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Message started by marina on 05/12/08 at 09:49:32

Title: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fingers
Post by marina on 05/12/08 at 09:49:32

I have my heart set on a Savage.  I can't explain it but I just KNOW this is love.  I am going to chop/bob it and will do it with my bear hands!  So here's the dilio - my bf rides an Aprilia 1000R Milla and his 'group' of friends say that I will hate my butt on roadtrips with the one cylinder, and that the vibration will annoy me to no end.  While I get the vibration from the one cylinder I also know I am not going to ride more then a few hours and will take stops at 80 miles.  We want to carve out a lot of Cali (I live in Seattle).  So what are your thoughts about the Savage and road trips.  

This is my first bike, btw.  8-)

No scolding me on searching the forum!  I've read them all but want to hear it fresh from the one cylinder perspective.

Thanks!

I love this forum.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by rpgpgmr on 05/12/08 at 10:22:48

The savage is a perfect first bike.  It's my first and I love it!  I've heard mixed feelings on the vibration, but as for myself, I don't get much vibration at all.  After hours of riding, yes your butt will be a little numb, but there is a seat mod in our Technical Documents section that will pretty much cure that.  It costs a few bucks and takes a few minutes and makes a WORLD of difference.

As for power, this is no ordinary single-cylinder.  I ride with a V-Star, a Dyna Glide, and a VLX.  I have NO problem keeping pace wherever we go.  It will out-maneuver all of them because of its light weight and smaller size.  I'm not a small man either--I'm 6', 230 pounds!  They are easy to work on and so much fun to ride.  WHATEVER you want to do to it, there is someone on this forum who can help guide you through it.  We have the best forum on the Internet in my opinion.  FWIW

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by skatnbnc on 05/12/08 at 10:43:06

It's good for long rides once you get the seat the way you like it. Some people stay with the stock seat, but others change to gel, pads and shock changes.

The vibration on this bike is LESS than the Honda Nighthawk I had before, and it seems less than a Yamaha I have ridden. What I have not tried is a really big cruiser because the weight is too much for me to handle. I'm guessing (correctly) that they ride smoother because thats what they are designed for.

All that being said, this is a HIGHLY adaptable bike - you can make it into whatever works for you. Ride safe!  :)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Baldeagle on 05/12/08 at 12:53:33

I had somewhat of a bad vibration coming from the right foot peg.  Someone suggested to tighten the two bolts that hold the heat shield on.  These also are engine mount bolts. I Put a little 'mo-jo' and them and things got a whole lot better.

Kuryakyn ISO grips with the stelleto bar ends help in that area.  Pillow top gel with seat mod makes a big difference. :)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Gary On A Savage on 05/12/08 at 13:41:29

Chain conversion..as long as you are making changes to it.  Cheap and easy conversion that lowers revs on the road.  I have ridden 2-1/2 hrs non-stop on it no problem.  But seat IS the key to it.  Stock can be painful.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by PhotoProf on 05/12/08 at 14:16:46

I've had a number of bikes (various brands) over the years with a Yamaha Virago 750 twin being the largest and I would say the S-40 has got to be one of the most fun! The vibration isn't bad for a big single and it is easy to maneuver. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg and gets very good gas mileage. What more can I say?

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/08 at 14:33:12

A pair progressive shocks is next on my list of improvements because it's not the vibes that bother it, it's the sharp jolts.

For those that enjoy doing maintenance, there's not a better bike.  I stopped working on cars due to all the electronics, but this is like the VW I had in college.

You won't be stoppies and wheelies, but you'll keep up with them and you might even beat them off the line.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/12/08 at 14:35:47

For a single, the Savage has very little vibration.  As mentioned above, the stock seat can be uncomfortable for longer than a short trip.  There are a lot of paths to a better seat.  I've used an S40 gel seat and while it's better than the stock seat, I much prefer the HD Sportster seat I got from eBay.  However, depending on your bobbing plans, you might want to go for a springer seat... a wide police version, if you can find it.  It'll take a little modding to make it fit but that's half the fun.  Gort just did one and it looks comfy.  Oh, and I agree with Verslagen1 too.  Upgraded shocks help a lot for ride comfort.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 05/12/08 at 15:14:39

When I got back into riding after a 40 year lay off, I knew little about modern bikes.  What I remembered as big bikes were mostly single cylinder machines in teh 650 - 750 range.

When I told several of my buddies I wanted an S40, they all cautioned me about the vibration of a thumper.

Well, this past weekend I rode my S40 to our airport, where most of these nay sayers also hang out on weekends.

One of them, age 61, who has been riding about everything made since he was in high school, took my bike for a 1/2 hour ride.  He came back amazed at how smooth it is.  This from a guy who currently owns THREE Honda FT 500 Ascots, a Norton Commando, a Ducatti, and a couple more bikes in pieces.

Then, our chief mechanic rode it.  This guy is a former chief engine builder for a Champ Car team, an Indy Car team, and knows more about engines of all kinds, cars, bikes, airplanes, etc. than anyone else I know.  He was a grin from ear to ear, amazed at how smooth the S40 is.  He owns a BMW bike.

Then, a captain for Northwest Airlines rode my bike.  He has another FT 500 Ascot - he was also very pleased at the smoothness.

So, that's the report from those who have far more experience to form a basis of comparison than I.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Paladin. on 05/12/08 at 16:24:21


574F4F5A594752524C200 wrote:
....I will hate my butt on roadtrips with the one cylinder, and that the vibration will annoy me to no end....
As others note, Suzuki did a fabulous job with the counterbalancer and this thumper mostly doesn't.  As I remember it, my '82 or so GS450E Twin buzzed a lot worse at Interstate speeds.  Both with the twin and the single, limiting speed to about 70 mph cures the buzzing -- AND you don't have to worry about Johnny Law!

I heard of the GEEIA reunion in OKC, planned to attend.  Wasn't too sure about my physical ability to endure a roadtrip, so after work one Friday I got home, took a nap, got on the bike about 9pm, road 100+ freeway miles to the Palm Springs area, refueled, took a leisurely putt through Joshua Tree National Park (ain't nothin' prettier than the Mojave under a Full Moon,) refueled, took the freeway home.  Surprized myself -- didn't get tired, didn't get sore, but the Flyscreen is no good with 30+mph headwinds.  Did it again, with the Street Shield and airline carryon luggage -- much better (especially as I was able to brew a cup of tea about 3 am.)

So I did it, rode Thumper to the Reunion:

Started by doing L.A. to Amarillo, 1085 miles, in two days.  My butt and feet didn't care for it and I knew I would not be able to do Jonesboro AR - Needles CA for a BB1500 back from visiting #1 daughter which reverted to plan B, 300 mi/day on two lanes back to L.A..      BUT.....

That's a 60-year-old butt that gets stiff and sore on the livingroom sofa if I don't move about once in a while; a younger butt might not have that problem.  I don't think a multi-cylinder bike would help as the problem was not vibration, but was instead a matter of not being able to shift position much.  I definitely need floorboards before the next long trip.  Already have a wider sprung saddle that needs mounting.

As others note, convert to chain and you'll be able to reduce the RPM at speed and reduce the vibration from a buzzzzzz to a rumble -- think the prankster's handshake "joy buzzer" versus a motel's vibrating bed.

And please note that this is all subjective.  What is comfort for one is pain for another.

If you want to yank their chains, tell the guys that you enjoy having something hot and throbbing between the thighs.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/12/08 at 17:02:51


4F5C4B4A55585E5C5708390 wrote:
I stopped working on cars due to all the electronics, but this is like the VW I had in college.


Unreal.  That is what I told my bf.  I had a '70 bug a few years ago (and the Complete Idiot Guide to VW maintenance book).  I worked on that bug all the time.  I learned how to change the bleed the brakes, change the belts, set the timing .. on and on.  So yeah .. I feel the same about this bike.   ;)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/12/08 at 17:04:57


222D212B202D262A2D3A2F2D3A480 wrote:
When I got back into riding after a 40 year lay off, I knew little about modern bikes.  What I remembered as big bikes were mostly single cylinder machines in teh 650 - 750 range.

When I told several of my buddies I wanted an S40, they all cautioned me about the vibration of a thumper.

Well, this past weekend I rode my S40 to our airport, where most of these nay sayers also hang out on weekends.

One of them, age 61, who has been riding about everything made since he was in high school, took my bike for a 1/2 hour ride.  He came back amazed at how smooth it is.  This from a guy who currently owns THREE Honda FT 500 Ascots, a Norton Commando, a Ducatti, and a couple more bikes in pieces.

Then, our chief mechanic rode it.  This guy is a former chief engine builder for a Champ Car team, an Indy Car team, and knows more about engines of all kinds, cars, bikes, airplanes, etc. than anyone else I know.  He was a grin from ear to ear, amazed at how smooth the S40 is.  He owns a BMW bike.

Then, a captain for Northwest Airlines rode my bike.  He has another FT 500 Ascot - he was also very pleased at the smoothness.

So, that's the report from those who have far more experience to form a basis of comparison than I.


jerry - is that a stock seat?

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/12/08 at 17:17:09

Thanks everyone!  This makes me feel sooo much better about the decision.

I hope to have one look like this one day:

http://www.hessen-stammtisch.de/show/SOP2007/100_0546.JPG


Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 05/12/08 at 17:26:44

Like Paladin, the pain in my rear comes from the seating position and inability to move around.  The only vibration I've noticed is the speedometer squeaking away at me.  I'm building a seat, and if it turns out as comfortable as it seems to be during testing, I am going to climb on the Savage and ride to Hawaii.  Just gotta do the water wing and snorkel mod.  I'm sick of this lousy weather.

I've put about 1200 miles on my bike now, 5-50 miles at a time.  Haven't done a long stretch, but I'm looking forward to a road trip, not dreading it.  I LOVE my People Eater.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by joebothehobo on 05/12/08 at 20:04:44

Where on earth did you find that photo? its fantastic! If you can get your bike to look like that, I'm sure you'd get more grins than frowns for your choice. Especially if you go with paladin's tactic of mentioning that the vibration between your legs is far from unwelcome.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Charlie on 05/12/08 at 20:52:36

Picture was gotten here...

http://www.hessen-stammtisch.de/show/SOP2007/

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by jomiyo on 05/13/08 at 06:04:20

I actually bought my S40 in Cali, i took it up and down the coast via Rt 1 (my avatar picture is about an hour south of san fran on rt 1)


It was amazing!      but i had a friend with me most of the time who had a little 250 honda, so that kept me down a little.   after i lost him it was all good thump'n fun.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by T Mack 1 on 05/13/08 at 06:30:50

A "Aprilia 1000R Milla "   :o  :o

http://i21.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/e9/d9/1117_2.JPG

The Savage isn't a sport bike,   on the twisties your "friend and his group" will leave you in the dust.....  but.....  at the end ot the day thier shoulders will be hurting, knee's a little stiff too.  Their butts might not hurt but thier groin muscles might be sore.  
 As for comfort ...  a guy at work has a big Ducati sport bike.   He said he only drives it to work becuase it hurts if he goes for too long.
   I went on a ride with my Savage, a Honde 750 Shadow Spirit  and two sport bikes, a BMW 1200 (something) and a Honda 929 .   The way the sport bikes drove,  I could see why there are MC accident reports in the news.    Half way thru the ride they had to take a break, too much work riding "hard".   The Shadow rider and I were like, "let's get going.... we came to ride..."   they gave us a look that could kill...    ;D







Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 05/13/08 at 06:31:14

Marina -

Yes, my seat is a stock one.  I will investigate more about a gel seat soon.  I have only ridden my S40 about 200 miles since I got it a few weeks ago.  Here in Ohio, we're still in the rainy and chilly season - it'll be another couple of weeks before the weather gets more dependable.

Up until about 5 years ago, I was a dedicated bicyclist, and went thru several iterations of saddles until I was comfortable.  But, of course, guys have different issues, particularly on bicycle saddles.  It was a physical injury caused by male anatomy that caused me to give up bicycling.  At my age (mid 50s then), there is a huge correlation between prostate trauma and bicycles.

And, after I take the MSF course in two more weeks, then I'll get serious about the seat.

I really don't anticipate many, if any, really long road trips.  I bought the bike for fun, for riding 32 miles round trip to the airport on weekends, and a once in a while commute to work, 18 miles round trip, running errands, and that sort of thing.  My wife will never get on it with me.

So, my concerns about long range comfort weren't all that great.  I wanted a smallish bike (almost bought a Rebel) that I can re-learn on, but with enough power to cruise if I want to, and give me the other benefits of some power without buying a huge machine.  To me, the S40 fits those needs very well.

Good luck with your decision.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by drharveys on 05/13/08 at 12:54:58

Jerry --

I so agree with you on the bicycle seats.  All mine are now of the split style.  Much more comfortable once you break in to them.


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/drharveys/Bike%20Sushi/SM-AAG3-NCL-ANGLE.jpg

I've actually been applying some of the "split saddle" principle to my Triumph.  The flat seat on it is actually domed, putting pressure just where I don't want it.  Removing support from the center has helped.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by FreeSpirit on 05/13/08 at 13:11:53

I've seen that pic before....isnt that a guy from Germany(or another country?)(Sorry,didnt see the link before posting!)

I do like the girls custom bike on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUGBflWrsc&feature=related

(Dont like the background music much though,I really wanted to hear the muffler better!)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by steely on 05/13/08 at 16:34:13

Yeah, that bike is from Germany.  If you want the longer fork tubes like that you might talk to Rockin' John.  I believe that one of his bikes has that mod.  The rear fender looks to be a trailer fender.  Those have the distinction of being inexpensive, so if you screw one up, go spend another $30 and start over.  Eventually, mine will have a swing arm mounted trailer fender instead of the big heavy thing  that is on there now.  Welcome to the board!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Jonny_Chicago on 05/13/08 at 23:26:50

I have driven 8 hours straight on the savage.  I have not noticed the vibrations to cause discomfort.  It has to be more comfortable than a crotch rocket.  Good luck!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by mick on 05/13/08 at 23:57:39

What vibration?
The secret is to ride your bike every where,put your cage away for the summer, the seat a little tough at first but you get used to it,years ago a bike was my only means of transportation,after a while ether the seat adjust your butt or your butt adjust to your seat.
I don't have any vibration,so I don't know what to say about that.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/14/08 at 01:20:54

Hi marina,

enjoy your first bike. The savage is realy a nice and god beginner bike. The Bike on the picture you post is mine (and thank you for voting  :) )

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1101450598/108#108

BTW: in several days it will be roll on a 21" front weel - in germany you need (for all modifikations!!) the OK from a Technical Inspection Agency  :-/  :'(

I'm the owner of a little custom garage in Germany (near Frankfurt) and if you'r interrest to order a custom bike or to by the bike on the photo please contact me.

regards Leo

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Finnishbobber on 05/14/08 at 02:48:11


1735223D313E0F1C353F500 wrote:
Hi marina,

enjoy your first bike. The savage is realy a nice and god beginner bike. The Bike on the picture you post is mine (and thank you for voting  :) )

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1101450598/108#108

BTW: in several days it will be roll on a 21" front weel - in germany you need (for all modifikations!!) the OK from a Technical Inspection Agency  :-/  :'(

I'm the owner of a little custom garage in Germany (near Frankfurt) and if you'r interrest to order a custom bike or to by the bike on the photo please contact me.

regards Leo



Hello there Leo

Indeed thats one rocking bike. I was wondering where have you installed your battery in that?

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/14/08 at 03:36:28


ou can put the Batt under the frame - use a gel-bat

Leo


Quote:
Hello there Leo

Indeed thats one rocking bike. I was wondering where have you installed your battery in that?


Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by smokin_blue on 05/14/08 at 03:51:01


5B796E717D72435079731C0 wrote:
Hi marina,

enjoy your first bike. The savage is realy a nice and god beginner bike. The Bike on the picture you post is mine (and thank you for voting  :) )

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1101450598/108#108

BTW: in several days it will be roll on a 21" front weel - in germany you need (for all modifikations!!) the OK from a Technical Inspection Agency  :-/  :'(

I'm the owner of a little custom garage in Germany (near Frankfurt) and if you'r interrest to order a custom bike or to by the bike on the photo please contact me.

regards Leo



Leo,  Great job on the custom.  I noticed the frame head looks stock but you are running a severely offset triple tree to get your rake.  Did you design that or is that from somewhere else?

Keep up the great builds!

Smokin-Blue
(PS: check out the link in my signature line for customs of a different flavor)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/14/08 at 05:28:31

Thanx  S-Blue,

use a 13° Fischer or AME triple tree. In Germany it's very expensive to build self-constructed bikeparts because each part of it must be checked and approved from the Technical Inspection Agency (for each biketype). So - one costom part e.g. triple tree for one biketype will be cost ca. 8000-15.000 $. After that you get the papers for selling (sellinglicence). It's too much for me...

but the design would be easy  ;)

Ciao Leo


Quote:
Leo,  Great job on the custom.  I noticed the frame head looks stock but you are running a severely offset triple tree to get your rake.  Did you design that or is that from somewhere else?

Keep up the great builds!

Smokin-Blue
(PS: check out the link in my signature line for customs of a different flavor)


Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Finnishbobber on 05/14/08 at 05:37:54




5C7E69767A7544577E741B0 wrote:
ou can put the Batt under the frame - use a gel-bat

Leo


Quote:
Hello there Leo

Indeed thats one rocking bike. I was wondering where have you installed your battery in that?



Leo, do you happen to have more pictures of that bike???

And about the bat, doesnt it hit the ground for example going over the concrete edge at the parking area (i always have to do that when I come to my work place)?

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/14/08 at 06:12:33

what do you do?! i think you need a cross bike to use the parking area  ;D. If that happend - the alternative is you put the battery in the Side of the frame....


Quote:
....

And about the bat, doesnt it hit the ground for example going over the concrete edge at the parking area (i always have to do that when I come to my work place)?


Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Finnishbobber on 05/14/08 at 06:26:57


4F6D7A65696657446D67080 wrote:
what do you do?! i think you need a cross bike to use the parking area  ;D. If that happend - the alternative is you put the battery in the Side of the frame....


Quote:
....

And about the bat, doesnt it hit the ground for example going over the concrete edge at the parking area (i always have to do that when I come to my work place)?



No no, nothing like that  ;D, its just when i come to work, we have this parking area that is surrounded by those small 10 cm / 4 inch high conrete things and i park my bike in the "inner yard" of our office so then i have to SLOWLY drive my bike over that concrete edge.

Just yesterday I was doing my new batteryholder and was wondering where to mount it except in the original place. Looks better when the middle area is empty.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/14/08 at 10:29:49

You guys are great!

.. and thank you for all the Welcomes!

I am super excited about the future and all the possibilities with this bike.  Another has popped up on craigslist here in Seattle and I am going to check it out this weekend.

I am adding all these suggestions and mods recos in one big list.  I can't thank you all enough!

I will post more later.

Marina  ;D

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/14/08 at 11:16:02

Leo - I have that image on my desktop. What a beauty and very inspiring!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Max_Morley on 05/14/08 at 11:30:42

B-i-L's battery is mounted in a fore/aft configuration where the air box was. PO used parts of the old battery box and I added a plate to the bottom for better support after he bought it. It is back between the side covers which are still on the bike with one of Lancer's carbs (I believe w/ cone filter) just hanging in the air looks retro for sure. PO added a auto parts store filter to the crankcase filter that goes in the airbox and it sits behind the RH side cover and seems to work fine. Max

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by demin on 05/14/08 at 17:19:49

Put the battery on top of the exhaust bracket that hangs down.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by steely on 05/14/08 at 19:46:00


77767E7A7D130 wrote:
Put the battery on top of the exhaust bracket that hangs down.


But then I can't put the regulator/rectifier there...

Maybe if I mount it underneath...

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by vargas on 05/14/08 at 23:15:35

i don't think the seat is that bad. when i ride at 45+ mph i slide my rump on the hump and lean into the wind . the wind holds me up i get less back strain.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/15/08 at 00:15:08


6179796C6F7164647A160 wrote:
Leo - I have that image on my desktop. What a beauty and very inspiring!


Thanks a lot marina! The next one will be extraordinary - The Basics: highnecker, springer, 21 front, 240 and diskbrakes back, very low,  ;) ...for the new Desktop image ;-)

Ciao Leo

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Finnishbobber on 05/15/08 at 00:36:22


1032253A3639081B3238570 wrote:
[quote author=6179796C6F7164647A160 link=1210610973/30#33 date=1210788962]Leo - I have that image on my desktop. What a beauty and very inspiring!


Thanks a lot marina! The next one will be extraordinary - The Basics: highnecker, springer, 21 front, 240 and diskbrakes back, very low,  ;) ...for the new Desktop image ;-)

Ciao Leo[/quote]


So Leo, do you have more pictures of your bike? It would be cool to see what it looks like at the moment!  :)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Slag on 05/16/08 at 12:36:42

Sorry Marina, I think I just bought the bike you're talking about.

And I just want to say that this forum was a HUGE part in my buying decision. It's great to have a community like this!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 05/16/08 at 19:15:00


2F212F2B212A23272E30420 wrote:
Sorry Marina, I think I just bought the bike you're talking about.

And I just want to say that this forum was a HUGE part in my buying decision. It's great to have a community like this!


hey slag - which one did you buy? there are 4 or 5 in seattle craigslist right now.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 05/19/08 at 03:44:06

Hi sorry for the late answer. I'll try to put a picture on the post as attachment, but the systems answer the picture is bigger than 250kb. I'm wondering because the pictures have 120kb.  :-/  :-?  :'(

I will try it over a imageboard and copy the link.

Stay tuned....Leo  8-)


0B27322F2735460 wrote:
[quote author=1032253A3639081B3238570 link=1210610973/30#38 date=1210835708][quote author=6179796C6F7164647A160 link=1210610973/30#33 date=1210788962]Leo - I have that image on my desktop. What a beauty and very inspiring!


Thanks a lot marina! The next one will be extraordinary - The Basics: highnecker, springer, 21 front, 240 and diskbrakes back, very low,  ;) ...for the new Desktop image ;-)

Ciao Leo[/quote]


So Leo, do you have more pictures of your bike? It would be cool to see what it looks like at the moment!  :)[/quote]

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by northshore_paul on 05/19/08 at 12:35:18

Marina,
You'll love the ride, the simplicity of the bike, the mpg's, the ability to customize it yourself and not just add chrome or buy off the shelf items to install. I have had a HD Electra Glide, BMW's, Guzzi's, Honda'a, Yamaha'a  ;)and a Kawasaki Voyager. This is the most fun to ride and I will repeat what they all have said, it is in the SEAT. Get it the way you are comfortable and you will love riding the bike and have fun doing it cheaply. Paul

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Finnishbobber on 05/28/08 at 01:07:45


6C4E59464A4574674E442B0 wrote:
Hi sorry for the late answer. I'll try to put a picture on the post as attachment, but the systems answer the picture is bigger than 250kb. I'm wondering because the pictures have 120kb.  :-/  :-?  :'(

I will try it over a imageboard and copy the link.

Stay tuned....Leo  8-)

[quote author=0B27322F2735460 link=1210610973/30#39 date=1210836982][quote author=1032253A3639081B3238570 link=1210610973/30#38 date=1210835708][quote author=6179796C6F7164647A160 link=1210610973/30#33 date=1210788962]Leo - I have that image on my desktop. What a beauty and very inspiring!


Thanks a lot marina! The next one will be extraordinary - The Basics: highnecker, springer, 21 front, 240 and diskbrakes back, very low,  ;) ...for the new Desktop image ;-)

Ciao Leo[/quote]


So Leo, do you have more pictures of your bike? It would be cool to see what it looks like at the moment!  :)[/quote]
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Any luck??  :D

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by marina on 06/13/08 at 09:08:37

bump

=]

so i went to my first BRC last night.  what fun!  saturday is ride/class and again on sun - ride/class.

i will keep you posted!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by gregp on 06/13/08 at 21:49:26

Marina
I think you'll enjoy the bike.  I'm a new rider, and I mostly commute, but a couple of 200 mile trips under my belt, both backroad and interstate.  Didn't really notice the vibration under 70mph, but the butt did rebel, especially on that first long ride.  My biggest problem with the higher speed is the wind blast, i.e. trying to hang on at 70+ on the interstate.  Prefer the backroads, 55 mph seems to be most comfortable, don't notice any vibration there.

The guys I ride with have HD, Kawi, and a Guzzi.  They usually ask me why I didn't bring the other half of my engine along.  My stock answer is that I don't need the other half, and they'd get better mileage if they left theirs at home too.

Good luck, and enjoy!

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Paladin. on 06/14/08 at 07:29:43


5B4E595B4C3C0 wrote:
.... Didn't really notice the vibration under 70mph, but the butt did rebel, especially on that first long ride.  My biggest problem with the higher speed is the wind blast, i.e. trying to hang on at 70+ on the interstate. ...

The little nine inch National Cycle Flyscreen will reduce that wind pressure to where 75 mph is comfortable, does not block the wind in the face freedom.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Jay on 06/14/08 at 22:43:54

Posted by: gregp
"The guys I ride with have HD, Kawi, and a Guzzi.  They usually ask me why I didn't bring the other half of my engine along.  My stock answer is that I don't need the other half, and they'd get better mileage if they left theirs at home too."

LOVE IT! I am so totally gonna steal that answer next time I'm asked what happened to the rest of my bike.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ride safe,
Jay

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 10/30/08 at 03:03:29


Quote:
Leo, do you happen to have more pictures of that bike???



ok - answer to an old thread but never forgot  8-)...

http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C30%5Cbikepics-1466161-full.jpg
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C30%5Cbikepics-1466160-full.jpg
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C30%5Cbikepics-1466159-full.jpg
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C30%5Cbikepics-1466165-full.jpg
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C30%5Cbikepics-1466158-full.jpg

Ciao Leo

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Toymaker on 10/30/08 at 09:17:32

Leo........very very nice. By the way, what angle rake is on the fork?

Nice little bad@ss bike for sure! (actually not so little)

Toymaker  :)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by serowbot on 10/30/08 at 09:36:14

That's a great looking bike!..  What is the gas tank from?

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Jack_650 on 10/30/08 at 09:56:26

Marina, I'm here to tell you that these bikes can do it all. If you are willing to go with them. I've done a few 4,400 mile round trips on mine with never a let down on the road. That includes some 650-700 mile days. As you'll see from the pix I've made quite a few changes, but nothing to the basic bike mechanics.

I've run the interstate with the Harley guys headed to Sturgis, until the noise got to be too much. I've hauled my 180 lbs. along with another 100 lbs. or so of camping gear on every type of road in the eastern half of the country. It just keeps going and going so well I was thinking of painting a pink bunny on the tank, except who knows what would happen the next time I rode through Texas.

Some mods you'll want to consider if you plan doing the long runs are:

A better seat-Mines a V-Star saddle type, no springs YET
   and maybe a gel pad as well
A bigger or aux gas tank
A goodly sized windscreen-Mine's a NationalCycle
   full fairing type screen
Floorboards
One of the hardened cam chains (if still available)
   or the modified chain adjuster

This was my first ever bike and I've found little reason to "upgrade" to something different. I wanted to be able to go anywhere anytime like the old days before gas went through the roof. Now I can do it still.

http://bikepics.com/members/jazzcarter/00savage/

Jack

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by German_Leo on 10/31/08 at 02:55:44

[quote author=6A565B6A5147535F555B4C3E0 link=1210610973/45#50 date=1225383452]Leo........very very nice. By the way, what angle rake is on the fork?

Nice little bad@ss bike for sure! (actually not so little)
Hi  Toymaker / Serowbot

Thanx a lot  8-) - to your questions:
the fork have 13° rake and the triple tree is aloy. The manufacture is Fischer. The same come from AME - with a steel triple tree.

The tank is a modified 16l 650-Dragstar tank  :) But it's not so easy to applique - no "plug and ride".

The special for me is the 170/ 80 -15 Metzeler Backtire with original beltdrive (no chain).

regards Leo

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by sluggo on 10/31/08 at 07:57:34


5577607F737C4D5E777D120 wrote:
[quote author=6A565B6A5147535F555B4C3E0 link=1210610973/45#50 date=1225383452]Leo........very very nice. By the way, what angle rake is on the fork?

Nice little bad@ss bike for sure! (actually not so little)
Hi  Toymaker / Serowbot

Thanx a lot  8-) - to your questions:
the fork have 13° rake and the triple tree is aloy. The manufacture is Fischer. The same come from AME - with a steel triple tree.

The tank is a modified 16l 650-Dragstar tank  :) But it's not so easy to applique - no "plug and ride".

The special for me is the 170/ 80 -15 Metzeler Backtire with original beltdrive (no chain).

regards Leo


welcome, we've been waitn' for ya.   enjoy sluggo


Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by DJM on 10/31/08 at 08:44:00


7F6A7D7F68180 wrote:
The guys I ride with have HD, Kawi, and a Guzzi.  They usually ask me why I didn't bring the other half of my engine along.  My stock answer is that I don't need the other half, and they'd get better mileage if they left theirs at home too.


You could also tell the Harley guys that your engine is reliable enough that you don't have to haul around a spare cylinder everywhere like they do.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by serowbot on 10/31/08 at 09:27:54


57595E130 wrote:
[quote author=7F6A7D7F68180 link=1210610973/45#46 date=1213418966]You could also tell the Harley guys that your engine is reliable enough that you don't have to haul around a spare cylinder everywhere like they do.


I might use that one!   ;)

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/08 at 10:08:29

It was a twin, but you used HD bolts last time and it fell off.
Funny thing when it fell off.... it ran better.

Title: Re: That single cylinder has the gang pointing fin
Post by Duane on 10/31/08 at 10:35:26

That's funny, about the MPG though, the twins usally get better interstate miles than our single, but we get them in town. :'(

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