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Title: Word to the wise Post by urgeneral43 on 03/06/08 at 15:03:09 Just a warning shout out to all fellow riders, with the nice weather and us all eager to jump on the bike to take a cruise... remember to tighten down the license plate. I headed out of Lexington, ky. today for some scenic horse farm cruise only to return home with out my license losing it somewhere in the middle of nowhere... I just do not want this annoying problem to happen to anyone else. Secure all objects. Ride strong. GReg |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Onederer on 03/06/08 at 15:34:18 I don't know if its common, but the plate on the origional mount, vibrated so much, that the corners of the plate ripped and the plate fell off. So, riders, you might wana look for that too. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by vroom1776 on 03/06/08 at 15:58:19 already dropped a plate of the stock one... last sat... I've had a few vibratae and fall off as well... once rode from denver to salt lake city w/o having a plate... didn't realize it till I got to SLC... also, a good time to check other stuff like lights, oil, BRAKES... and watch out for SAND in the road still! |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Holodeck on 03/06/08 at 16:38:52 I lose one a year. Think maybe I"lll take that advice this year. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by forrest on 03/06/08 at 16:47:44 Weird this thread came up. Two evenings ago I was coming home and suddenly there was a loud metalic buzzing noise from the back of the bike that got more intense when I accelerated. Of course I start thinking worse case. A minute later I had to come to a quick stop when the lady next to me decided she liked my lane better. I let off the clutch and the bike died. Now I'm thinking things have really gone to hell; the sound was a prelude to disaster. I scoot over to the median, got off the bike to to take a look; not that Id really know what WTF I was looking at. I had to smile. The buzzing came from where one of the reflector/bolts that hold the plate on had fallen of. Hence the buzz. The stall? Guess the ol' bike didn't want to go from a stop on a steep grade in 4th gear. Nothing like feeling both stupid and relieved at the same time. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by steely on 03/06/08 at 18:15:17 My license plate has a corner missing as well. I have found that a cheap license plate frame helps keep the thing together and on the bike. I ended up buying one for my gf's Rebel when hers kept getting pulled up into the back wheel and lost a corner. No problems since. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Starlifter on 03/06/08 at 18:27:13 Yes, that's what I use now, a chrome frame. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by YonuhAdisi on 03/06/08 at 19:04:34 Wouldn't be a bad idea to invest in some small lock washers for the plate either. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by T Mack 1 on 03/06/08 at 19:39:20 Folks, Nyloc nuts, that's what they're made for .... most hardware stores carry them in metric sizes too. Don't want to lose that shiny chrome frame..... http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/db/29/1933_1.JPG |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by drharveys on 03/06/08 at 19:40:40 Blue Loc-tite, but only if you use metal license plate screws & bolts. I don't think nylon or plastics like Loc-tite. Blue is the one that will come apart with hand tools -- red requires a torch and is for certain engine parts only! I'm not sure what their competitors color codes are, but you want the one that's medium strength and comes apart with hand tools! Then again, if you're really paranoid (or have way too much time on your hands), you can drill the bolt and safety wire the nut! |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by steely on 03/06/08 at 19:50:33 6C7A60697A7E6D717B080 wrote:
Oh man, I think I should buy stock in loc-tite. I use the blue on most stuff I reassemble. Of course, there is always something to be said for aircraft style safety wires. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by steely on 03/06/08 at 19:55:08 641D7D51535B01300 wrote:
We use nylock nuts at work a lot. I have been arguing for blue loc-tite on anything I design. Unfortunately, I am merely a junior engineer and the head engineer has a personal vendetta against loc-tite (as near as I can figure it). Nylock nuts are great though. I first used them back when I was a skate punk. They work a treat! I may have to put some on my license plate, thanks for the idea! |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Reelthing on 03/06/08 at 20:54:52 Once again being an old geezer I have a story - the first lock nuts we not nyloc but solid steel just smashed a little on one end - I used some lock nuts (a lock nut is a lock nut right?) on some exhaust studs - well these were indeed nylocs - guts melted and they fell off real quick :o |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Cory on 03/06/08 at 21:20:42 i have noticed that aswell on my savage first day i had it i put my tag on it and i tightened pretty good with a socket and wrench and it still came loose only riding about 30 miles . |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by skrapiron on 03/07/08 at 05:16:35 616677777E6B120 wrote:
It sucks being an junior engineer with a better idea.... A few years ago, we designed and built a slim profile network switch that someone had the marvelous idea to use a passive heat sink on the processor and venturi cooling by drawing cold air through the front and exhausting it through the back with a set of 40mm brushless fans. A wonderful idea, very quiet. That is until the front panel openings clog with dirt and goo and the thing overheats and shuts down. When they unveiled the prototype switch in a training class for technicians, I pointed out the potential problem. The lead engineer stated that would not be a problem because the customers would be made aware and would periodically clean the fronts. Besides, the switch was intended to be installed in a 'clean room' so my concerns were moot. Fast forward 13 months. We had deployed about 600 to a major package delivery company. Within a span of 2 weeks, we had trouble calls on 400 of the 600 switches. It turned out my prediction came true. Not only did the front clog with dust, but so did the heat sink, then the rear fans. Much to the engineers surprise, the customer installed the switch under desks, in closets, anywhere they could find room and had a free power plug. On my own, I went out and purchased a bunch of 1U low profile cpu coolers and installed them on my switches. Immediately, the problem went away. Did I get any recognition for my efforts? Did I get a congratulations? Did I even get a hand shake from the engineering team? No... I got written up for putting non-approved hardware into customer machines that could have voided their warranty. I hate engineers..... |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by skatnbnc on 03/07/08 at 10:08:10 I lost and tore two license plates and got fed up. The current one is attached with lock nuts and the plate reinforced with Gorilla glue. I laid the plate face down, squeezed Gorilla glue on it, and let that dry. Then I screwed it on the bike. This type of glue expands as it dries. It provided a thicker plate that now holds up to both vibration and no more tearing. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by T Mack 1 on 03/07/08 at 11:43:58 6971687B6A736875741A0 wrote:
Engineers design things, Technicians make them work. A "good" engineer will understand his resources and utilize them fully. They will go out on the shop floor or go out to the customers location, look at how things are and then ask questions, why do you do this or do that. Bad engineers tell you how things work and how you will use it and design it that way. They will go to the location and start designing right away, no observations... Bad Engineers then become managers....... Oh yea..... I've been told engineers make bad managers..... Hmmmmm...... Back to the subject, Locking nuts were crimped metal or altered threads, but they had a short life as each time you removed them they tried to go back to origianl uncrimpled unaltered state. First nylon locking nuts had a hole drillled into the side and a slug of plastic inserted. Nice idea, but the angle of the plastic and size , it didn't last long. The Nyloc's also don't last if used in applications of where you are constantly removing them. But for vibration aplications they're great. Oh yea.... they don't like heat ..... on a side note, I had a set where they had bake-lite instead of nylon, but the bake-lite wasn't flexible enough so they were "use once & throw away". |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by BOWDIER on 03/07/08 at 11:53:32 mine fell off last year also, lucking it was in my sub division and I heard it hit the ground, and my plate is alos started to crack on each side, mybe I'll try that chrome holder ideal. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Ed L. on 03/07/08 at 12:13:32 Blob a little silicon sealer on the back of the plate where the mounting hole is and use nylon lock nuts and washers. The silicon helps absorb the vibration and helps keep the plate from cracking. That along with a licence plate frame will keep everything together. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by Rockin_John on 03/07/08 at 12:15:13 Both of my Savages are sporting tags with rips on the corners at the moment. Pretty obvious by now that we have identified another "common failure mode" of the Savage/S40; or at least the license plates attached to them! :D But then I've had similar problems with most of the motorcycles I've owned; because the vast majority that weren't dirt bikes were still "shakers" like the SR500 and XS650 Yamaha bikes. I've only had a couple of smooth multi-cylinder bikes, and don't remember having this problem with them. |
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Title: Re: Word to the wise Post by bill67 on 03/07/08 at 12:37:28 Iv's never had that trouble i uses plastic bolts |
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