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Message started by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 08:17:32

Title: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 08:17:32

I am new here. I started a thread recently about an '03 Savage I was looking at. Well, I ended up buying it for $1300. I have been riding around the neighborhood some refamiliarizing myself with a bike. She runs good and rides good so far. I wish I could hear a newer one run (mine has quite a few miles) It seems like I hear a tapping on the left side of the motor, but it could be something simple or nothing at all. In time I will ck the cam adjuster out, and have the shop adjust the valves. I plan on doing an oil and filter change soon. Looking forward to learning more about this bike and riding in general!

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/08 at 09:01:07

If you're hearing tapping on the left, got a high mileage bike, I'd open up the clutch cover right away and let the gremlin out! Before he gets a chance to really booger things up.

No sir, wouldn't ride another inch. get yourself a clutch cover gasket and getRdone. (nope, nada, wouldn't even turn her over, new engine will cost you 400 kind of sweat) :o

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 10:06:48

203324253A3731333867560 wrote:

Have a Tech link or can you give me ore detail what I should look for?

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by YonuhAdisi on 05/19/08 at 10:15:49

Go to the bottom of the screen to the "Forum Jump" drop down menu (it will show Rubber Side Down), click on tech referance, then click on table of contents thread.

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 10:19:55

7046475C41684D405A40290 wrote:

Go to the bottom of the screen to the "Forum Jump" drop down menu (it will show Rubber Side Down), click on tech referance, then click on table of contents thread.

OK....went there. I swear I am not stupid! I can find can chain adj. articles, but nothing on clutch inspection. Am I misunderstanding what I should be doing or am I looking for the wrong thing?

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Gary On A Savage on 05/19/08 at 10:26:55

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1191167029

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 10:50:45

2224373C1A2A2B241A362433242220450 wrote:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1191167029

OK. I read that one. My noise is on the left side and for some reason I assumed the chain adj. was on the right......and someome mentioned the clutch.

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by T Mack 1 on 05/19/08 at 10:52:20

tapping in the left side..... high on the left side or low on the left side????

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 10:56:18

7C0565494B4319280 wrote:

tapping in the left side..... high on the left side or low on the left side????

Hard to say with that loud azz exhaust, but if I had to guess I would say it sounds lower....

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/08 at 11:00:16

I'd use a stethoscope, well, screwdriver, tip against engine, handle on bone in front of ear & then in the ear, too. Top left on the engine, to see if the valves are claching a bit. Then, on the right side, too. See if you can hear clicking. Whirring is normal, because the cam chain slides on the guides. After you've listened, I would still open & look. This will allow you to gain the experience of having heard the sounds & seen the mechanical parts that make those sounds. IF the noises arent good & you open & see it in need of maintenance, then, you know what it sounds like when its time for work. If it sounds okay & looks okay, then later, if it starts sounding different, then its time to look again. Likely time for a cam chain. Dont pay someone else. Buy the tools, get thew book & we will talk you thru. WE? Yes, I just volunteered these others to help you, too. If you pay for the maintenance this bike needs, you will spend more than the bikes worth in a few years AND, your riding season will be spent with your bike sitting in line, waiting to be worked on. Most of the tools needed can be "El Cheapo" tools. My allen wrenches are from Harbor Freight, never stripped any. The cheap torque wrench from Sears is doing me fine. Looking at the torque specs, the bolts are to be torqued to any number of foot pounds, between 7 & 12( I think thats the range for the header studs) & looking at the manual, I noticed the range was wide on all the stuff I expect to ever touch, so an inexpensive torque wrench should do it. If you arent very strong, then for just a few bucks, an impact wrench, I have 1/2 inch & 3/8ths, a cheap compressor, just a small one to use to break nuts loose, will make it easier on you. I was able to reinstall the clutchpack without a backup holding the engine because the impact would run the nut home before the engine would spin. Must have worked, that was about 4,000 miles ago. All in all, this is a crude little bike, simple & forgiveing. Dont be afraid, wade on in. I was skeert, even tho I have a good mechanical background, but these folks talked me thru & just paying the labor on the cam chain would have cost me more than the price of the compressor & torque wrench.( I think, anyway)

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/08 at 11:34:51

6245575750240 wrote:

[quote author=7C0565494B4319280 link=1211210253/0#7 date=1211219540]tapping in the left side..... high on the left side or low on the left side????

Hard to say with that loud azz exhaust, but if I had to guess I would say it sounds lower....[/quote]
oops :-[ you did say left side and cam chain adj is on the right. ;D

Did I ever tell you what I would check if I bought a high mileage bike? Why I would check the condition of the cam chain adjuster of course ;D Knowing the state of this little bugger will tell you a lot about how the bike was maintained. And if you noise on the left, I look at that side too. Starter gears are there. On 4 speeds there are issues with the starter gears. Any odd noises during startup?

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by BurnPgh on 05/19/08 at 12:30:14

before i changed out my cam chain tensioner for the verslavy i'd get an intermittent "click/tap" that sounded like it was on the left side. After putting the verslavy in its gone.

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/19/08 at 19:21:11

Burn....what would cause the noise on the left side, that would go away when replacing the cam chain adj.?

Also, it is an 02 so it is a 5 speed. I have pressed my left foot on everything I can to see if the noise goes away and it doesn't. If I pull the left cover off, what will be inside? :o

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/08 at 20:44:40

He just heard the noise on the left side. It was recommended that he open both covers I think and found the cam chain tensioner was about to come undone. Tapping the case each time it wobbled. When you are listening to a caucauffeny, it doesn't matter where the clarinets sit.

left cover is generator and starter gears.

and right side is clutch and cam chain.

Title: Re: So I bought it!
Post by Fasst on 05/20/08 at 05:14:36

Thanks y'all! I will try to make some time to pull the right cover and take a peak. I will go buy a gasket and filter, and ask if they have the tensioner in stock.