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Message started by Paladin. on 06/28/08 at 18:58:11

Title: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 06/28/08 at 18:58:11

Ultima "High Noon" 13" wide leather saddle:
http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer20.jpg
Front mount fabricated from 1" x 1/8" bar stock, one piece bent into a squared 1.75" wide U and welded to a flat piece to bolt to the stock tank/front seat mount.  Rear is a bent and twisted 1" x 1/8" bar -- originally was upright which put the seat too high, reversed it still bolts to the rear driver seat mounts, supports a pair of angle irons that hold the bottom of the springs:
http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer21.jpg

Quite the tush cush.  The night of July 18th is just past the Full Moon, will have to go make another run thru the Mojave to see how it does on a longer ride.

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/28/08 at 19:05:23

Oh you got it on already! Looks great and so comfortable!!

Where did you get it?

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Jay on 06/28/08 at 19:41:11

Yeah, I want to know where you got it too. It looks fantastic! Hope it's as comfortable as it looks.
Ride safe,
Jay

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 06/28/08 at 20:10:05

I got it from Santa Claus.  Santa got it from http://www.jirehcycles.com, along with the pair of 3" springs.  (click on harley aftermarket parts, not Metric.  Get the free catalog, it's 8" x 11" x 1.75" )  Ultima "High Noon" saddles are black or brown leather, or black plastic, either 9" or 13" wide -- $50 or less.

At 13" and fairly flat across the supporting surface is considerably larger, which translates to lower psi.  Need to fit something in the space below the seat, maybe a leather tool kit.....  

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Jay on 06/28/08 at 22:24:22

Thanks Paladin. Can't beat the price, and it looks SWEEEET! Hope it's way comfy.
A tool bag would fit nicely under there, and look good too.
Great job!
Ride safe,
Jay

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Keith_T on 06/28/08 at 23:25:47

Let us know how comfortable it is for you.  What was your old seat and how was it for you?

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Robertomoe on 06/29/08 at 00:01:53

oooh, tricksy!

I want to plump myself down on that and give it a try

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/29/08 at 00:13:25

That does look pretty comfortable.  Just don't hit a big bump, bounce up onto the tank, and crush your 8888888888 ;D

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/29/08 at 06:36:42

Have you ridden much with the new seat on?

Let us know how it is! From scale of 1-10 on the comfort level.

It makes your bike look different. So Cool,almost like a different bike.

Or you just got a really good angle on the pic  :-/ ;)

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 06/29/08 at 08:28:02


38363A273B362127530 wrote:
Let us know how comfortable it is for you.  What was your old seat and how was it for you?

The old seat was the stock seat.  Everyone is different, some complain of more than a half hour in the saddle.  Me, the bike fit fine.

Had the GEEIA reunion coming up and I wondered about riding the bike that far.  To check out how I do on long trips I got off work on a Friday, took a nap, rode 140 miles out to Joshua Tree National Park, 56 miles accross the park, and 160 miles back home.  Learned that I didn't get too sore.  And rather surprising, I didn't get tired!  For me, while driving a car long periods of time gets boring/tired -- riding the same route does not.  It is not boring on a bike.

Also have an itch to do an Iron Butt run.  I know I'm crazy, most others know I'm crazy, but it would be nice to be CERTIFIED Crazy.

So, last September I hopped on the bike and rode 570 miles to Holbrook AZ, then 510 miles to Amarillo, and finally 250 miles to Oklahoma CIty for the GEEIA reunion (http://www.geeia.org/reunion/)(arriving about 1 pm.)  Called number one daughter in Jonesboro AR and told her that the visit to her after the reunion was off.  Jonesboro is only a day east of OKC, but to get home in time for my anniversary would necessitate a BB1500 from Jonesboro to Needles -- and it wasn't about to happen on the stock saddle.  Instead I took mostly US60/CA62 going back, holding to about 300 miles a day.  And even then once I got home I put the bike in the garage and didn't even look at it for two days.

Needed a better Saddle.
Option: a Bill Mayer Saddle (http://billmayersaddles.com/).  Only $559 for leather.
Option: a springer seat meant for a Harley.  Only $49.95.  TOUGH CHOICE.

Mounted the Saddle, a bit high and back, excelent for those 6' plus but notquite right for me.  Did a 20 mile runs, lost a nut (from the saddle mount - get your mind out of the gutter!) remounted the saddle almost to the stock position -- using nylock nuts.  Haven't ridden it far -- gas is $0.10 a mile and I don't ride just to ride -- but the initial feeling is that the flat width is FAR more comfortable.  At least for me.  As I said, everyone is different, which is why I was interested in a Bill Mayer saddle  -- they want pictures of your butt on your bike so they can make the saddle to fit inbetween.

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 06/29/08 at 08:29:38


556865627573686A6862070 wrote:
oooh, tricksy!

I want to plump myself down on that and give it a try
You know where I live -- I gave you the address so you could pick up the muffler.  Just give me a little warning so I'll be home.  These people would benefit from a second opinion.

Title: Final Form
Post by Paladin. on 07/06/08 at 14:48:55

http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer31.jpg http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer32.jpg
Top view . . . . side view
http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer33.jpg http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer34.jpg

Piece A of the rear mount was the first attempt, except it was bolted down with the cross part horizonal instead of vertical, which mounted the seat springs about three inches up and back of the current location.  Great for the wife's 36" inseam, not for me.  Piece(s) B was just a short length of angle I had kicking around.  All the nuts are NyLocks -- have the nylon thread grabber so they won't vibrate off.

The front mount started about four inches tall, is now 1.75" centerline of the crossbolt to the underside of the mount.  Simply 3/4" and 1" wide 1/8" barstock, bent, drilled and welded together.

Comfort?  Give the stock saddle about a 5 -- I've been on much worse, such as my TLR-200 -- I'll initally rate this saddle a 7.5.  The true test will be when I do another 500 mile run

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by SavageGreaseMonkey13 on 07/06/08 at 15:52:02

looks much better. i would like to try a seat like that but solid mounted. do you have any full bike side shots?

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Jonny_Chicago on 07/06/08 at 20:46:52

Looks great!

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by sluggo on 07/06/08 at 21:30:47

a piece of sheet metal will cover up the wires for appearance.


just goes to show..  buy something, go figgure out how to mount it. and ride ride ride..

it took me several attempts before i got mine mounted the way i like it.  thats hard mounted on back and sprung on front.  it sits lower in the curve.  

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Robertomoe on 07/18/08 at 17:33:06


54656865606D6A040 wrote:
[quote author=556865627573686A6862070 link=1214704691/0#6 date=1214722913]oooh, tricksy!

I want to plump myself down on that and give it a try
You know where I live -- I gave you the address so you could pick up the muffler.  Just give me a little warning so I'll be home.  These people would benefit from a second opinion.
[/quote]

Sounds like a plan.  You can try out my HD NightRod seat.  Im expecting to sit on your bike and want to ride away with it.  the seat looks so comfy.

Title: Re: Final Form
Post by Paladin. on 07/19/08 at 20:20:34


636D60626A72696464713332010 wrote:
Hey I'm fixin to do this mod to.Where do you get the mount plate to mount the springs?Does the stock mount fit the front part of the seat or do I have to modify it?

(from an IM)
http://savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer33.jpg http://savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer34.jpg
What I wanted to, and did, was avoid any modifications to either the bike or the seat.

Part A is 1" x 1/8" bar stock from Lowes Hardware, two slightly more than 90 degree bends to fit the stock seat mounts.  Square didn't quite work, so I grabbed the short tabs with a pair of ChannelLocks and added a slight twist so that the bar fit within a 1/16".

Originally that was the sum total of the rear mount, with the cross part of the bar horizonal instead of the pictured vertical, with the seat springs bolted to that bar.  The original front mount was 4" tall.  That setup positioned the seat up and back about 2 1/2- 3 inches.  Wendy with her 36" inseam liked it, I didn't.

Plan B involved swapping the rear mount left/right and rotating 90 degrees, bolted up just the same as before.Found some 2" angle iron, sliced a couple of short pieces, drilled a few holes, made the pictured spring perches.  The six bolts connecting part A are all 1/4", the bolts connecting the springs are 5/16", all with NyLock nuts.

The front mount is simply another piece of that 1" x 1/8" barstock drilled to match the stock front mount.   The upright U is more barstock torch-bent over a 1.5" thick concrete stepping stone and welded to the bottom piece.  A 5/16" bolt serves as the pivot, a 1.5" spacer keeps things centered, and the use of a pair of nuts jammed together leaves the front of the seat free to pivot.  Final version has the centerline of the pivot bolt 1.75" above the bottom of the mount.  I ran out of the 1" so I used some 3/4" barstock I happened to have around.

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Robertomoe on 07/21/08 at 17:42:13

how about a second one for a pillion?

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Ural-RetroSoloa.jpg

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 07/21/08 at 18:21:07

I had also thought about that, it shouldn't be too hard to fabricate mounts.  However, my sig line still prevails -- the screaming from the passengers disturbs the ride.

But I did come across a picture of the original too high orientation of the rear seat mount:
http://savageriders.com/paladin/images/springer11.jpg

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Bear_Rider on 09/13/08 at 18:31:57

Paladin,

If I understand correctly, the seat came with all the attachment points and all you had to do was fabricate a u-bracket for the front and a lower spring mount at the rear, then provide the nuts, bolts, and the 3" springs? It was really that straightforward?

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Paladin. on 09/13/08 at 20:27:23

Just about.  Big thing was several mounting variations to get the seat in the perfect position.  The front mount shrunk from 4" to under 2".

Title: Re: Springer Seat
Post by Tincanman on 09/14/08 at 19:36:01

Got mine off ebay for 35bones and I LOVE IT.

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1414173/

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