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Message started by NikoruWiriamu on 04/28/08 at 11:26:06

Title: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 04/28/08 at 11:26:06

Omg, I don't know enough about bikes. Of course, my Savage has problems running a lot. If it's too cold, or wet, she wants to die. Well, I was riding home after work the other day, and since traffic was slow and she was having problems running, I decided to turn it off. When I tried to turn it back on, it wouldn't start! The engine wouldn't even crank.

I pulled over to a parking lot..or should I say, pushed over..and decided to run with the bike. It sorta came on, but died shortly afterwards. What's wrong?? Does it need a new spark plug? :'(

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/08 at 11:33:40

So you were pushing the bike over and the lights came on?

Sounds like you got a loose plug. There are several. And you may have to take the tank off to get to them.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Robertomoe on 04/28/08 at 11:38:19

what is your idle speed?

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 04/28/08 at 11:45:05

Well, when I turn the bike to "ON" the lights turn on, and that's fine.

I'm not sure about my idle speed. Sometimes I have to turn it up and down depending on how crappy she's running >.<

After getting it to run, I usually turn it back down. I have an aftermarket exhaust on it, the Supertrapp, and I had it jetted. The idiots at the shop I took it to said it would fix the problem with how it runs, and of course it didn't. It also leaks gas..and not just a few drops, but it leaks a LOT of gas when it starts to run rough. :-[

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 04/29/08 at 12:23:57

I was just thinking..does anyone think it may be the starter??

I just hope it's not.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 04/29/08 at 13:16:03

you... need... to... be... more... descriptive... you're... talking... to... a... bunch... of... men... who... don't... quite... speak... wimminish.

You said you got it to run then it died, so unless you push started it, the starter works.

Did you get a baffle for your supertrapp?

Did you look for any loose connections?

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Toymaker on 04/29/08 at 13:47:42

ok......try this...put the fuel petcock to PRI. Then start it. It sounds like the petcock is leaking big time and making it run poorly.

If that seems to fix the problem, then you will either replace the petcock or make it a manual one like the one in the technical area. :)

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by eanon on 04/29/08 at 14:29:52

Leaking gas, huh? Where's it leaking from??? Have you opened up the carb recently? Maybe the guys at the shop didn't put it back together quite right..... Start simple, though. Check the gas line!

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by steely on 04/29/08 at 15:57:36

[quote author=092E2C283532102E352E262A32470 link=1209407167/0#3 date=1209408305]The idiots at the shop I took it to said it would fix the problem with how it runs, and of course it didn't. It also leaks gas..and not just a few drops, but it leaks a LOT of gas when it starts to run rough. :-[/quote]

Hmmmm, that sounds like it could either be a faulty petcock or an improperly sealing needle and seat. I have had the same problem on my '82 before. One of the middle carbs liked to load up and dump fuel out the overflow tube. Next time it starts running rough and leaking, try pulling over, shutting off the engine, and tapping the carb bowl with something hard (a screwdriver handle works a treat). If you can immediately restart and not have the overflow problem, it means that there is some crap in the carb bowl and you need to clean it out and consider a filter between the tank and carb.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Toymaker on 04/29/08 at 16:11:23

I put a little filter inline between the tank and carb. Man, there was a bit of cr@p coming through...glad I stopped it. :o

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 04/30/08 at 04:54:16

:o

Oh..mah..gawd...what?

Hah. Darn me for buying a used bike.

Let me try being a little more descriptive of what happened. I was riding my bike home after work, and it was running hard..meaning it kept wanting to die on me. What I usually do is rev to keep it running, as horrible as it might sound. Instead of revving so much, I decided to turn the bike off at a red light, since traffic was horrid. When I turned my key back on, the bike wouldn't even turn over when I pressed the start button.

My bike doesn't leak gas all the time, just during the times that it's running hard, such as that instance..and when it is cold outside.

Good grief. I don't even know what the petcock is. :-[
My boyfriends dad knows a little about bikes, and he did mention something about possibly flooding the carbs.

Quote:

^_^

Thanks verslagen1. Heh. When it did die, since it wouldn't start back up..or even turn over, my boyfriend and his dad push it fast enough to actually start it, but it didn't stay on for long. It died after a few seconds of being on.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 04/30/08 at 04:57:44

31353A3B3A540 wrote:

Leaking gas, huh? Where's it leaking from??? Have you opened up the carb recently? Maybe the guys at the shop didn't put it back together quite right..... Start simple, though. Check the gas line!

I'm really not sure where the exact location is. I had a guy at a bike shop in Winter Haven, FL jet my carbs for my supertrapp. Since they had to rebuild my transmission, I figured it would be best to jet it. Man, if they messed up my bike..I'm going to be so angry.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Reelthing on 04/30/08 at 06:30:26

Need to figure out the gas leak now - depending on what is not correct - you can ruin the engine with gas in the oil and crankcase or do the Nicolas Cage ghost rider trick.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Reelthing on 04/30/08 at 08:38:38

All good suggestions - unless you told him it was leaking a lot of gas when it wouldn't start.

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by Reelthing on 04/30/08 at 08:43:58

[quote author=163133372A2D0F312A3139352D580 link=1209407167/0#3 date=1209408305] It also leaks gas..and not just a few drops, but it leaks a LOT of gas when it starts to run rough. :-[/quote]

Is the above statement ture? If so nothing else matters

Title: Re: Bike won't start!!!
Post by NikoruWiriamu on 05/01/08 at 09:59:20

Okay. Update. I did add some gas additive to it, and drained the carbs, then primed it, etc.

I started up my bike. Yay, it turned over! Unfortunately, it really wouldn't stay started, like it was cold.

I realized that it wasn't really the carbs. It was having a hard time starting because it would start sometimes, but not all the time..and I had to press really hard on the start button. My battery also had no fluids in it, so I added some water since I had no acid, then I charged it over night.

More progress to come, when I get off of work.

[edit]Okay. Here's my update!!
I'm very happy to say, I successfully charged my battery, took off my tank, without draining it, put in a new spark plug, and replaced all of my hoses with no problem. However, I can't believe there isn't one store near me that carries "jesus keepers". >:(
I Plugged everything back in this morning, and started it up..results??

YAY! She's running! :D I'm giving the battery one more good charge tonight to see if I have any problems with the start again. I didn't have a problem with my bike staying running after I put everything back together and replaced the hoses. I also tightened down a LOT of loose screws that hold together the air..breather...tube thing. :-?

Needless to say, I'm very happy about the progress of my bike, and I'm more happy about doing it myself. Next weekend, I will be replacing my stock seat, and possibly replacing my stock rear shocks with Progressives. Does anyone know what shocks I will need to get?[/edit]