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Message started by Keith55 on 06/21/08 at 15:06:29

Title: Oil
Post by Keith55 on 06/21/08 at 15:06:29

Just wondering what brand of oil most are useing. Is pinzoil 5w 30 OK

Title: Re: Oil
Post by bill67 on 06/21/08 at 15:09:44

Motorcycle oil and a lease 10w 40w I use 20w 50w.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Keith55 on 06/21/08 at 15:17:43

can I get MC oil at walmart? is it better than just plain oil for cars?thats all we use to use. and can anyone tell me what seafoam is and what it is for?

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Dj12midnit on 06/21/08 at 15:19:57

I am using mobil 1 15w50 as for seafoam see the seafoam thread.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Keith55 on 06/21/08 at 15:21:41

thanks someone just sent me the seafoam info.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by verslagen1 on 06/21/08 at 15:28:14

If you can't find motorcycle oil at wallyworld, rotella 15-40 diesel oil is good.
Next is mobil 1 20-50 sin

Title: Re: Oil
Post by barry68v10 on 06/21/08 at 16:00:34

Amsoil 10-40

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Jay on 06/21/08 at 22:06:30

Kieth55,
There are plenty of discussions in this forum on oil. Use the search feature, and you'll get more information than you would probably want. As for auto oil, IF you use it, make sure it DOES NOT have the EC (energy conserving) stamp on it. This will usually be on the back of the bottle. If memory serves me right, it contains friction modifiers that our Savages won't like at all. I really didn't bother to memorize all the why. I just filed "EC bad, real bad! No EC." in my wee little brain. :)
Ride safe,
Jay

Title: Re: Oil
Post by BurnPgh on 06/21/08 at 22:51:34

I use cheapo Autozone 10-40 and change frequently. 1k-1.5k miles between changes. My next change will be to Mobil 1 20-50 synth just out of curiosity.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by mick on 06/22/08 at 00:06:26

I use "Castrol Activo" 10-40 I change mine every 500 miles,I know it's way to often but I treat my bike like my dog,the two things I love over all others,and they both repay me in very low maintainance costs,less than $20 for a oil and filter change is very cheap insurance.
My dog "that's God spelled backwards" eats only the best food available,and she goes in for regular checkups.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Rustbucket on 06/22/08 at 01:04:51

I'm going with what the parts dude at the Suzuki place suggested, 20w/50 OEM Suzuki oil for summer and 10/w40 OEM for when its cooler out.
I told him i didn't care about price and asked which is best to use, the synthetic or dino.. He kinda recommended against the synthetic on his shelf.
Some people here like the synth, some use dino oil.. Theirs lots of opinions on oil around here..

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Dj12midnit on 06/22/08 at 01:21:25

I see it like this I will never ride When it is -20 so there is no need to us 10W 40.

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Post by Starlifter on 06/22/08 at 07:38:27

No one has ever heard of seafoam around here. I use Mystery Oil.
Seems to be about the same stuff as Seafoam.
...edit, oops, this post is suppose to be in the seafoam thread.

I use 10W40 full synthic year round. (It's cooler in Michigan.)

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/22/08 at 07:59:22

745346554B4E41534255270 wrote:

...edit, oops, this post is suppose to be in the seafoam thread.

LOL. I hate when that happens. Especially when I'm 7 paragraphs into something before I realize it.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by 4carbcorvair on 06/22/08 at 08:12:00

This has been gone over many times on Corvair forums, as Corvairs are older cars with air cooled engines with flat tappet lifters. Motocycle oils or oils designed for Diesel trucks are best. Regular automotive oil with the energy conserving lable do NOT have enough ZDDP, Zinc. The Zinc provided a lubricant for cams and lifters. Most newer cars are roller lifter/cam and do not require the zinc. The lack of Zinc is starting to make it's face known in the classic car world. For the amount of oil required for our bikes, 2qts, spend the money and get oil designed for them. The owners manual also states 10w40 or 50. The below picture is the cam and lifters from my Corvair. Is the damage going to happen imediately? Doubt it. However, over time, it will show it self.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j233/4carbcorvair/66Corsa135.jpg

Title: Re: Oil
Post by rpgpgmr on 06/22/08 at 09:17:05

Mobil 1 15W-50. Trust me on this.

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Post by Jonny_Chicago on 06/22/08 at 16:33:20

20W-50, especially in the single cylinder and during the hot summers. Thicker oils better. Also I use honda oil (honda, suzuki, and yamaha all relatively the same oil).

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Oldfeller on 06/23/08 at 03:34:22

4carbcorvair,

My my, four carbs, could that be a 140 hp Spyder you got there?

My very first car was a 2 carb 110hp Monza which I ran until the harmonic stabilizer built into the flywheel gave up and my wife talked me into getting rid of it. (she learned how to push that car to a slow trot so I could jump start it and she HATED it with a passion as it blew smoke from leaking pushrod seals, etc) That was over 100,000 miles, which for a Corvair was thought to be pretty good mileage at the time.

Now me, that first relationship with a car taught me a lot about maintenance and repair. I still think fondly about the old car.

How did you guys finally whip the pushrod seal issues?

Oldfeller

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Post by T Mack 1 on 06/23/08 at 04:28:17

Wally world here in PA has MC oil. I got Mobil 1 MC oil there. Best price in town for it. Look where they sell the helmets.

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Post by buttgoat1 on 07/13/08 at 20:14:20

I switche dto the Mobil 1, but now I notice that the usage is higher. A friend also told me that his Honda used more sythetic vs conventional. Has anyone else noticed this?

Title: Re: Oil
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/13/08 at 21:28:38

Rotella T 15-40 walmart, about $9.00 a gallon. Cheap enough to burn some & not cry, good enough to keep the engine alive.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 07/14/08 at 18:09:43

786F7C696F686F7C630E0 wrote:

I switche dto the Mobil 1, but now I notice that the usage is higher. A friend also told me that his Honda used more sythetic vs conventional. Has anyone else noticed this?

I developed a leak that I suspect is the infamous head plug problem right after I switched to synthetic. Coincidence? You be the judge. I'll keep running synthetic. I'd rather leak a little and feel a little better about what's in the engine. I had heard years ago that synthetic could bring about leaks. I don't know why. Maybe it cleans away the crap that was plugging the holes before?

So long as it remains a slow leak, I'll leave it be until this winter. I'm sure Kay will be thrilled to let me bring the bike in the living room to tinker on during those 18 hour nights. Right, honey? Hey what are you doing?! Put down that frying p....

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Charon on 07/14/08 at 18:39:26

Any major brand 10W-40. As long as it doesn't have the "energy conserving" logo. I am just a little leery of store brands, such as WalMart's "Super Tech." Otherwise, Pennzoil, Castrol, Quaker State, Havoline, Valvoline, or whatever. I weigh price heavily.

Many years ago I was reading a magazine, which had a column called "Ask Smokey". Smokey was Smokey Yunick, of racing fame. The question was essentially "What happens if I mix oils?" His answer, parapharased: "The Army operates the biggest fleet of motor vehicles in the world. The Army buys a lot of oil, and every oil supplier wants to sell to the Army. The Army requires that any oil it buys conform to MILSPEC. One of the requirements of MILSPEC is that any oil must mix with any other oil, in any proportion, without ill effects. The obvious reason is so the motor pool can just pour in whatever oil they have without worrying about what oil might already be in the vehicle." He went on to add that if you happened to mix viscosities, you got something that sort of split the difference. That answer made so much sense that I ceased worrying about the brand of oil I bought.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by cornfuzed on 07/14/08 at 18:40:05

40464745585E45442A0 wrote:

[quote author=786F7C696F686F7C630E0 link=1214085990/15#19 date=1216005260]I switche dto the Mobil 1, but now I notice that the usage is higher. A friend also told me that his Honda used more sythetic vs conventional. Has anyone else noticed this?

Title: Re: Oil
Post by Bleemus on 07/14/08 at 18:50:11

I use Mobil 1 20w-50 V-Twin Motorcycle Oil. Hot here in the south. Wish I could find it cheaper than $10 quart.

Title: Re: Oil
Post by KwakNut on 07/15/08 at 01:43:13

2A3D2E3B3D3A3D2E315C0 wrote:

I switche dto the Mobil 1, but now I notice that the usage is higher. A friend also told me that his Honda used more sythetic vs conventional. Has anyone else noticed this?

Quite commoin with older V8s too, if you use 5W40 or 10W40 synthetic, but not a problem if you use 15W50 or 20W50. If you keep the viscosity up, synthetic won't slip past the rings.