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Message started by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 12:13:10

Title: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 12:13:10

I finally worked up a big enough set to tackle the valve inspection. I got all my tools handy and started to remove the seat. Then I got to thinking... It would be the pits to get the spark plug out and then not be able to remove this fancy timing inspection plug I've heard so many good things about. So I tried it. Sure enough, it is stuck solid.

I tried a washer, which promptly bent. So I sandwiched a washer between two others with their edges ground flat, and it bent. I know I just read a thread about this the other day, but I can't find it, and I don't know if anything was resolved anyway.

By the way, the plug on the parts bike came right out, which does me no good. But at least I'm sure it can be done.

So, once again... What to do now?

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by youzguyz on 06/06/08 at 12:34:42

Check with your local motorcycle place for a Timing Plug Wrench.. like this Timing Plug Wrench (http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/catalogs/detail/24/139/258/26197/all/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/timing-plug-wrench.aspx)

You can also do a search through the forums for Timing Plug.. others have had luck with various work arounds.

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by serowbot on 06/06/08 at 12:41:26

Why o' why can't they make those things take an allen wrench!?

Well,... first make sure and get some penetrating oil in there, then see if you have a butter knife with a decent curve on the blade (they're usually made of stiffer stuff than washers), then get a vice grip on it and pray.

good luck

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/08 at 12:48:37

This one worked for me, but didn't do it until after my plug looked like sh!t.

Take 2 big same length screw drivers and a cresant wrench. Place the screwdrivers in the slot as far apart and still can be grabbed by the cresant wrench. Hold the handles with one hand and twist with the cresant wrench.

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 12:58:17

Thanks for all the replies. I got it.

I took a 1" spade bit (those flat wood boring bits for any non-carpenter types) and ground the end into a slight curve. Put a channel lock on it and gave my best caveman grunt. It came out. When it started to move, it felt like the resistance was in the rubber O-ring instead of the threads. Don't ask how I'd know that. It was just the impression I got. Guess I won't tighten it much when I put it back in.

Now on to the scary part. The valves.

Thanks again

Jason.

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/08 at 13:07:46

Hmmm, those can be gotten rather cheaply, I'll put that in the memmory bank, thanks. ;D

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Gary On A Savage on 06/06/08 at 13:11:43

3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 wrote:

Hmmm, those can be gotten rather cheaply, I'll put that in the memmory bank, thanks. ;D

Yeah..and fits in the tool pouch! Not bad at all!

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 13:21:31

Yep. This one was part of a zillion part bit set that Costco had on sale a few years back for about $30. The box they came in was worth every penny, too. 1/2 the bits are stamped "Made in ina" The "Ch" guy must not have come to work that day.

Anyway, the bit set just paid for itself. Finally. :)

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by shermeco on 06/06/08 at 14:44:09

I got a really big screwdriver from harbor freight worked great!

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 17:57:53

Well, the job is done! Yay for my team! I'm glad I went and checked them too, because I couldn't get a 2 mil feeler gauge in them when I started. Now they are all at 3 1/2 - 4 mil.

It wasn't painful at all, but tedious. I'd get them set, tighten the nut, and they'd be too loose, then too tight. And I think my feelers were built for a bigger working space. It's pretty tight in there. Oh well, now I have one less thing to worry about on the way to Philipsburgh. :)

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Reelthing on 06/06/08 at 18:13:06

.003-.004 inch right ?

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 06/06/08 at 18:22:10

Yup. Sorry. Sometimes the carpenter in me leaks out.

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by Reelthing on 06/06/08 at 18:46:00

of course 3-4 mils is correct also - was just looking for clarity - no idea how often these valves get set to say .012 " instead of .012 mm - folks that have done this sure report the engine clicks a little bit :o

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/08 at 01:07:21

The washer I use is so thick it barely fits in the groove & is large enough that I have to file the thing down to fit the curve of the groove. In Other words, It Fits the Slot very nicely. A washer 1/16th thick aint the answer, even if ya do make a steel sammich widditt.

Title: Re: &(^*^!#^$% timing cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/08 at 01:10:45

OHHHH Yea, After all the "My timing cover wont come out" threads, I went & checked. Mine came right out & Yea, I DO give it that little extra after it stops, BUT,, mine is all slimey with antisieze, so the aluminum threads never get a chance to gall onto the mating threads.