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Message started by Savage13 on 02/20/08 at 21:47:43

Title: Wheels
Post by Savage13 on 02/20/08 at 21:47:43

I hopefully get to pick up my 05 s40 within the next 3 weeks, gettin my cash right. Only problem i have is the wheels, every pic i've seen posted has the same wire factory wheels, are there no aftermarkets that will fit our lovely thumpers? I'd love to have a set of Savages from Picard, but can't even find a referance to anyone using any type of aftermarket wheels on a s40 :'(

http://www.pickardusa.com/gallery/outdoorpics/outdoorpics.html#

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by Onederer on 02/21/08 at 05:57:38

In about a month I should have mine done. I'm using early GS wheels. Already had the front one on for a test fit, then bead blasted, and painted black, about done with it. I just picked up the rear yesterday, and am going to test fit soon. Front is 19" like the stocker, rear is a 16", which should work fine. I cross referanced a few parts a while back, and found some wheels that won't take much to fit. The rear uses the same shoes as the savage, and takes the same kind of drive hub, so the pulley swap is straight foward. Since these use tubless tires, a flat fix on the road will be quicker. Before this, I thought about laceing up some aluminum rims to the stock hubs, but thats about as far as I got with that. I never looked for aluminum hoops that would work, but there're probally are some.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/21/08 at 14:07:18

Lookin' forward to seein' pics of that Onederer! 8-)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by Onederer on 02/21/08 at 16:10:16

Trial fit, one step closer. Mainly just sorting spacer length, then its a go.
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/02/21/bikepics-1191742-full.jpg

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by rigidchop on 02/21/08 at 17:38:24

now yer makin me think about stripping this gs i have. paint the centers black and polish the lip. i probably wont do it though, too many projects so little money.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by Educatedredneck on 02/21/08 at 22:05:49

Looking forward to seeing the whole setup!! Looks great!!! :)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by azjay on 02/22/08 at 05:10:54

excellent!

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 02/25/08 at 20:52:53

Trial fit of a GS650.

http://hometown.aol.com/camchainclub/images/dscn0237-small.jpg

yes the disk is on the wrong side.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by sluggo on 02/25/08 at 22:56:44

mags, windshields, radios, ect. all that stuff belongs on a cage not a bike. :o 8-)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by smokin_blue on 02/27/08 at 19:23:29

312235342B2620222976470 wrote:

Trial fit of a GS650.

yes the disk is on the wrong side.

aw come on ....front brakes are soooo over rated anyway ;)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 02/27/08 at 20:10:49

Not having one would remove 90% of my braking ability.

As I only use the rears when I want someone to know that I'm there and I'm braking. ;D

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by Onederer on 02/27/08 at 23:27:32

verslagen, I like that style of GS wheel, but I could'nt find a rear that style with drum brakes. I wanted some thing easy, and did'nt feel like fabing up parts for rear disc. If you mount those, and do a rear disc conversion, that would be sweet.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 02/28/08 at 09:08:18

53727978796E796E1C0 wrote:

That is my plan.

Currently working on (or should I say want to work on) adapter for savage disk to gs wheel (6 bolt pattern). I'm nearing needing to replace the front tire and would like to complete in time for this. The wheel otherwise is a close match. Need to double check the spacers.

Rear wheel will be more fun. The wheel I have is for shaft drive and disk brake. The dampers are of a different design, the dampers are set in holes and engage with the drive plate by studs. I'll need to make my own pulley adapter. A flat plate with a spacer for the pulley.

BTW: when I bought this set of wheels, there were several with chain drive and drum brake that may have been a direct swap.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/28/08 at 14:08:12

Wow!! Am really likin' those mag wheels! Hope you get the braking issues straightened out ... which brings a potentially "stupid" question ... pic showing front wheel with brake disc on the wrong side ... could that be just flipped over so the disc is on the left and tire re-mounted with directional rotation towards front? If it would though, I'm sure you would've already done it :)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 02/28/08 at 14:26:33

abbalutely!

I installed it backwards to check the spacing of the axial and I don't think there's anything directional about these brakes. Anyone?

The disk itself is quite a bit thicker than the savage so not compatible. And offsets are different.

Gonna have to install it again soon to take a measurement for the adapter. some have suggested mounting the gs brakes on the savage, not that I'm completely opposed to that (as I snagged the matching caliper for a $1) just not sure which way I should go.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by steely on 02/28/08 at 15:19:20

445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:

Gonna have to install it again soon to take a measurement for the adapter. some have suggested mounting the gs brakes on the savage, not that I'm completely opposed to that (as I snagged the matching caliper for a $1) just not sure which way I should go.

I would go with the GS brakes. My GS stops quite a bit quicker than my Savage, even though it is almost twice as heavy. Having dual front disks may have something to do with that, though.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by rigidchop on 02/28/08 at 15:22:37

i think that they are directional, and yours should go the other way. will be right when you flip it around. my gs has a drum rear. but it is a 750. shoild be pretty easy to find wheels like that at any bike salvage yard.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by toddlamp8 on 06/28/08 at 21:47:39

Interested to know what happened with this.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 06/28/08 at 23:10:40

The gs650 disk is .25 thick (or so) and the gs450 is .200 (or so), close enough to the savage not to worry about. I got the gs450 disk and cut it down to match the savage disk. Using 2 1.25 or 1.28 (i'm no where near my notes going on memmory) spacers on the axle to center the wheel between the forks. Comparing the new disk from the savage disk, I needed to space the disk out .28 from the wheel. Spacers are available in .25 and .31 thick. Got a set of both, tried the .31 and the caliper couldn't find a center that didn't rub on the disk. put on the .25 and it was fine. Been running for a couple of months this way with no issues.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by mick on 06/29/08 at 02:34:00

6E5B4C4C475A5F6D5F485F595B3E0 wrote:

That wouldn't work because the wheel would be upside down ;)

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by toddlamp8 on 06/30/08 at 12:30:08

2F3C2B2A35383E3C3768590 wrote:

What are you doing about the rear wheel?

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by verslagen1 on 06/30/08 at 21:35:10

sitting on the rear wheel untill I can find time to mess with it.
also have a new tire that I intend to wear out before I swap it out.
so far the intent is to make an adapter plate with the same config as our stock wheel. Or have some tabs welded in there.

Title: Re: Wheels
Post by Starzuki on 07/04/08 at 22:55:00

Having some experience with chopper projects in the past, conversions to different wheelsets aren't impossible. But you have to keep in mind what's being changed.

The wheelsets initially show on the link at the top of this post (and many others) are typically for harley or harley aftermarket. Using these sets you'll be needing to swap more than just the wheels. You're dealing with the driveline, braking and not to mention spacing and fitment which can be very trying.

Long story short, if you're going to be making the swap of any wheelsets, it should be a winter project. With some determination, forethought and just plain luck, you can make just about anything you want fit. Its really just a matter of how much money you have and how much time you're willing to take. PM me if you want more details.