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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 03/27/08 at 04:27:39

Title: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/27/08 at 04:27:39

So, do I take a quilt to lay it on & get the rear wheel off to take it & have it repaired? Drain enough fuel into a gas can so it won't run out of the tank? Easier to get the wheel off with the pulley down, so the brake guts can be pulled out?DAANG, I wonder which side the nut is on? If the nut is on the pulley side, then brake side up will be easier since the axle will pull up & out. I will, of course, take a can of fix a flat & see if I can get the bike home. Since she did ride it a little flat, I doubt it will work, but I can hope, ehh? Any hints are appreciated, since I have never intentionally laid a bike over & have always righted one as soon as possible, I guess pulling the plug & spinning it to make sure I dont have a load of oil in the cylinder before I start it would be a good idea?

Should I just pull the tank, since it will come off without draining it?

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/27/08 at 05:17:18

Personally, if I'm gonna lay her over to work on her, I'm pullin' the tank first.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by T Mack 1 on 03/27/08 at 05:50:14

Find a friend, neighbor or relative with a pick-up (You're in TX, I know at least one of the neighbors has one) then offer a case of beer to help you get it home.....

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by vroom1776 on 03/27/08 at 06:18:21

worst case, rent a truck from home depot or uhaul.  

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/27/08 at 06:55:35

It's definitely going on its side before I rent anything. I think one of the girls friends is gonna be there after she gets off work, with a can O Fix a Flat. He has a P/u. I dont have tie downs, but I am pretty fair with a rope. If I have to buy a tie down or two( not that mnuch good rope around) or maybe buy more rope, its cheap. Lots cheaper than tie downs & tons more uses. Actually, I find Bull is sitting in a parking lot not even 10 minutes from home.At normal speeds. With a bike maybe not tied down for a cross country trip, slower speeds are called for, roads arent so good.I hope the fix a flat gets it, if not, then a board will get it in the truck. Lowes is less than a mile away if I need rope.

The wife ran 170 MB of download & all I am allowed is 200 for the day, so I can only stop in & see whats up a few times today.. Daggummed You tube stuff anyway!

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Kenk on 03/27/08 at 07:23:14

Loosen everything up put a jack under right rear frame in front of swing arm and jack up. Cycle should set on kickstand, jack and front wheel. you can tie off front brake if it makes you feel better. Have someone watch bike while you get tire fixed or put a concrete block under it

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Onederer on 03/27/08 at 07:31:35

Was riding the dirt bike in BFE alone, and got a flat. I had the tools to remove the wheel but nothing else. Found a short log, and sat the bike on that, removed the wheel and carried it five miles till I reached some pavement. Town was still 15 miles away, and it seemed no one was gonna stop to ask a dirty,sweaty,wheel carrying guy if he needed a ride. Finally got a ride into town. The next morning I bought a new tire,tube,and rim strip. After I got home and mounted the tire, I had a nice neighbor in a P/U take me out to the bike. I installed the wheel and rode the bike home.

Now I carry and extra tube,air pump, tire irons and other necessary tire repair tools. Flats are inevitable, disstres because of them is optional.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by sluggo on 03/27/08 at 10:40:58


726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
The wife ran 170 MB of download & all I am allowed is 200 for the day, so I can only stop in & see whats up a few times today.. Daggummed You tube stuff anyway!



why the restriction... ya cheep or something? ;D ;D 8-)

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by sluggo on 03/27/08 at 10:43:44


44656E6F6E796E790B0 wrote:
. Found a short log, and sat the bike on that, removed the wheel and carried it five miles till I reached some pavement.


me i've used my helmet to get the bike up.. ya do what ya got to do.

it's easier to get a ride walking with a wheel in hand, than just standing there, if ya walk sooner or later you'll get where your going.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/08 at 03:28:02


534C5547474F200 wrote:
[quote author=726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 link=1206617260/0#4 date=1206626135]
The wife ran 170 MB of download & all I am allowed is 200 for the day, so I can only stop in & see whats up a few times today.. Daggummed You tube stuff anyway!



why the restriction... ya cheep or something? ;D ;D 8-)[/quote]


Yea, Sluggo, cheap, that's it , I tell ya, ya duhhty raat. We pay somewhere around $60.00/month for satellite, since cable isnt available at any price. For another $10.00 we could get another 175 MB, But Sheesh! $840.00 a year, just for the priveledge of coming here & correcting people like YOU?? OHH PLease!




The Fix a Flat didn't, so I called the guy I do all my local bike biz with. I remembered he rents trailers. He will loan me one to run get the bike & haul it to his shop. Then, I'll pop the tank off & lay it over & pull the tire.

NOW, do I need to pull my Big CRank battery? I say no, since it's a gell cell, BUT, NOt wanting to make a mess, figured asking was easier that believiung I KNow.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Reelthing on 03/28/08 at 06:01:43

no need, spill free it is claimed let us know  :)

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/28/08 at 06:02:20

The AGM battery should be fine on its side.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/08 at 06:40:46

Sluggo, I jusr reread my reply. I trust you know I was just goofing. In black & white, no tone or inflection, it could come across snotty,, it wasnt meant to be..

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Reelthing on 03/28/08 at 06:43:37

you go get that bike?

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/28/08 at 12:50:29

My wife & I went & borrowed the trailer from the bike shop, normally, $30.00/day rental, he let me take it to Houston for $20.00/day last year. Pulled the seat & tank & left side cover & the electronics under it. Rounded up a cinder block & folded the carpet padding( foam) I had taken with me on top of the block. Layed the bike over( actually, had to stand the block up some to get the frame on top of it, then dropped them over together).I had already loosened the axle nut till it was handy & it was set to slide out on the exhaust side. It comes apart nicely laying over like that, I was surprised. It even went back easily, very easy, in fact. I think having it blocked up on the cinderblock made a big difference. It was threatening rain, sprinkled lightly, just enough to help find a higher gear.But,.., Here's the kicker. I bought the tire from this guy & paid $30.00 to have it mounted & balanced, even tho I bought it from him, which really didnt sit all that well with me at the time, But, he dod Loan the trailer, & sold me a tube for just shy of $16.00( Yikes!) but, charged no labor to install that tube. I paid with a $20.00 & told them to put the rest in their shop's coffeee fund.
All in all, I spent around $10.00 for tiedowns & $20.00 for the fixin job. The fix-a-flat wasnt paid for by me AND to be fair, wasnt FixaFlat brand. Was some el cheapo I wouldnt have bought, but I wasnt there, so,, grrrr, owell,, the deal is done, it went well. AND I had a Nice Ride home, after I put gas in it, which, By The Way, the little bit of gas I put in today cost more than what it cost me to FILL My 62 Chebby up!

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/28/08 at 13:03:44

Worked out pretty well then.  Good.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Reelthing on 03/28/08 at 13:06:32


4C5355524F4879497941535F14260 wrote:
By The Way, the little bit of gas I put in today cost more than what it cost me to FILL My 62 Chebby up!

in '62!

glad to hear you got it all back together and home

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/29/08 at 08:14:19

Guys, ( colloquialism, not gender specific) I am SOOOO sore! But, the whole experience left me smiling. Yea, sounds crazy, had a flat & had to work on it & it was kinda hard, BUT, I came away smiling & had a good ride, kinda misting/sprinkling some, no sunglasses needed, overcast but warm enough to be really comfortable, 68 ish, cool enough to allow wearing everything & not burning up. AND, no one tried to run me over!!! Yee Haaawww..

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Rockin_John on 03/29/08 at 20:50:51

Good deal getting it home safe and getting a ride out of the deal too...

My most recent ride started with the Fix-a-Flat in my rear Dunlop 404 giving way as I rode down the block in front of my house. That stuff not only got me home from Fayettville, but did some winter riding on it to with no problems.

I rode back to the house with tire half flat. Had to run my errands on 4 wheels; then called the independent shop about 3-4 miles from the house and arranged to ride it in and out. I aired it up good and took them an NOS Cheng Shin 140/90-15 just in case the Dunlop wasn't fixable. They said it wasn't, due to weather cracking. I think the riding it  that bit down the road and back with it nearly flat broke open the weak spots on the sidewall. End result: I now have a kind of ugly but much safer Cheng Shin on the back of the 99. Tube, rim strip and balance job + labor set me back about $50. I never broke a sweat. Worth every penny.  :)

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/29/08 at 21:13:03

I really am seeing the value of doing the "Tubeless" mod on the rim. You know how easy a fix woulda been with a plug? Not to mention the $15.00 savings on the tube..

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by sluggo on 03/29/08 at 23:10:49


5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
Yea, Sluggo, cheap, that's it , I tell ya, ya duhhty raat. We pay somewhere around $60.00/month for satellite, since cable isnt available at any price. For another $10.00 we could get another 175 MB, But Sheesh! $840.00 a year, just for the priveledge of coming here & correcting people like YOU?? OHH PLease!


roflmfao..... correcting me...... how can that be, i've never made a mistake... :o  8-)  8-)

seriously,  i just got high speed for the first time ever.. wow i added it up and my communications tab is staggering....  but i don't spend alot of money in other places.  not like five grand on hookers cause the wife won't let ya in the back door.  i could never run for office, i'm not a womanizer.   8-)

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by sluggo on 03/29/08 at 23:13:48


4C717D75777041547176701E0 wrote:
Good deal getting it home safe and getting a ride out of the deal too...

My most recent ride started with the Fix-a-Flat in my rear Dunlop 404 giving way as I rode down the block in front of my house. That stuff not only got me home from Fayettville, but did some winter riding on it to with no problems.

I rode back to the house with tire half flat. Had to run my errands on 4 wheels; then called the independent shop about 3-4 miles from the house and arranged to ride it in and out. I aired it up good and took them an NOS Cheng Shin 140/90-15 just in case the Dunlop wasn't fixable. They said it wasn't, due to weather cracking. I think the riding it  that bit down the road and back with it nearly flat broke open the weak spots on the sidewall. End result: I now have a kind of ugly but much safer Cheng Shin on the back of the 99. Tube, rim strip and balance job + labor set me back about $50. I never broke a sweat. Worth every penny.  :)


what no burnout video.... bummer......actually i intend to do it every time, should be before next riding season, i still have lotz o miles left

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Rockin_John on 03/30/08 at 00:24:56


56495042424A250 wrote:
[quote author=4C717D75777041547176701E0 link=1206617260/15#18 date=1206849051]Good deal getting it home safe and getting a ride out of the deal too...

<snip>  End result: I now have a kind of ugly but much safer Cheng Shin on the back of the 99. Tube, rim strip and balance job + labor set me back about $50. I never broke a sweat. Worth every penny.  :)


what no burnout video.... bummer......actually i intend to do it every time, should be before next riding season, i still have lotz o miles left[/quote]

I'd love to have the ability to do video with sound, but priorities haven't allowed me that luxury yet.  :(

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by sluggo on 03/30/08 at 06:13:42


1528242C2E29180D282F29470 wrote:
[quote author=56495042424A250 link=1206617260/15#21 date=1206857628][quote author=4C717D75777041547176701E0 link=1206617260/15#18 date=1206849051]Good deal getting it home safe and getting a ride out of the deal too...

<snip>  End result: I now have a kind of ugly but much safer Cheng Shin on the back of the 99. Tube, rim strip and balance job + labor set me back about $50. I never broke a sweat. Worth every penny.  :)


what no burnout video.... bummer......actually i intend to do it every time, should be before next riding season, i still have lotz o miles left[/quote]

I'd love to have the ability to do video with sound, but priorities haven't allowed me that luxury yet.  :([/quote]

darn those priorities.   :) :)

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Robertomoe on 03/30/08 at 12:12:54

has anyone done the tubeless mod yet?

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Reelthing on 03/30/08 at 12:38:18

not done here yet - but sure thinking on it - some of the dirt bike guys are having pretty good luck with a little silcone sealant on each spoke and covering this with a 1 or 2 inch smaller rim size tube valve stem cut off the tube - after all this cures on the tire goes with a tubless valve - dirt is different than road bikes - they get a flat and fall down - we get a flat at speed and may be pushing up daisies    

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Rockin_John on 03/30/08 at 13:25:30


093E3E372F3332353C5B0 wrote:
not done here yet - but sure thinking on it - some of the dirt bike guys are having pretty good luck with a little silcone sealant on each spoke and covering this with a 1 or 2 inch smaller rim size tube valve stem cut off the tube - after all this cures on the tire goes with a tubless valve - dirt is different than road bikes - they get a flat and fall down - we get a flat at speed and may be pushing up daisies    


Not knowing anyone who has done it, I had considered the possibility of doing just what you said with the silicone and rim strip. And I have had several street bikes with "mag" wheels, and kind of prefer them for ease of cleaning and being naturally well balanced. (I swear my tank slapper on the Norton at over 100mph was simply due to poorly balanced or trued spoke wheels.) But in a way I'm still not comfortable with tubeless tires on a motorcycle; because it is possible to hit something which pops the bead and lets the air out instantly. Might as well have a blowout.

You can hit an object in the road with a spoke wheel and tube tire hard enough to dent the rim and NOT get a flat or go down (I've done it). But with a "mag" wheel and tubeless tire, either the tire will pop, or the wheel will break. Bad news either way.

Since I no longer have much inclination to "break the ton" I don't feel much need for mags or tubeless tires. However, if I were to ever desire another go-fast street bike, I'd probably prefer to have the mags, even though it means not having a tube... Just like many other things, you pick your poison; then hopefully live with your decision.  

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by superior on 03/30/08 at 14:10:36


1D202D2A3D3B2022202A4F0 wrote:
has anyone done the tubeless mod yet?


When I purchased my '86 savage it already had tubeless installed. No problems so far, right now the bike is sitting awaiting a clutch part.

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by Robertomoe on 03/30/08 at 14:40:15

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/tubeless_tire_seal/index.html

$59 a wheel

Title: Re: Kid got a flat on the rear, bike's across town
Post by barry68v10 on 03/31/08 at 15:16:46

Didn't Lancer upgrade to a 16" HD tubeless-type rim?

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