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Title: Oil level Post by keithert on 04/04/08 at 05:25:12 The bike I am looking at has it's oil level at the top line of the good zone when resting on the sidestand. I'm pretty sure it should be checked with the bike upright. If so the bike has a bit too much oil. I'm going to do a full oil change with synthetic when I get the bike home, but should I empty out a bit before riding the bike 30 miles? Or is that amount not enough to matter? |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by skrapiron on 04/04/08 at 06:06:03 If you see oil in the glass, while its resting on the side stand, the crank case is WAY overfilled. The oil should come up to the top of the 'good' zone only when it is held vertical. You can damage the engine by riding with the crank case overfilled. Drain it ALL out and refill it to the correct level. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by Reelthing on 04/04/08 at 06:08:40 its has quite a bit of too much oil - would sure be better to just change it mostly right there - only take 5 minutes then you know for sure what is in it |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by keithert on 04/04/08 at 08:11:48 6F585851495554535A3D0 wrote:
I just don't want the mess of changing the filter in someones driveway and don't want to do a full change without a new filter. I'll probably bleed some out and do the full change at home. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/08 at 20:32:42 If this was my hassle I would clean around the drain plug real well & pull it, draining into a clean container. I would reinstall the plug after it had drained "my best guess" of how much it needed to lose. If I drained too much, I would dump some back in. Take lots of rags & use nitrile gloves. I tie a rag aroound my arm when I am working like this, to keep oil from running down my arm to my elbow. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by thumperclone on 04/04/08 at 20:33:52 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/08 at 20:42:26 In this case I would do it room temp. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/08 at 20:47:56 Yoiu know, when an angine is cold, the iol has all, I mean ALL run down into the sump. So, it doesnt drain from the sump as well, but, all I gotta do is let it drain longer. I am not a service man at a dealership, making a paycheck, so I dont mind popping the drain out, p[ulling the filter, cleaning that oil out, popping a new filter in, I can lean the bike over & let it drain. I haven't ever drained an engine cold & torn it down & compared that to draining an engine warmed up & tore it down, to see which has the most "Old Oil" left in it, BUT, I would venture a guess that the difference in negligible. Who has the scoop to convince me I should drain it warm? |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by verslagen1 on 04/04/08 at 21:41:09 One to many of sluggo's brownies, yeh jog? If oil is all that you want drain it cold when it's 15w when it's hot, it's 40. But when it's hot, all of the crap is floating in the oil, rather than sunk to the bottom after it's sat awhile and got cold. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/08 at 04:03:05 Errrm,, ahhh, uhhhh, weelll,, actuallly,, ya see, I didnt GET no danged brownie, so I have Nothing to blame my mistake on. Crud, ehh? Floating while oil is hot, but settling to the sump when cold crud.. very sneaky crud. Man, I just pretty much blew it,, yea, 15 w would drain cold better thaN warm, which gets me thnking. Since all the oil, & its attendant "crud" as Verslagen calls it, has drained to the sump, would draining the oil, installing the plug & dumping a pint O diesel or liquid Berrymans in & sloshing it around a bit be a decent idea? |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by rigidchop on 04/05/08 at 05:05:43 if your just gonna take a little off the top there is no need to warm it up. that would just be silly. personally that is all i would do, till i got it home to change it proper like. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by T Mack 1 on 04/05/08 at 08:41:15 515F534E525F484E3A0 wrote:
keithert, Yes, oil level is checked with bike level.... or closed to level. A std 2x4 is almost the right size, makes the bike just off level. I use a Rough cut 2x4 oak stud from an old house. It's almost level and is at the point where I keep an eye on it so it does not tip over. Next, being overfilled shouldn't do damage, but could be messy. To qualify my comment, .... I've had the engine apart. Heck, that's how I got it, a $500 eBay special. I split the case to make sure it was clean. It's a little surpirsing how simple the engine is. http://www.users.fast.net/~tommack/100_1946.JPG You most likely won't blow any oil seals since it's a low oil pressure engine. What will happen is you will get a bunch more "splash". That means more oil vapor in the case so it will come out the breather. That can eventually get messy. You should be able to drive it home...... might be good to drain a tiny bit though.... Hey..... you sound more & more that you're leaning to the savage..... ;) |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by verslagen1 on 04/05/08 at 09:06:49 My question would be did they overfill it or did gas get in there? |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/08 at 09:40:25 If I put gasoline in oil & stir, will it seperate if I leave it alone? I know it is different viscosities, but it will stay a homogenous mix, right? So, even if oil is drained from the bottom, it will be just as poluted as the top oil in the sump? Should be able to smell it if thers much gas, if not, a match at 1/4 inch should do the trick, Huh? Make sure thats a LONG stick on that match, dont scorch a finger. |
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Title: Re: Oil level Post by sluggo on 04/05/08 at 10:37:03 4749455844495E582C0 wrote:
i've changed oil without replacing filter now and then no problem as long as you don't do that to often. |
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