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Message started by maxreps on 04/02/08 at 08:03:43

Title: TOP Speed
Post by maxreps on 04/02/08 at 08:03:43

Not everyone can or would want to but... given the room to accelerate through all gears then hold the throttle wide open for a minimum 10 seconds. What is your top speed ever on relatively level ground ? (downhill obviously would skew results a bit depending on the grade)

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Post by serowbot on 04/02/08 at 09:31:59

Might take more than 10 secs to reach top speed, I'd say close to 90mph, 95 on a downhill, thin air, tucked, with a tailwind. You can do the ton if drive off a cliff.

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Post by skrapiron on 04/02/08 at 10:48:14

It does the speedlimit for the interstate and still has throttle left over. Thats fast enough for me.

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Post by Strafford_Guy on 04/02/08 at 11:15:41

I would have to agree with skrapiron. I have driven on the highway at 70 with plenty of throttle left. Not sure of the top speed. I just know that it will go when I want it too. ;D

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Post by vroom1776 on 04/02/08 at 11:37:16

tell ya what, I'm afraid to find out on mine... boy mine shakes like crazy at any gear at WOT. these things don't have rev limiters, so... I've had mine up to 7,7.5 k rpms in several different gears... scary, even on the freeway... those dashed lines get smaller and smaller

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Post by verslagen1 on 04/02/08 at 11:47:14

86 uphill
90 on the flat is where my rev limiter kick in.

Want to go faster? wrong bike.

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Post by KenGLong on 04/02/08 at 12:13:54

7D5A5C4F4848415C4A71695B572E0 wrote:

I would have to agree with skrapiron. I have driven on the highway at 70 with plenty of throttle left. Not sure of the top speed. I just know that it will go when I want it too. ;D

Speed limits are 75 out here. Most people do 80. My Savage could do 85 tops on a good day, 75-80 any other day.

Ken in Albuquerque

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Post by Hutch on 04/02/08 at 12:25:14

6B656E676C6F6E67000 wrote:

[quote author=7D5A5C4F4848415C4A71695B572E0 link=1207148623/0#3 date=1207160141]I would have to agree with skrapiron. I have driven on the highway at 70 with plenty of throttle left. Not sure of the top speed. I just know that it will go when I want it too. ;D

Speed limits are 75 out here. Most people do 80. My Savage could do 85 tops on a good day, 75-80 any other day.

Ken in Albuquerque[/quote]I have a 14% chain conversion,with all the carb, filter and pipe mods for more top end, and hit about 88 laying on the tank. It will run the expressway, but it is still running the motor pretty hard at 75mph. I don't like running at peak rpm all day.Mine runs effortlessly at 60-65mph, but that will get you run over from behind, on the interstate, in the state of Michigan. The bike is really to light to play around semi's with. Hutch

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Post by Ed L. on 04/02/08 at 12:58:44

Topped out at 92mph twice tucked behind a small wind screen on a looong straight away. Don't think it can reach the ton with the way it is geared and carburated, the engine just runs out of steam. Flat out hard acceleration and WOT for 10 seconds might get me over 80 or at least close to it which is plenty fast enough for a light bike. Don't think they have any rev limiters on the engine except for a low performance carb and restricted exhaust. Still is nice to test the limits of the bike ;)

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Post by furious70 on 04/02/08 at 13:15:18

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Don't think they have any rev limiters on the engine except for a low performance carb

yup, just like the 1bbl on a 318 mopar. I put a brick on the gas pedal in park and couldn't blow one up, it just sat there and ran.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/08 at 13:25:26

Owners manual says it's okay to run it 100 MPH as soon as the break in is done, so, obviously, it's run 100. If you wanna argue with that, you just take it up with that Japanese guy who wrote the book. :)

Mine has been real close to 90 on the speedo, but it takes a while & it requires the temp/humidity to be just right.

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by maxreps on 04/02/08 at 13:57:05

ok, thanks guys I was wondering because I've had mine to 92 twice but it is "done" at that point and I was wondering if there was a problem somewhere because it has very nice power all through normal speeds so I figured it'd kick a C note at least. But I am 6' 220 and was sitting upright behind the shield. So it's not like I was the most areodynamic thing around.

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Post by feelinjunky on 04/02/08 at 15:52:24

It depends on your weight A LOT. I's 6'6" and 280 lbs. My 2001 Savage can BARELY hit 80 mph with WOT. I've only driven that fast once on a LONG straight away...just wanted to see how fast the thing would go.

In case you're wondering, why would such a big guy like me drive a small Savage? The truth is I don't feel cramped on the bike at all and don't want to get anything bigger because it will burn more fuel.

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by skrapiron on 04/02/08 at 16:29:45

With all due respect, Hutch. I'll let the traffic run as fast as they want to go. That doesn't mean I have to follow suit...

If the speed limit is 65, I'll do 65. If its 70, I'll do 70. I'm in no hurry to get anywhere and I have no need for speeding tickets to rais my insurance rates.

If you CHOOSE to obey the speed limit, then the Savage does just fine. If you feel you have to ride like a bat out of hell, then you need a different bike. Simple as that.

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Post by skrapiron on 04/02/08 at 16:35:18

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Speed limits are 75 out here. Most people do 80. My Savage could do 85 tops on a good day, 75-80 any other day.

Ken in Albuquerque

Ken, it doesn't help that your riding at altitudes approaching one mile, either.... Just like people, engines run out of breath too...

In your case, the stock 145 main jet may actually perform better than the bigger ones do for us at lower elevation. This is where carb tuning becomes more of an art, than a science.

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Post by vroom1776 on 04/02/08 at 17:07:11

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Post by vtail on 04/02/08 at 17:31:27

almost 100 indicated,92.99 on Sigma, 6400 rpm on ENM tach :)
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/11/03/bikepics-1076610-800.jpg

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by Hutch on 04/02/08 at 17:44:40

657D6477667F647978160 wrote:

With all respect Skrapiron, you would be a statistic if you rode 70mph on the interstate in Michigan. It would get you run over from behind, or cause an accident from all the people darting out into the fast lane to pass you. People here drive nuts on the freeway. A freind of mine is a police officer, and told me that they won't pull anyone over unless they are doing 15mph over the limit on the interstate. That is 85mph. They prefer to pick on people that restrict the flow of traffic. I don't like to drive that fast all the time on a bike, but it is better than getting killed for lack of speed or running a bike at high RPM for miles. I am not trying to start an arguement, and meant no disrespect. I am just telling you what it is like in Michigan. Hutch

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by Banger on 04/02/08 at 17:47:22

I hit an indicated 95 on a long straight once, tucked in as best as I could be with the buckhorns on my old '97. I had done a fair amount of chrome removal (less dead weight), had a more or less straight pipe, and the bigger main jet on the carb. Just dunno if I could've trusted the speedo to be 100% accurate.

Probably didn't hurt that I only weighed about 160 lbs at the time, either. ::)

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Post by Ed L. on 04/02/08 at 19:14:45

I've been wondering if it would be possible to turn the right side piece of sheet metal, you know the one over the air box door into a air scoop and then remove the air box door. wouldn't do much around town but would think it will help the top end. Just set the top end of the carb up a little rich to take advantage of the extra air. Humm it's something that's been on my mind ;)

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Post by Reelthing on 04/02/08 at 19:57:54

using a bs40 carb or the one off the outboard?

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Post by sluggo on 04/02/08 at 21:21:29

677F6675647D667B7A140 wrote:

i'm in the process right now trying to get it tuned. i lost the topend when i opened the intake. i opened the Trapp and added a six more disks. now to drop a size in the jet

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by Jonny_Chicago on 04/02/08 at 21:36:54

85 on flat service no cars around. I once went 90 last summer. I was feeling b@llsy. I don't think no one needs to travel over 70 on a motorcycle just my opinion though. I don't even go 70 in my car!

Title: Re: TOP Speed
Post by Cory on 04/02/08 at 21:55:56

I normally only cruise 65 to 70 but i had it up to 97 one time and could prolly still go a little faster but i was afraid i'd pass a trooper so i backed her back down .

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Post by T Mack 1 on 04/03/08 at 10:05:29

The other day it got up to 70 Deg's here (east-side PA), so took the bike out after work. On a whime I hopped on the interstate (I-78). Bike got to around 75-78 mph , with about 3/4 throttle going up a hill, .....well what we call hills here.

Note, East-side Pa traffic doesn't really let you go WOT, which is ok because when I got it to about 78 the rain-grooves got a little wavey for about 100 yards :o ......

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Post by Banger on 04/03/08 at 14:51:23

00791935373F65540 wrote:

The little LS650 tends to get squirrelly pretty easily at speed. That was the biggest thing that scared me when I did my one real speed run on my Zook. Well, other than the chance of meeting a trooper in the other lane. ;)

Touched the ton on my BMW K75 the other day. Never again. She ain't got much in the way of brakes (then again, none of them do!) and my eyesight isn't as good as I once thought it was. Mostly I'm a docile cruiser, and with the speedo on BMWs being out of whack as they're known to be, I'll do an indicated 65 in a 65 and watch people give me what ol' DW called "The Olivia Newton John move."

You know....blew-by-you. ::)

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Post by bill67 on 04/03/08 at 15:17:52

Banger your right it does get pretty squirrelly.

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Post by steely on 04/03/08 at 16:02:37

I have had mine up to 80-85 on the superslab for miles at a time. Never had any problems. That is about all she had though. Mine has a MAC pipe and stock jetting and filter. I had it up to 92 at one point, but I was moving slightly downhill with a bit of a tailwind.

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Post by Banger on 04/03/08 at 16:15:42

56514040495C250 wrote:

You remind me when you say "stock filter," that I had a K&N when I did that speed run.

I was able to cruise the interstate at 80 without much incident, but trucks would blow me around too much for my liking. That, and the bike's relatively small frame size (I'm 6'3") was why I traded for the Beemer, since I mostly use a cycle for 70-plus commuting on the superslabs.

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Post by Gary On A Savage on 04/03/08 at 19:59:23

Had mine up to 87 (on the bicycle speedo which is acurate) on I-5 in Central California. WOT and wishin' I had more. The traffic was so fast I was getting passed like I was standing still. The thought going through my head was "This is nuts! I must be out of my mind!" The wind from the trucks was massive, but actually not that unmanagable once you got used to it. I weighed in at 185 and had a full windshield and saddlebags which drug it down in speed.

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Post by Hutch on 04/04/08 at 07:47:15

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Post by T Mack 1 on 04/04/08 at 07:49:08

Last fall I was on the other super slab here (US-22) which has no rain grooves. There was a world of difference........

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Post by Gary On A Savage on 04/04/08 at 11:12:59

716C6D7A71190 wrote:

[quote author=575142496F5F5E516F435146515755300 link=1207148623/15#29 date=1207277963]Had mine up to 87 (on the bicycle speedo which is acurate) on I-5 in Central California. WOT and wishin' I had more. The traffic was so fast I was getting passed like I was standing still. The thought going through my head was "This is nuts! I must be out of my mind!" The wind from the trucks was massive, but actually not that unmanagable once you got used to it. I weighed in at 185 and had a full windshield and saddlebags which drug it down in speed.

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Post by Hutch on 04/04/08 at 11:37:17

5553404B6D5D5C536D415344535557320 wrote:

[quote author=716C6D7A71190 link=1207148623/30#30 date=1207320435][quote author=575142496F5F5E516F435146515755300 link=1207148623/15#29 date=1207277963]Had mine up to 87 (on the bicycle speedo which is acurate) on I-5 in Central California. WOT and wishin' I had more. The traffic was so fast I was getting passed like I was standing still. The thought going through my head was "This is nuts! I must be out of my mind!" The wind from the trucks was massive, but actually not that unmanagable once you got used to it. I weighed in at 185 and had a full windshield and saddlebags which drug it down in speed.

Finally, someone that lives in a state like mine, and feels the same way I do on the "I" roads. I been riding the interestate for 43 years and never felt as unsafe riding on the Interstate as I do on the Savage. It is nuts being a road hazard. I won't run a bike at top rpm just to not get run over from behind, so the Savage is used for back roads. Hutch
[/quote]

Hutch, that stretch of road runs through the "barren" area of Central California, from Sacramento to south of Bakersfield where it meets Hiway 99. It's the trucker/traveler route to bypass the main towns on Hiway 99 and goes through almost no cities. It's a well known fact that you do not drive that stretch of road UNLESS you can exceed the posted speed limit of 70. For the rest of the state, I've had no problems staying or exceeding the traffic on the Interstates. But that stretch of road is a definite "challenge". (It's also a road know for it's fatalities)[/quote] I-75 is the only interstate in Michigan that runs from the top of Michigan, all the way to Florida. It is 2 miles from my house and the easiest way to get to any city north or south. We also have some "I" roads running east and west. They are full of the same crazies. The semi speed is clearly marked 55mph. Since the semis do 70 mph, the cars just tack on the extra 15 and do 80-85mph. You either keep up with the cars at 80-85, or get blown around by the semis doing 70 in the slow lane. No fun on a Savage. Hutch