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Message started by dex3703 on 06/22/08 at 18:14:37

Title: bike won't start
Post by dex3703 on 06/22/08 at 18:14:37

Hi,

I'm the guy with all the problems after having to take the stator cover off while adjusting the valves. I finally have it all back together and it seems to be installed properly--everything turns just fine.

Now the problem is bike still won't start. It cranks a couple times strongly and then slower, slower, stops. The battery is new and I've been charging it, but the bike won't turn over strongly enough. I'm afraid to leave it on the charger for long periods so just have it on the 2A setting for 2-3 hours a night before I go to bed.

Is there something else I'm missing?

Oh, and problem last time it wouldn't turn at all was the upper right bolts on the stator cover being tightened too much. I guess that's why the gasket comes with that grey sealer up there. Would be nice if the manual said something about tightening that less.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/22/08 at 18:20:18

This has been a lengthy problem for you... Did you prime the carb before you tried starting? It may have dried up in this amount of time. I don't know why your battery doesn't seem to be putting out. It hasn't dried up too, has it? Perhaps check the electrolyte level. I have seen it written here that the battery might turn the engine, but not have enough snort to make a spark if it is low. Do you have a volt meter?

When you finally get this thing going, you deserve a medal for perseverance.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by dex3703 on 06/22/08 at 18:31:12

I don't have the tank on as I didn't want to take it all off if I did the valves wrong. I read an article here that said it would probably run long enough off the bowl to check. Will the bike run w/o the tank on, or does it have to be hooked up? It last started probably 4 months ago.

When I last tested it with the voltmeter cold before trying to charge it it was 11.5 volts. Thus the charger. If I set the charger to 10A it almost immediately goes to charged; if I put it on 2A it just charges indefinitely. Fluid is fine, and like I said it's a new battery.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by verslagen1 on 06/22/08 at 18:42:30

What kind of battery? maitenance free or thirsty?
why are you afraid of charging? most batteries require 24 hour charge.
yes if the battery is that run down that is slows down after a bit then it don't have the poop to spark too.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/22/08 at 18:51:11

I would think if you've had the tank off for four months, the carb is probably dry. Thats a long time with all those hoses pulled off the carb.

I think I'd go ahead and install the tank. It only takes a few minutes, and it might save you a bundle of time. Charge the battery up good, set your petcock to "pri" for 30 seconds or so, then try starting it.

Alternatively, you could fill the bowl with a tiny funnel or something. Or have an assistant hold the tank and just hook up the fuel line to fill it and get it running. The straight answer to your question is yes. It will run without the tank, but only if there is still fuel in the carburetor.

I had mine off today to check the valves again. It ran just fine without the tank for the five seconds or so I needed to hear it.

Seems like the battery should put out 13.5-15 volts when fully charged. I suppose that depends some on what kind it is. Mine generally reads 14 or so.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by dex3703 on 06/22/08 at 21:19:01

The battery is the normal kind that takes water. The levels are all good. I guess I"m afraid of leaving it on while I sleep or am gone--afraid of fire, I guess.

My wife will be home the next couple of days, so I'll have her leave it on while she's here. I'll put the tank back on and try it next weekend.

THanks!

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by Charon on 06/22/08 at 21:34:25

If the tank is off, you also have an open vacuum line - the one that goes to the fuel valve. That will give an air leak into the manifold, and might make it reluctant to run.

Seems to me the battery is about a 14 amp-hour one. At 2 amps, it could take anywhere up to eight or ten hours to charge, if it is really dead. Most chargers taper off the charge as the battery approaches full charge, so you most likely won't hurt it if you leave it overnight.

Title: Re: bike won't start
Post by mick on 06/23/08 at 00:02:55

I leave my battery on charge all winter long.I should say a battery tender,It is a cheap battery "Champion" that I got at wal-mart for $20,
I got it three years ago and works just fine.
Put the tank on ,hook up fuel lines,full choke and it will fire.
Remember this is a very simple one cylinder engine,it needs two things,
A spark,and gas,if one is missing it won't go.
(You cant not Think)