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Message started by thoner7 on 07/07/08 at 14:41:01

Title: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by thoner7 on 07/07/08 at 14:41:01

I Just changed the oil on my "new" 87 Savage.  I used 10w-40, like it said right on the cap, but now there is a slight tick/knock when running the motor.  I didnt use a special "motorcycle" oil, just some castrol syntec blend I already had.  I didnt have the tick before and I am wondering if its the motor oil?  The motor died when riding for the first time since Ive had it as well, and was losing power/wanted to die out at lower RPM.  The oil level is right below the top line.  I noticed that the oil is already as black as it was when I changed it just 8 miles ago.  I didnt change the filter.

Also, Ive noticed that the pads rub the disc ever so slightly on my front brake, whats the easiest way to "widen the gap" between the pads.

Thanks

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by verslagen1 on 07/07/08 at 14:49:51

Not all cage oils are good for the savage, don't use the energy conserving oils at all or you'll booger up your clutch.  Some syn's are lighter than advertised.  and except for winter or very cold climates, I'd stick to 10w-50 weight oils, some have said 5w-50 is ok.

You'll never have clearance between your pads and disk, and a slight rub is fine.  If you get complete clearance, that means the time to stop will be even longer.

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/07/08 at 14:50:19

I don't know the specifics... But I've heard that because we have a wet clutch, using a motorcycle specific oil is best...

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by serowbot on 07/07/08 at 19:59:47

I use regular old auto 10w-40, not the fuel saving type.  Works fine for me.  17,000 miles no problems.  Most important is that you change it.  I do every 1500 to 2000 miles.
Castrol is a good brand name oil.

Brake pads are designed to be in contact with the disc all the time.  It's o.k.  Like Verslagen says.

As far as the engine tick, maybe you're hearing normal valve lash noise that had been suppressed by engine sludge before. ????
If it sounds like too much much, check the valve adjustment. A little ticking is o.k.

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 07/07/08 at 20:30:30

My valves never ticked until I adjusted them.  They were way too tight prior to that, unbeknownst to me.  The ticking worried me sick, so I rechecked them and they still ticked.

Then I rode it to Philipsburg.  I ran it within hearing of some real pros, and no one said "Hey dummy, you shouldn't tick like that."  That's when I quit worrying about it.  Turns out, you should worry more if you don't hear a little valve noise.

Who knew?

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by thoner7 on 07/08/08 at 09:41:11

Thanks a lot guys.  I was avoiding the bike for a couple days cause I didnt want to mess it up, but It sounds like itll be alright.  I have to get the inspection updated, so maybe Ill just have them give it a once over.

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by T Mack 1 on 07/08/08 at 10:06:05

Remember to check the oil level with the bike level or as close to level as you can.  Otherwise it will be overfilled and that can be messy.

As for which oil to use,  well, if you change oil and you find the clutch slipping, then change it again.   I spend the little bit more for the MC grade oil.  Wal-Mart has Mobil Syn MC oil for lowest prices I found.

As for the oil filter,  at the dealer the filters are around $4.  Since the engine is old school and very dependant on good oil,  it is very advisable to change the filter every time you change oil.   Trust me on this.... or maybe I should say trust the previous owner of my bike on this......

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by daweise1 on 07/08/08 at 12:17:43

Are you kidding me?????? Man, I went to Advance Auto, Anderson's General Store, and my local dealership for a oil filler.... Advance said "No, can't even order it..", Anderson's wanted $7 for a Fram filler, and the dealership wanted $10.50 for OEM.....  ;D

Bought K&N from eBay at 3 for $20 shipped to my house.....  

$4 oil fillers I wish.......

Getting ripped off in Ohio I guess :o

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by YonuhAdisi on 07/08/08 at 12:39:20

About 4 bucks is what I pay for oil filters at the local stealership as well.

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by BOWDIER on 07/08/08 at 12:58:51

I paid around $4 alos at the dealer ship, about the only thin I buy their.

Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by T Mack 1 on 07/08/08 at 14:16:18

My Stealership has a OEM parts finder tool on their website.  You can order online.  ;D ... but Ron Ayers has cheaper prices, just slower shipping....

Under oil pump:  Item #11
FILTER, ENGINE OIL
16510-37450   (replaces 16510-37440)  
$4.19

http://www.blackmanscycle.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?category=Motorcycles&make=Suzuki&year=1987&fveh=1884


Title: Re: Maintenance  Help - Oil and Brakes
Post by cornfuzed on 07/08/08 at 15:39:38


3D382E3C302A3C68590 wrote:
Are you kidding me?????? Man, I went to Advance Auto, Anderson's General Store, and my local dealership for a oil filler.... Advance said "No, can't even order it..", Anderson's wanted $7 for a Fram filler, and the dealership wanted $10.50 for OEM.....  ;D

Bought K&N from eBay at 3 for $20 shipped to my house.....  

$4 oil fillers I wish.......

Getting ripped off in Ohio I guess :o


http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/5703-0635.html?mv_pc=Froogle

Or if you get around Mt Vernon sometimes buddy... try here... I just picked up a filter there yesterday for $4 .36

http://www.mid-ohio.com/map_hours.asp

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