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Message started by mikemoses on 04/28/08 at 19:07:43

Title: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ride?!
Post by mikemoses on 04/28/08 at 19:07:43

Thanks for all the previous responses to my questions.
NOW I REALLY NEED HELP!
Today, on a shakedown ride, I found fresh oil dripping from the top of the engine at the chrome looking cover. It wasn't just a stain, it was an active drip! I have to get this fixed ASAP! I am leaving on a trip to Helen, Georgia from Tennessee tomorrow. Any suggestions? Am I doomed?
Please help!

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/08 at 19:10:36

Take the tank off, take off the chrome covers (toss over shoulder) and search down that leak.  It could be a loose bolt.

BTW, when you go tomorrow... take lots of oil.   [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by mikemoses on 04/28/08 at 19:13:35

Oh man, I am worried now...
How hard is it to pull the tank??? :-/

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Oldfeller on 04/28/08 at 19:14:20

Spray the warm engine down with engine cleaner and hose it off good.  Now spot were the oil leak starts.  Is it by the exhaust pipe bolt up where you can see the acorn nut hidden "inside things" a bit?   Look directly above the acorn nut for a rubber seal -- does the rubber seal move a bit if pushed very lightly?

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1099227295/0#0

This is the very nicely done fix-it thread .....  (MANY thanks to Savage Greg for all his good fix-it contributions, he is very good at this sort of stuff.  He's saved my bacon more'n once with his good advice and tips)

http://suzukisavage.com/images/uploaded/CylinderNut01web.jpg

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by mikemoses on 04/28/08 at 19:23:28

Good grief...
This bike has less than 7000 miles on it.
I have to make this trip! :-/

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by mikemoses on 04/28/08 at 20:16:01

I think the leak is on top of the engine, not at that location. The drip is seeping from the area between the chrome cover and engine when the bike is on the kickstand after the engine is warm.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/08 at 21:53:51


6367656B63617D6B7D0E0 wrote:
Oh man, I am worried now...
How hard is it to pull the tank??? :-/

Remove riders seat, 1 bolt on each side.
To remove tank, 2 bolts at rear of tank, right side, pull vac hose on carb, unscrew speedo cable ( don't lose the washer in the bottom of the cable, you can't get a replacement without buying a new bike ).  Left side, pull main feed to carb.  Push tank forward while lifting rear ( keep fingers crossed ) and shift the rear of the tank to the left ( if you can get the petcock over the frame uncross fingers, if you can't remove petcock, drain tank 1st )  There's a cable you have to pull and california models have a vent line.  Lift tank off, and don't drop it.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Reelthing on 04/29/08 at 07:03:38

If you didn't get it fixed take a rag and a couple quarts of oil - it may make a bit of a mess but unlikely to be leaking enough to cause any real harm - check the oil sight glass every time you fill up with fuel before you restart the bike and wipe it down - could be one on the head cover bolt seals.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by T Mack 1 on 04/29/08 at 10:06:39

Wonder how he did.........   :-?

w/7000 miles on the bike, it could be something as simple as the dealer didn't tighted the valve cover after they did the vlave check/adjustment....

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Reelthing on 04/29/08 at 13:57:44

maybe just not tight the rear bolt has a bit of oil pressure on it - not much as the these engines don't make much - that is the oil passage to the head cover - if that little seal on the bolt wasn't you could get a pretty messy leak I'd think - not enough to hurt anything if you kept up with the oil level  

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/01/08 at 17:24:28

Also, if the crankcase has been overfilled with oil, it can blow up through the speedo cable and make a mess.  Just a thought.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by mikemoses on 05/01/08 at 18:18:44

RIDE REPORT

I made the trip to Helen, Georgia from Stevenson, Alabama as planned. I took plenty of rags and 2 quarts of oil in case I had issues. At every fuel stop I had to wipe down the left side of the engine, from the chrome head cover, extending to the drive belt cover. I kept checking the oil, and the level stayed constant. It was more of an annoyance more than anything, and when it sat for extended amounts of time, none was on the ground.

The comment about the overfilled oil and the valve cover make sense to me now. The bike had recent service. Maybe I should change the oil tomorrow? I do have 2 qts. of Honda 10w40 saved from the trip. If I do it, how much will it hold? Any suggestions?

Now, for those of you interested in the Helen trip. It was awesome!
Our route took us thorugh Ellijay, through mountains and curves, and there was no traffic or congestion. The ride is challenging, but fun. I haven't ridden alot in 15 years, and I made it fine. (The forgiveness of the Savage played a huge role) My brother has a Can-Am Spyder (Look it up, if you don't know) and I kept up with him on the Savage. He got tons of questions on that bike. We made a trip to Brasstown Bald before we left, too, and had a massage at the Mandala spa. (Awesome)The town of Helen is very nice. We stayed at The Castle Inn, and it was nice and clean, and convenient to all of the shops. This time of year is "dead" for this area, so if you go, many taverns and restaurants won't be open, but there are NO crowds. I really enjoyed it, and I spoke with a veteran rider today, and he told me that he would put the North Georgia mountains up against any location for bike riders. It really is beautiful, and all of the people are friendly. I'll be back, but I 'll make it in a car with the family. 8-)

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by T Mack 1 on 05/01/08 at 19:27:04

Mike,
   You made it ... Cool  8-)

Cam-Am Spyder....  the local Suzuki dealer is also Cam-AM dealer and they have a picture on their home page.  

Since you just had service done,  I suggest you call the shop and see if they will correct the problem that they might have created.

As for oil level, it is suppose to be checked with the bike level.   Take a look.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by steely on 05/02/08 at 20:03:20

Those two quarts you have will just about fill it up.  The bike is supposed to take 4.1 quarts, if I recall correctly.  Glad to hear you had a great trip!

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 05/03/08 at 08:05:05

Steely, I'm still on my first cup of the morning, so maybe I missed something in this thread.  
Quote:
Those two quarts you have will just about fill it up.  The bike is supposed to take 4.1 quarts, if I recall correctly.  Glad to hear you had a great trip!


Shouldn't that be 2.1 qt?  Sorry to butt in.  Don't want him to overfill again.

Jason

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by Kropatchek on 05/03/08 at 09:23:41

Put 2 liters in, position the bike straight up. Fill to the upper mark in the looking glass. After first ride check the oil-level again adn adjust level as required.
The oilleak might come from the decompression mechanisme. There's a shaft with an oil seal behind the spring, happened before.

Title: Re: Help! Oil leak on engine top? Going on long ri
Post by steely on 05/04/08 at 08:25:53


2E28292B36302B2A440 wrote:
Steely, I'm still on my first cup of the morning, so maybe I missed something in this thread.  
Quote:
Those two quarts you have will just about fill it up.  The bike is supposed to take 4.1 quarts, if I recall correctly.  Glad to hear you had a great trip!


Shouldn't that be 2.1 qt?  Sorry to butt in.  Don't want him to overfill again.



Jason


Ummm, yeah, it should.  That was the beer typing.  Sorry!  2.1 is the magic number, 2.1.

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