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Title: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by flcruzr on 06/29/08 at 17:27:25 Hello! I'm wondering if anyone can advise me where would be a good site to purchase a sissy bar for an s40? (Best Deals) ;) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/29/08 at 17:35:00 Did you check The Marketplace on this site? There seems to have been a flurry of sissy bar activity in there lately. I just walked in from the shed, where I was busy "altering" (read that: "demolishing") my extra sissy bar fender rails into something I hope will be beautiful upon completion. Wish I had checked here first. I might just have sold them instead. Do you just need the sissy bar, or the rails too? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by flcruzr on 06/29/08 at 17:45:15 Do you just need the sissy bar, or the rails too? [/quote] I guess I need all of the set up, does it come in different pieces??? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/29/08 at 18:10:56 Yeah. If you don't have the fender rails built to hold a sissy bar, you will need those. It might come as a kit, but if not, make sure you get those as well. It would be a bummer to order a new toy and then not be able to play with it when it comes. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 06/30/08 at 06:10:32 I just found a member on the board who wanted regular, non-sissybar rails. We worked out a deal to swap his rails and sissybar for my rails and $$... The rails that hold the sissybar have an extra "piece" on the top that holds the sissybar in place. The rails mount the same as the current rails on your bike. Before I found this member... I was going to order from www.babbittsonline.com - They had the best price I could find anywhere on the net. I actually ordered my saddlebag brackets from them. The only thing I've heard about them is they take awhile to ship. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by aebooze on 06/30/08 at 06:23:27 You should check on ebay. I just got a set of rails and a sissy bar for mine for a total of about $50. Now I just have to make them fit because they're off a '96 savage and I have an '07 s40. I guess the savage had a little wider back fender? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 06/30/08 at 06:47:52 585C5B5656435C390 wrote:
pretty sure its identicle. should bolt right on. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Jonny_Chicago on 06/30/08 at 07:18:45 I might have one for sale if the buyer does not pay. PM and I will let you know. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 06/30/08 at 08:32:31 I agree with Dills, pretty sure there were no changes between the years, even with the name change in 05... I'll see in about 2 days I guess. :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 06/30/08 at 08:47:40 Here's one on EBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/650-SUZUKI-SAVAGE-REAR-PASSENGER-SISSY-BAR-WITH-PAD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10066QQihZ018QQitemZ280240242495QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by flcruzr on 06/30/08 at 17:48:41 thanks everyone, for your feedback! |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by PhilM on 07/01/08 at 03:25:15 7C787F727267781D0 wrote:
Are you finding the '96 setup is wider than your '07, ie a loose fit? It should be identical I think. Usually the problem is that people find the assembly a tight fit. What works for me is to pre-assemble everything loosely (including the 2 vertical bolts on the underneath of the sissy-bar) and then slide the whole thing down over the fender. You need to be v careful & cover/protect paintwork. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by ALfromN.H. on 07/01/08 at 04:40:52 [quote]You need to be v careful & cover/protect paintwork.[/quote The first time I took my side rails off, they came off easily but going back on was a little harder. I was trying to line up one side and the other side was scratching the heck out of my fender. So be very careful. I'm looking at a possible paint job next winter. AL |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/01/08 at 06:04:28 102A2E2C2D1736252504363A430 wrote:
I bought a set of used rails recently and they are about an inch too long. The front two mounting holes line up. The hole for the turn signal and the over-all length is off by a good inch. I don't feel like drilling holes in my new 07 S40. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by PhilM on 07/01/08 at 06:33:43 6A3D3F2C3C3D312C283F372C5E0 wrote:
I bought a set of used rails recently and they are about an inch too long. The front two mounting holes line up. The hole for the turn signal and the over-all length is off by a good inch. I don't feel like drilling holes in my new 07 S40. [/quote] You're right. This pic shows the differences. The turn signal mount is much closer to the helmet lock on the S40. There isn't a hole through the fender directly behind the turn signal on the savage. The red star shows the location of the hole that is there, where a bolt goes through the fender into the the sissy bar "leg". The white star shows where the other hole in the Savage fender is, where the rail is bolted on. Not sure if that lines up with the S40 rail hole. Hope that makes sense :-? http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/23179/1214923883/railsoldandnew3.jpg |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 06:44:25 looks like ill be drilling! i just got a set of rails off of an S40 for my savage. it seems like they should line up? very weird. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 06:47:59 Do the blinkers fit in both rails? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/01/08 at 07:26:11 Thanks for the varify Phil. :) Anyone want some used rails??? :-X |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 07:39:11 they look indenticle on the fiche parts finder? very strange. http://www.dillonpic.com/post/mybike/fenders.JPG |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 09:13:48 Awkward... dills and I swapped rails. I'm getting his with the sissybar and he's getting mine without. It looks like it'll be more of a problem from someone with a Savage going to the S40 rails than my S40 going to Savage rails, just because of where the sissybar hole is in the fender on the Savage. It looks like the S40 rails may not be high enough to cover that hole or the holes for the turn signals? dills - I'll take a picture of my fender when I get home for lunch so you can get an idea of where the holes are for the stock S40 fender... Could you do the same with your Savage, just to get an idea with the rails REMOVED? Thanks. :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 09:24:30 And now... I'm going ask about the saddlebag brackets! Are they different from the Savage to the S40? Because I just ordered a set of them (last week)... I'm sure that I'll be able to make them work one way or another... But it'll be interesting to see how that works out too. Where do they mount on the Savage? The rear front bolt and the sissybar bolt? And on the S40, so the mount to the 2 most rear bolts (which is still really close to the front)? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 09:48:30 According to this OLD thread: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1128806153 you don't need to do any drilling. but you will need to buy new bolts because the S40 rails are thicker. Can anyone verify this? :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/01/08 at 09:59:23 The Savage sissy bar sides next to my 07 S40. Front two bolt holes line up, rear/turn signal light is obviously way off. The helmet lock also lines up fine as you can see. Unless the sissy bar side rails I have are off a different bike. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j233/4carbcorvair/S40%20bike/S40Bike.jpg |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 10:03:01 1047455646474B5652454D56240 wrote:
but the turn signal is only on the rail... not in the fender? so having it move wouldnt change anything. also, the helmet lock is on the rail and not the fender. just as long as the mounting bolts to the fender are the same... should be ok. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/01/08 at 10:09:03 7A7772726D262A1E0 wrote:
but the turn signal is only on the rail... not in the fender? so having it move wouldnt change anything. also, the helmet lock is on the rail and not the fender. just as long as the mounting bolts to the fender are the same... should be ok.[/quote] Part of the turn signal or some sort of stud goes directly through the fender. It is very obviously felt on the inside. If this is the case, another hole would have to be drilled for the stud to go through. Yes, I was using the helmet lock as reference to compare the two rails. The front bolt holes and helmet lock line up perfectly. :) By looking at my bike, a new hole will have to be drilled if I want to install these. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 10:10:42 Here's a shot of my fender without the rails too: http://www.pimptiva.com/S40_Fender.JPG There is a hole in the back, but there is where the wiring for the turn signal was put through. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes tomorrow when I get the rails in. It makes sense to have the bolt in the rear with the sissybar, because of the extra force put on that area with someone leaning back on it. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 10:17:30 To me... It looks like we'll have to enlarge the hole that the turn signal wire went thorough on the S40, and possibly drill 1 hole for the wiring to go through now. I'm not too worried about it... Having the sissy bar for the price I got it for? Well worth having to drill a hole or so. :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 10:19:25 2E797B68787975686C7B73681A0 wrote:
but the turn signal is only on the rail... not in the fender? so having it move wouldnt change anything. also, the helmet lock is on the rail and not the fender. just as long as the mounting bolts to the fender are the same... should be ok.[/quote] Part of the turn signal or some sort of stud goes directly through the fender. It is very obviously felt on the inside. If this is the case, another hole would have to be drilled for the stud to go through. Yes, I was using the helmet lock as reference to compare the two rails. The front bolt holes and helmet lock line up perfectly. :) By looking at my bike, a new hole will have to be drilled if I want to install these. [/quote] the turn signals on my savage dont touch the fender at all. they mount to the rails and the wire runs inside of the rail up to the seat. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 10:21:45 1B212527261C3D2E2E0F3D31480 wrote:
just by eyeballing it looks like the same bolt pattern except for the turn signal. do your turn signal wires go through the fender? mine dont. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/01/08 at 10:27:57 My wires do not go through the fender. There is a definate stud of some sort either off of the turn signal or side bar that goes through the fender. I would have to say it's part of the turn signal without taking everything apart. I don't know what else to tell ya unless I have some sort of oddball bike. :shrug: My eyes, fingers and camera all seem to agree. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 10:31:21 Oh, oh oh... You're RIGHT! The turn signal wire goes through the big hole there. That little stud that goes through the back hole from my picture. I don't think it does anything exactly though, except maybe help line up the rail to the other bolts. DO me a favor and take a shot of the back of the Savage (sissybar) rails) - That may help. http://www.pimptiva.com/S40_Rails.JPG There is a shot of the rails that I sent to dills. You can see the holes for the turn signal are back there like they should be... I should've turned one over for a rear shot I guess... |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Mr. Hyde on 07/01/08 at 10:32:29 Regarding the saddlebag supports - they are different from the Savage to the S40. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 10:32:32 3661637060616D7074636B70020 wrote:
It's not part of the turn signal... You'll see that when you pull them off. I think you're golden to take off your factory S40 rails and try mounting the other set. If you don't want to... Then I'll post how I do it tomorrow when my rails come in. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 10:45:29 heres a 2000 savage i found on bikepics.com the pattern looks exactly the same as the S40 by eye. http://www.dillonpic.com/post/mybike/savagepattern.jpg |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 11:27:15 070A0F0F105B57630 wrote:
Is that image reversed? The exhaust and drum bracket looks to be on the left side... Overseas model possibly?! :-P |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/01/08 at 11:33:16 03393D3F3E04253636172529500 wrote:
Is that image reversed? The exhaust and drum bracket looks to be on the left side... Overseas model possibly?! :-P[/quote] i mirrored it to compare it to your fender easier.. haha |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Bear_Rider on 07/01/08 at 13:45:45 454F4051565951230 wrote:
I have a complete set that I will be getting rid of shortly. I'm in the midst of putting hard side and top cases on my Savage, and will not have any use for the Sissy Bar. Send me a PM if you're interested. I'm putting Pelican 1500 cases on the sides, and a Storm iM2720 on top. The cases just arrived about an hour ago. I've already found that the top case will hold my modular helmet, jacket, and pants, with a little more room if I need it. The side cases are big enough to hold tools and enough clothing for a trip of several days duration. The combination of yellow cases and black bike should stand out. This winter, I hope to make alterations that will allow me to attach and detach the bags quickly, but for this first trip, they will be bolted on. Pictures later, in another thread. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by flcruzr on 07/01/08 at 14:51:41 When ordering the sissy bar, does it come with the rails to mount it, or are the rails sold seperate? |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/01/08 at 14:54:28 I'm pretty sure it's sold as a set. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by PhilM on 07/01/08 at 23:50:12 5403011202030F1216010912600 wrote:
What you can feel is a bolt that goes through just above the turn signal position and bolts into the leg of the sissy-bar. See the "red star" on my previous pic. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/02/08 at 05:51:40 Phil - Not on the S40 rails... There is no bolt in the back of our rails, just a little "stub" that sticks into an open hole. As I stated, its almost like an adjustment piece that helps keep the bar in place. Granted - from what has been stated, we should be able to use that particular hole for the Savage rails with the sissybar. I'll be able to confirm, as soon as UPS brings my package today. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by PhilM on 07/02/08 at 09:23:32 Sorry simon - I get a little confused these days! I thought you meant on the Savage rails I think I need to go and ride some to clear my head.. ;D |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/02/08 at 09:25:29 No, that's alright... 4carb was talking about his stock S40 rails on the bike... I was trying to clarify that point. The UPS man should be dropping my box off shortly. He's usually there around 12:30 or so. Probably won't have time over lunch to get it finished up though, especially if I need to run for shorter bolts! I'll try to snap pics of it though once I'm there and may try a quick "test fit" just to see... :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/02/08 at 10:42:07 OK... The results are in! The box with my rails and sissybar came in today while I was home for lunch and I was able to snap a few pictures. It looks like I will be able to mount the sissybar on my Savage, without drilling any new holes. The two front bolts from the S40 are way too long for the Savage rails, by at least a good 1/2" or so... Here are some pictures (although crappy), so you can get an idea: http://www.pimptiva.com/DSCN4790.JPG Here is the stock S40 fender and the Savage rails http://www.pimptiva.com/DSCN4791.JPG Here's the back side of the rail, notice there are 3 holes there, the front 2 use the bolt and nut, the 3rd one back uses just the bolt - all of which came off the S40. http://www.pimptiva.com/DSCN4793.JPG Here is a side shot of the sissybar. There are 2 holes in the rails of the bar that will need to have bolts put in them. THe bottom of those holes lines up with the hole in the rear of the fender - this is the same spot on the S40 rail that was a little "nipple" that stuck in - as I've stated, almost like a placeholder. The top bolt sticks out at the top of the fender, as seen below. http://www.pimptiva.com/DSCN4792.JPG Sooo... It looks like it will work, without drilling ANY new holes. Also, the stock S40 turn signals do fit on the Savage rails. I know one of the old threads that was linked said the differences were having the screws flush mounted (Savage) or mounted on the top (S40) - The signals fit in and the screws fit and hold it just fine. I need to hit the hardware store after work today to get a couple shorter bolts, but it'll be going on as soon as I'm back from that. Work can't be over soon enough! :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/02/08 at 11:15:09 the rails that SimonTuffGuy sent me from his S40 also fit on my savage 100% perfect. I just need to buy longer bolts by about 1/4" No drilling required... horray. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/02/08 at 15:03:53 Than I would have to say the bars that I got from YonuhAdisi, that are supposed to be s40/Savage side rails are NOT for an S40/Savage. Anyone want some rails for a bike that I don't know what they fit? ;D |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by dills84 on 07/02/08 at 15:44:02 heres the S40 rails mounted to my savage. All i needed was longer screws. http://www.dillonpic.com/post/mybike/IMAGE_105.jpg |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by YonuhAdisi on 07/02/08 at 16:48:33 0750524151505C4145525A41330 wrote:
They were off of a Savage, because I took them off of it myself. I don't know the year model, but it was definitely a Savage. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/02/08 at 18:47:27 :) My bike must have been made on a friday just before shut-down for the weekend. ;D |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/02/08 at 19:22:54 4carb- Have you TRIED mounting them? I got mine fit this evening, with the help of slightly longer bolts. Anyone have their passenger complain about the vibration of the bar? I don't know if there was supposed to be some sort of washer or rubber piece on the bottom bolt of the bar (the one that meets the fender) - When I tightened those bolts on each side, it seemed like the fender pulled "out" a bit to meet the bar. If there should be some sort of spacer in there, I may have to work something up. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by aebooze on 07/03/08 at 05:21:22 Simon, when you put the savage rails on your s40 did you end up with a gap between the rails and the fender? On mine it seems like I need to make some spacers to get a snugger fit. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/03/08 at 06:11:27 The only spot that had a gap was the rear, bottom bolt on the sissybar leg. That's what I had mentioned above... If there was supposed to be some sort of spacer or rubber piece to help keep vibrations down. The front 3 bolts though? Those all looked fine. edit - Actually... There IS a gap between the rail and fender. But I think it is supposed to be like that (compared vs. the S40 rails) - It looks like the holes themselves have a bit of a "lip" on them. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by PhilM on 07/03/08 at 07:02:52 744E4A48497352414160525E270 wrote:
Correct, on the Savage the holes/tubes for the bolts extend about 1/8" behind the rail, holding it all clear of the fender. (The turn signal cable goes through the gap at the front) The rear mounting point (bolt through fender into sissy-bar leg) is designed to hold the rail clear of the fender as well. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/03/08 at 15:22:44 Hmm... Sounds like I'm going to hitup the parts store and find a rubber washer of some sort to clear the fender from the rail. :-P Thanks. :) |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Ian on 07/05/08 at 07:23:38 605F03655449482D0 wrote:
not sure sure about that. got some OEM saddlebag brackets and the package is marked for LS650/S40. put them on my daughter's 1995. the forward bolts needed 1/4" removed with a hacksaw - too long for the acorn nuts. so maybe something is thicker in the fender or rail in later years but the brackets appear to be the same. nice fit BTW. |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by Jay on 07/05/08 at 18:05:42 1A202426271D3C2F2F0E3C30490 wrote:
Try ACE Hardware. I've been able to find a wide assorment of rubber washers in various sizes for different projects over the years. Ride safe, Jay |
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Title: Re: Sissy Bar Purchase Post by casper on 11/15/08 at 18:33:54 I just bought a '05 S40 and looking for a sissy bar with luggage rack. Anyone know where I can get a good deal? Suzuki has one for $175.00 but surely I can find one cheaper. Any suggestions? :-/ |
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