more difficult than getting another MC or dangerous. More horsepower - I guess this really was the deal breaker for me, it's just not possible to be comfortable riding on the roads that I ride, at the speeds that I ride on a stock Savage. Unfortunately if I fixed this on the Savage, then I'd be into the gas tank size, and if I fixed the gas tank size, then I'd need a more comfortable riding position :o :o The solution would have been to have more time to ride, and then I could have used the Savage enough for was it does best. :'( |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by sluggo on 07/15/08 at 14:01:49 i change the oil frequently.. that and the fuel havent' changed the air in the tires, still looking for a spec on that. i've got a truck at home that has 50 year old air in it. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by sockmonkeygirl on 07/15/08 at 16:24:52 I'll agree with whoever said they'd opt for a cleaned up rear fender. I removed my pillion seat today, and was sad at the unsightly mess underneath. :P |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/16/08 at 04:54:43 After reading all of these, I think my list just got a little bigger. I do like the idea of moving the speedo up to the bars to be able to enlarge the fuel tank a bit. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by sockmonkeygirl on 07/16/08 at 05:59:11 Oh, we can have a list? Where do I start?! Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking: (clean rear fender, and...) Speedometer higher up for better visibility Add an odometer Blinkers that turn off automatically And maybe they could do something about that oil leak....is that too much to ask? :o |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/16/08 at 06:43:24 Blinkers/turn signals. Always forget to turn them off. My wifes 08 Honda scooter has this really loud turn signal flasher/clicker thing that lets you know they are on. Maybe I could borrow her flasher/clicker..... lol |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by Todd Perry on 07/16/08 at 15:27:12 Quote:
There was recently a thread on that.... Take a look at: Turn signal alarm buzzer (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1215800337) Looks easy and better yet, cheap! Haven't done it myself yet, though. On the List of Things to Improve, though, for sure. Every time I reach down and turn them off manually, I feel about 85 years old (how many miles has THAT been on!) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by sockmonkeygirl on 07/16/08 at 16:39:47 When I started riding 18 years ago, I just got into the habit of routinely turning the blinkers off..whether they were on or not. Apparently old habits die hard, because with our scooters, and now with the motorcycles, I do the same thing. The Savage is a great ride, but it sure is stripped down. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/17/08 at 06:00:59 7A666A62646667626C706E607B65090 wrote:
EXACTLY what I love about it. It's simple. Old school. |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by sockmonkeygirl on 07/17/08 at 07:03:00 Quote:
Good point. :) |
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Title: Re: What is the one thing you would change on yur Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/08 at 07:47:42 I still remember the first time I saw one, in the dealership, looking at jetskis, just goofing, no intention of buying a thing. So physically small, not intimidating, with 650 CCs of "Get R Done" on hand. I Like clean, simple stuff. I wanted it. A few months later, I was throwing a wobbly leg over it, in their lot, getting ready to drive off.. Is it perfect? Nope, has several flaws, but dangitt... Ive had so much fun, cool little bike. |
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