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Message started by Oldfeller on 02/26/08 at 03:42:26

Title: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ......
Post by Oldfeller on 02/26/08 at 03:42:26

Count your blessings, Savage people.  

Not only do you have OE parts, you have improvement parts and detailed pictorial how to's on how to fix the relatively FEW Savage defects that exist -- you also have the real living experts actually participating daily that will answer your questions.  

(yeah, Greg still counts as a very useful answer as he does give out detailed good info once he gets past his "check search" reminder -- he's here, he's responsive and he is informational)

People say the Savage is a simple bike -- it was also well designed to be ROBUST both electrically and mechanically (only exception noted is the cam chain tensioner system).

That's ONE (1) major defect that is well covered, understood and documented.  Yamaha viragos have at least 3-4 major areas to foul up on you, parts are scarce, dealers won't work on a bike past 10 years old (as Yamaha drops parts support on them) and the on line experts (who never apparently owned a camera) have departed the building and are not in evidence anymore.

Count your blessings Savage people.

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Post by LANCER on 02/26/08 at 04:42:31

AMEN

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Robertomoe on 02/26/08 at 11:30:02

I must agree, I've never been more happy owning anything which may require maintenance cause you savage folks know what you're doing, I mean hell, we even have our own store where people make custom parts

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Post by thumperclone on 02/26/08 at 17:34:43

maybe reelthing needs a new boat anchor or can create a small offshore reef wiht your virago.... ::)

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Post by Oldfeller on 02/27/08 at 14:41:16

What in the world are you talking about, boat anchor?

My non-OE company-supported Flying Purple People Eater shall rise up again, snarl and bite off all those errant typing fingers what said such a thing.

She shall be missing all her PC correct (but totally nonfunctional) exhaust pulse valve powered active pollution control systems and curl around the cylinders chrome piping.  She shall have multiple non-standard extra electrical grounding points and she shall have two solid copper billets where her spark plug RF suppressor gizmos used to be.

She shall have custom circuitry that bypasses certain "avoidable energy drains" on her recalibrated battery charging systems.  She shall have two new style Iridium low voltage firing spark plugs to give RED BULL wings to her poor old aching coils.

She shall have custom mixed touch up paint filling in all her little whoopie marks on tank and fenders to exactly match her faded Ponderous Purple Pulchritude.

She shall be missing all five of her major mud dauber nests and the all the multitude of perverted previous owner's tape and bubble gum wiring repairs.  She shall have a multitude of cleaned and refreshed plug-in males and tighted-up females, all eager to mate together again.

She shall have adjusted valves and pressure tested piston rings.  New oil and new oil filter.  She shall have her shaft drive sup new gear stuff such as that never even existed in her virgin youth.

And she shall eventually roar out, and race forward to approach the magical ton again, using all the down & dirty modern magics of electrical cheats and mods mated to an oversized rear tire.

For she actually has a Title now, clean and clear & taxes paid -- new plates with insurance to match.  She is a 14 year old obsolete "legal beagle" miracle bike.

And she shall forever more be called a CHALLENGE, one worthy of the effort.


<g>


Oldfeller

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by thumperclone on 02/27/08 at 18:36:37

:o

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Oldfeller on 02/28/08 at 03:09:17

it's called a winter time project bike .....

One ya gotta have faith for.

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by thumperclone on 02/28/08 at 07:38:03

so its a love/hate relationship???

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Oldfeller on 02/28/08 at 21:50:28

depends if the ungrateful b!tch refuses to start after I finally finish fixing her

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Post by Oldfeller on 03/02/08 at 18:22:40

She's a purple sweetheart, cranked right on up for me.  So it's a love relationship for now.

Now we'll see about some of those minor cosmetic issues ....

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Post by steely on 03/02/08 at 19:01:08

Cool, glad to hear it.  I would rather have cosmetic issues than mechanical ones.  Much easier to ignore. ;D

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Post by Oldfeller on 03/03/08 at 16:24:08

Ton report -- Flying Purple People Eater  (14 year old XV 535 Virago)

Wearing a small windshield (half shield) I revved her up to 95 fairly quickly several times before the RPM cut out began to work.  Said electronics were being fooled a bit by removal of resistance in the sparking circuit and were allowing a few extra RPM (used low resistance easy firing iridium plugs which didn't exist back when the bike was designed, removed all RF noise inhibitor resistors from the spark plug caps and provided for somewhat easier breathing on the air filter).

Tucked in tight behind the half shield and went for a downhill speed run.  95 came quick, then she slowly started crreeeping up, 97, 98, 99 .... I looked down at 102 then the air blast suddenly pulled my face shield up all the way and I rolled off the throttle right quick-like.

Bike ran just fine all the way home, had to apologize to the old girl for soiling her seat like that (you try being all tucked in and WHAM!! full on air blast in the face at ton speeds and see if you don't spot your drawers a bit.  Pulls your eyelids open at the edges, it does).

life is good,


Oldfeller


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Post by Reelthing on 03/03/08 at 17:55:24

if you see a piston rod hit the ground let me know - wind as its been lately could use a little more weight on the bottom

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Oldfeller on 03/03/08 at 21:42:56

Yamaha is notoriously conservative on their RPM limits -- people have been pushing their rev limiters on these bikes for quite a while now.  Electronics and starter gearing will go to the crapper on you, but the base mechanicals have been sound for 20 years on these bikes.

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Reelthing on 03/04/08 at 04:54:32

hope so - I've been hitting the rev limiter on this 200cc too often- it's geared so low need to either speed shift it all the time or just leave it in 3rd/4th/5th - I believe you can walk beside it wot in 1st  

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by T Mack 1 on 03/04/08 at 06:04:23


0334343D2539383F36510 wrote:
hope so - I've been hitting the rev limiter on this 200cc too often- it's geared so low need to either speed shift it all the time or just leave it in 3rd/4th/5th - I believe you can walk beside it wot in 1st  


Isn't it designed for off road too.....  1st should be to go up steep hills with the body up on the pegs, hanging over the handlebars.
;D

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Reelthing on 03/04/08 at 08:23:24

you bet - had the thing on a fresh wind blown sand dune the other night - hard to walk up it - the fat tire through a rooster tail and crawled right along - gotta chase down a sealed o-ring chain soon as I bet this sand and salt are gonna eat the stock chain pretty fast

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Post by greyhead51 on 03/04/08 at 18:32:37

only problem i have is "why are there no after market parts for the savage"? is it because it's the runt of the litter or what?

God bless...greyhead51

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by verslagen1 on 03/04/08 at 18:43:58

there are aftermarket parts for the savage.

but because there's not a huge number of savage owners buying up high dollar bling bling, there's not much interest to provide.

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Gary On A Savage on 03/04/08 at 23:56:46


33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
there are aftermarket parts for the savage.

but because there's not a huge number of savage owners buying up high dollar bling bling, there's not much interest to provide.


Harley makes quite a few "after-market" savage parts  ;)

Title: Re: You don't know how lucky you are, boys (2) ...
Post by Oldfeller on 03/05/08 at 03:33:11

You know, I don't think there is anything we haven't found off another bike that we actually wanted.  Harley, Suzuki, we've pillaged them all at one point or another.

Think about it, even our chain conversions are stock parts off another bike.

We excel in clever parts hunting, that's what we do.

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Post by thumperclone on 03/05/08 at 17:27:39


5271797B787171786F1D0 wrote:
You know, I don't think there is anything we haven't found off another bike that we actually wanted.  Harley, Suzuki, we've pillaged them all at one point or another.

Think about it, even our chain conversions are stock parts off another bike.

We excel in clever parts hunting, that's what we do.

yup im a dumpster diver from way back !!

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