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Message started by Flemming from Denmark on 07/07/08 at 14:13:35

Title: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Flemming from Denmark on 07/07/08 at 14:13:35

Hi. Just bought a 1992 savage, and must say it’s a positive surprise. I’ve been riding Honda CB’s for many years now, but I already love the difference ;0)
There is a thing tricking me: The Savage is imported to Denmark from Germany and according to all documents it’s a bike with 27 HP an when I’m looking here and other places I almost only read about savages with 31 HP. Can see in German websites that there’s many 27 HP Savages for sale
Anyone who can tell me the difference? hy it's there? or better!! tell me how to find the last 4 HP? ;)
Forgive me my “Danish-English” :)
Flemming

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Charon on 07/07/08 at 14:35:07

Is it possible one set of specs is measuring "Crankshaft Horsepower" and the other "Rear Wheel Horsepower"? That difference is said to account for 10% - 15%. That could make the 4 HP difference.

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Flemming from Denmark on 07/07/08 at 14:48:42

I don't think so. Course on the German websites the 31 HP Bikes is also for sale. Maybe it's a German rule about the age of the rider an up to 27 HP or so. We has that kind ogf laws in Denmark to. I'm sure the 4 HP is hidden somwhere :) and I don't think they would rebuild the hole engine for that? Wish I could wite german, the Savage is very popular there, with several lagre forums, unfortunally wrote in german ( Could be Egnima for my sake ;D don't under stand a word :))

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Max_Morley on 07/07/08 at 15:01:29

This has been discussed recently and my recollection from Bert's old forum in Germany was, there is a (intake?) restrictor plate used to decrease the HP until you qualify for the higher rated license and the plate can be removed. Max

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Flemming from Denmark on 07/07/08 at 16:01:23

Thank you Max. Thought it was something like that. Must be possible to find that plate if I compare with a Clymer drawing and remove it if it's ment to be removed when the driver is old enough to ride a bike :).
If you have a link to the German site with this issue I would be pleased to see it, maybe my wife can translate it for me :).
Thanx for the quick anwers BTW - This is a great forum. Learned a lot about the Savage just sitting with my coffee and read the topics

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Max_Morley on 07/07/08 at 16:52:52

It is probably in the spigot or mounting flange at the head end of the intake tract. Should be something easy to verify during the TUV inspection there or on the road by the Poletzi during a traffic stop. Bert's forum is down as far as I know. <http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/> was the old address. This is the german version I think as it has "de" in the address. The Holland group is pretty active, maybe they can help. Search for them. Good luck, Max

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by thumperclone on 07/07/08 at 17:16:37

isnt there 400 savage in europe??

Title: Re: 27 / 31 HP Savages
Post by Flemming from Denmark on 07/07/08 at 17:31:17

If you mean a 400ccm Savage I haven't seen them-heard about them. The stamp on my cylinder says 652ccm (Or ist 653?) so mine is a standard. But after searching on dutch forums as Max sugested I found out that the 27HP has a plastic tube in the caburettor preventing it to open fully. Should be easy to remove he wrote, so I know what to do tomorrow :) Remember: The time is 02.30 in the nigth here so I'll find my bed now ;)