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Message started by bacon13 on 06/07/08 at 16:08:55

Title: LED turn signals
Post by bacon13 on 06/07/08 at 16:08:55

I have searched the site and am now more confused then before, after reading about load, resistors, parallel, series, flasher, amps, volts. Enough.

I went to the auto part store and told them my problem. I installed 2 led signals and now there is no flash, only steady on. The guy had no clue. I asked about an electronic flasher vs. a thermal one and he still had no clue.

I went to Radio Shack and again told them of my problem. Again he had no clue. I said something about resistors and he perked up, opening a drawer. He asked me what the draw was on my led's and I had no clue. He asked the volts of the leds and I still had no clue.

Can someone please help me get this to work? Electronics might as well be a foreign language to me. Isn't there an electronic flasher I can buy at a store w/o doing it over the internet?

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by gj859 on 06/07/08 at 16:13:17

I installed an Led taillight with built in turn signals and it worked fine, just sped them up a little. Are you sure you wired it right and have a good ground?

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by Paladin. on 06/07/08 at 16:38:38

I haven't tested it, but this is claimed to be your solution....
http://www.customled.com/PRODUCTS/FLASHER_RELAY/flasher_relay.htm#elfr1

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by demin on 06/07/08 at 16:38:38

Autoparts store get an electronic flasher.Autozone sucks,if it aint in the computer they're clueless.

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by bacon13 on 06/07/08 at 18:09:26

I asked about that as I had read that online. The guy there had no idea what the difference was between an electronic and thermal flasher. He then asks another employee who then says "you lost me after the word motorcycle".

I looked at the flashers they had on the shelf but there were different sizes and types of course. I imagine it would matter the type of electronic flasher I choose?

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by ALfromN.H. on 06/07/08 at 18:28:19

you could use a load equalizer like one of these

http://www.customdynamics.com/loadequalizer.htm#Universal%20Turn%20Signal

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by thumperclone on 06/08/08 at 09:24:47

58555B5B0F390 wrote:

you could use a load equalizer like one of these

http://www.customdynamics.com/loadequalizer.htm#Universal%20Turn%20Signal

if yopu go with an electroinc flasher (2 prong)youll have to fab a mount but if you change all four t.s. to leds youll be covered...savavge greg i believe used load equalizers on his conversion...check jpcycles they have load equilizers...dual and quad...btw your leds are 12 volt but that wont help the guy at R.S.

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by bacon13 on 06/08/08 at 20:19:51

Thanks for the info. I will look into a flasher. Seems the easiest fix for me.

Title: Re: LED turn signals
Post by pgman on 06/09/08 at 05:10:52

I haven't tested it, but this is claimed to be your solution....
http://www.customled.com/PRODUCTS/FLASHER_RELAY/flasher_relay.htm#elfr1

I used that electronic flasher on my bike, and I plan to install one on the Savage soon. It is a good alternative to a load equalizer and works well.

Remember that, when doing these conversions, you lose the safety feature of the stop-flash / fast-flash built into the OEM systems. That means that you will have no indication if a lamp fails. Presumably, the LED lamps last a LOT longer than the incandescent ones, but everything breaks eventually. Be sure you check all your turn signals before your ride - every time.

Sometimes, there are issues with power back-feeding across the rider indicators when doing LED conversions (because LED circuits have relativelyl high DC resistance) but the Savage has seperate turn-signal indicators for the rider, and so I doubt this will be an issue.

Do yourself a favor and find / replace the OEM flasher before doing anything to the lights (if you choose that route). Then, test the installation before you begin replacing the OEM lamps with the LEDs (and immediately after changing EACH ONE). That will save you a LOT of hair-pulling, becuase you will KNOW where the problem is if one suddenly crops up.

Finally, I am sure you've figured this out by now, but you'll not likely get any help from Radio Shack or Autozone - the RS guys are not even trained in electronics anymore.

Good luck.