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Message started by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 05:25:29

Title: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 05:25:29

Well it's not fixed yet. After they drained the tank yesterday and got the water and bad gas out I was assured that everything was fine.

This morning on the way to work it cut out and died 3 times. Slowed down to make a turn and it died. Didn't want to start back up. Next stop sign died again. Stop sign after that I kept the throttle open so it wouldn't die. Final stop sign died. The first time it died this morning it actually died before I made the turn. Just quit as I started to slow so I coasted through the turn and stopped.

Gas isn't going where it's supposed to obviously. Sound like carb to you guys? It did this yesterday on the way to work before we got the bad gas out. When I told the mechanic he said 'no it didn't. It's your driving.' Funny how it was running fine before I took it in for supposed pre trip service.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/08 at 05:55:37

Put it on prime & see if it acts different. I nkow thats lame, but its all I have.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by bill67 on 06/12/08 at 06:00:29

Did you ever try seafoam in the gas

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 06:04:39

No I didn't try seafoam. I need to try to find some. I made the mistake of saying something about it to the shop and got poo poo'd, that stupid woman thing.

Blood pressure at a new high and I have really low blood pressure.

I'll call down to the other place this morning and see if they have seafoam. I can get to them at lunch.

If it's not reliable in the city I am not taking it on the road for 2000 miles until I know it's OK. Bummer :'(

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by bill67 on 06/12/08 at 06:09:20

Walmart and most auto supplies here sell seaform

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by Reelthing on 06/12/08 at 06:15:31

737E5B46465E57505B4056320 wrote:

might should go back to the shop and get in their face - so the bad gas just showed up after the pretrip service?

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 06:43:41

I had filled it up just prior to taking it in last week. Had 30 miles on the tank. There was water in the bowl. So the assumption was it was bad gas, drain the tank, clean it out and use new gas. They did that last night. Rode it home fine. It started fine this morning. It was just about 2 miles down the road when it started cutting out.

I thought the pre trip service was going to include cleaning the carb, checking the valves etc but all they did was do a basic check and change the oil. ANd when they tried to put the vista cruise on they snapped the throttle tube.

I know there are no coincidences but I'm not happy.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/08 at 06:45:27

I wouldnt add anything to it. Id take it in, & tell them "It was running fine when I came here. My driving style hasnt changed. I came here to make SURE it was okay for a 2,000 mile trip. I want to ride it. I need you to figure out what you did to it sio I can. If you cant do that, I can take it to another shop & when their servive man figures it out & its is YOUR fault, you can pay their bill. But, I will be on that trip in X days.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/08 at 08:58:57

Did you try prime?
Vac hose connected properly?
Vent hoses connected properly?

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 10:25:56

No I didn't try prime since it was running fine and then not. But I will when I leave work if it happens. I will also check the hoses when I get home.

I have a call into the other shop about it. They are 2 weeks behind but said that 2 of their mechanics do work at home after hours so they are supposed to call me this afternoon. He's at leats trying to get me on the road Tuesday.

Maybe it will be someone who will show me how to clean a carb.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/12/08 at 12:29:10

I'm going to put in 2 more cents worth. As I'm just trying to help! So I'm going to throw this in also :-/

But,didnt SW have a problem with her bike dying off and on, and it was a pinched cable or something.

Does anyone remember that?

I remember parts of it,but not all of it. Was simple to fix though.

(Just thinking that the problem could actually be two different problems instead of just one)

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 13:37:55

Do I have to run the tank of gas out before I put seafoam in? I filled it back up yesterday after the mechanic drained it.

I was going to runout and get some. If it doesn't work I've only lost a few bucks. The other mechanic hasn't called.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by bill67 on 06/12/08 at 14:03:54

No put some in right away then run it,then over night it will be working to clean up stuff,then drive tomorrow ,If you know how to take off fuel bowl take it off put 1/2 ounce in fuel bowl and put it back on it will give it a strong mix.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/12/08 at 14:25:25

I have the clymers manual. I'll look to see about taking the fuel bowl off.

Thanks Bill. On my way over to Wally world.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/12/08 at 18:19:30

I've never tried it to see what would happen... If they screwed around with the idle air/fuel mixture, could it be running so lean that it won't run? What happens when you shut that screw all the way down and leave it for awhile? I've only ever done that with the engine off prior to counting turns out when tuning the carb.

I'm just thinking that if it happened "overnight", and the new gas is presumably good, then it isn't likely to be varnish and crud so much as something the mechanic did. Seafoam sure won't hurt, but I think I'd find out where that screw is set.

Maybe I'm way off, but isn't "running waaaay to lean" another way of saying "fuel starvation?"

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/12/08 at 18:33:45

When I was talking about SW's experience,her bike would just die at times....seems like it was a short she had somewhere.
Dose anyone remember?

I tried a search but that was almost a year ago....and the search isnt showing it.Or I'm not putting in the right thing :-/

I do remember it died on her at a conveinience(sp) store and a mechanic was across the street , he found the short and fixed it for her.(Guess it was just shorting out at times.)

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/14/08 at 09:28:59

So,I'm wondering,did ALittlebird ever get her bike straightened out? :-/ :)

And if so,how?

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by ALittlebird on 06/14/08 at 10:34:30

Not sure yet. I put seafoam in and it didn't cut out. This morning I had trouble getting it to stay started but when I did I decided to make a long run up the highway. Seemed to do OK although still sounding a little rough. Ran through that tank and put some more in with more seafoam. I'll do another long run tomorrow morning while it's still cool out and see what happens.

I've been back and forth about whether to make the trip to MN or not. I'll wait and see how the bike and I feel on Tuesday.

Since the helmet I ordered hasn't come I went and got a full face helmet from the local store so I can get on the road. It's all been a comedy of errors. They are nice guys - they asked if the mechanic had changed the filter after draining the tank. You know I don't think he did. :(

Time for a new mechanic. When I get back I'll take it up to someone else and have them go all over it. Plug, seals, valves, everything.

The stealership service manager here tried his best to find someone that wasn't backed up to get me in to look at it but no one was available. He went way beyond the call of duty. So I think I'll drop it off to them when they have an opening.

It's enough to actually make me think of mechanics school.

Title: Re: Cutting out and dying
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/14/08 at 10:46:04

0D0025383820292E253E284C0 wrote:

I know what you mean about mechanics school!!

Keep us posted of the outcome! We wish you much luck :)