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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Broken Teeth /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1205109579 Message started by Darren on 03/09/08 at 17:39:38 |
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Title: Broken Teeth Post by Darren on 03/09/08 at 17:39:38 Hi, thanks to those members that pointed me in the right direction after I asked about an annoying engine noise last week. I stripped the bike down this weekend and sure enough the cam chain tensioner's plunger was way, way out. I took the opportunity to drop the left side cover off the engine too - and found another problem. The starter clutch driven gear ring (the large one mounted behind the alternator) has 4 missing teeth. One at roughly each quarter circumference of the gear wheel. One tooth was immediately found in the alternator assembly but as yet the other three are awol. Does anyone know what is likely to have caused this problem? The only thing I can add is that the exhaust valve lifter cable was broken when I got the bike - I don't know if thats relevant though. Cheers all |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by thumperclone on 03/09/08 at 22:29:04 maybe..if the timing ckt for the decomp solenoid is out..or the solenoid dont know why the cable broke got a manual?? |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by verslagen1 on 03/09/08 at 22:58:33 Great, you can fix it before it gotcha. Betcha those broken teeth corespond to TDC compression. Without the decompression working properly, there's too much work for the starter and possibly the gears broke instead. Get a manual, get it fixed. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Savage_Rob on 03/10/08 at 05:53:19 If you do a simple search on starter teeth broken or starter teeth or teeth broken, you'll come up with the starter teeth broken (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1137870192) thread which, in turn, leads to the Stop The Backlash Thread (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1094731092) and the Antiklack Plans (http://www.ls650.de/techdocs/antiklack/). |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Reelthing on 03/10/08 at 08:24:16 For sure look into the backlash issue as yours is an '88 |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Darren on 03/10/08 at 11:29:05 Hi all, once again thanks for the input - spot on info again! Seems these bikes have an awful lot more errrr, Character than you might expect from a Japanese motor! I live a stones throw away from one of the largest bike breakers in the UK - they have a complete starter clutch assembly available off the shelf - $150 (£75). Ouch, fixing the camchain, top end oil leak and now this will mean I have spent as much on repairs as I spent on the bike to begin with! I guess the moral of the story is (ebay) buyer beware! Still at least this is one bike that failed to cause any foul language whilst I was doing the spanner monkey impression! Cheers Daz |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by YonuhAdisi on 03/10/08 at 12:13:56 Yes, but the very good things about this bike, is you don't really need to be a master mechanic to work on them and keep them running. And when they are running, you have a LOT of fun with them. But beware, once the modifying bug bites you, it will be almost impossible to stop thinking of the next thing to do with it. ;) :) ;) |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Darren on 03/10/08 at 13:54:11 Funny you should mention that, I have already started thinking about a shortened rear fender, single sprung seat and dropping all the electrics into the airbox. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by thumperclone on 03/10/08 at 14:29:11 7C796A6A7D7668797F7D180 wrote:
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Darren on 03/10/08 at 15:13:59 True - and for a twenty year old Jap bike it really could be a lot worse and a lot less stylish! Daz |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by T Mack 1 on 03/10/08 at 17:07:25 But, now you have a bike that you know what's inside. I bought an ebay special , a 2001 rolling frame with a dead engine(engine in pieces in boxes). Well, when I went to buy a used head, the slavage yard (Breaker??) asked if I wanted to buy the entire '87 engine for $450, or the head for $200. I thought about it and then asked the guy at the yard, what would he do. He looked at me and said, if your planning on keeping the bike, rebuild it, you'll know what you have.... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/11/08 at 11:30:18 What year did this cease to be an issue? The backlash thing. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by verslagen1 on 03/11/08 at 12:17:38 '96 in USA, may have been when went to 5 speed worldwide. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Darren on 03/11/08 at 16:40:06 Yes - Salvage Yard = Breaker and I agree, I now know whats what and whats not with that engine which is a good thing when you are on 2 wheels. My German is pretty poor but I found the thread to their anti backlash discussion an interesting one. Hows about this for a (lo-fi) fix..... junk the decompressor solenoid and attach the valve lifter to a manual control on the bars. Very retro! I fashioned a new solenoid cable out of a spare mountain bike brake cable, the outer would have been plenty long enough to route to the bars. Just a thought - and it would help simplify the wiring for choppers, along with junking the side stand cut out switch and the clutch lever switch! TTFN Daz |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Kropatchek on 03/12/08 at 07:52:00 71746767707B65747270150 wrote:
My German is slightly better. They have 3 solutions to the problem 1) Manual with a cable and the old style valvelifter handle! 2) 12volts via a pushbutton straight to the solenoid ( the Ebi taster)! 3) The Decomodule or anti-backlash device. An electronic means of energizing the solenoid on engine shut-down. This is added to the existing wiring. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Savage_Rob on 03/12/08 at 08:06:17 04011212050E10010705600 wrote:
My German is also poor, but running text (or an entire URL) through an online translator like Babelfish usually gets me close enough to follow along. The times it's difficult are when the author is a poor speller in his/her native tongue. |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Reelthing on 03/12/08 at 10:10:45 786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 wrote:
psst... '95 in the usa |
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Title: Re: Broken Teeth Post by Kropatchek on 03/13/08 at 08:47:35 4C7B7B726A767770791E0 wrote:
psst... '95 in the usa[/quote] 1991 in Europe ;) |
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