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Message started by BOWDIER on 01/29/08 at 13:09:44

Title: 2 Questions
Post by BOWDIER on 01/29/08 at 13:09:44

I have 2 questions 1. what replacement battery do you like, mine seems to be dead, filled an empty cell or two, charged it, ran all over town and now it does not have any power to crank it today. and can you jump start your bike like you can with your car by going down hill and popping the clutch, will something like that work on the Savage.

thanks 8-)

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by joebothehobo on 01/29/08 at 13:15:50

for question 2, you definitely can and I have. If hills are lacking, you can even get 2 (preferably 3) guys to push you up to about 15+ mph where you can pop the clutch and start it in 2nd or 3rd gear.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by KwakNut on 01/29/08 at 13:32:17

7F7A70777A617D707D7A777A150 wrote:

If hills are lacking, you can even get 2 (preferably 3) guys to push you up to about 15+ mph where you can pop the clutch and start it in 2nd or 3rd gear.

Or if you're on your own, just put the bike in gear with the clutch pulled in and the ignition all on and ready to go, then push and run like hell (the Savage is very light so you’ll get her flying along), throw your leg over her at full speed, stand on the pegs, then just as you let the clutch out, slam your backside down onto the seat to ram the rear tyre onto the tarmac for extra traction.

Works every time on every bike I’ve ever had (and I’ve had about 40). (That is, except for one - the Kawasaki ZX12-R – second gear capable of 115 is too tall to spin it over fast enough, and first gear – despite still being tall with an 86mph redline, just locks up the tyre even when I jump up 2 feet over the seat then slam my 235lb butt down when I let the clutch out. Guess that’s what you get from a 1200cc lump with 13.5:1 compression).

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by eanon on 01/29/08 at 13:37:34

if you only have two people and no hills, another, not so safe way that i've done it, is to lash the front of the bike to the bumper of a car and pull it. You need some really strong rope, i used climbing webbing. If you attempt this please be very careful for the obvious reasons. As for the battery, I guess previous owner of my thumper got tired messing with it,(problems starting, checking water levels, etc) so it got replaced with a dry cell. can't remember what brand, but no problems starting since!

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by vtail on 01/29/08 at 14:08:59

Pull bike in gear backwards up against the compression, pull clutch in, put in 2nd gear and go fast forward and jump on and then down on the bike (to make rear tire get good grip) right after letting the cluch out. The reason for pulling backward up against the compressin is so that the crank can devellop some rotational speed before the next compression occurs. :D

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by verslagen1 on 01/29/08 at 15:11:25

Here's another way to do a push start if your battery isn't completely dead.

Push your bike up to speed, clutch in, 2nd or 3rd if you can get it up to 15mph, 1st if you're like me, a bit gimpy and start wheasing after 10 cause it takes half a block to get it there.

Hop on the bike, push the starter button to get the engine turning, let out the clutch to start the engine. If you have all the interlocks (stock configuration) the starter will automatically stop turning when you let out the clutch. Just stop pushing the button before you pull in the clutch.

As I said, 1st works for me. And if the engine is still trying to run evenly, leave the clutch engaged to keep the engine going until smoothes out. ;D

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by rigidchop on 01/29/08 at 15:38:07

tying a rope to a car really isnt a good idea. when you slam on the clutch the driver will still be pulling you and may drag you down. or during the same scenario, you will gas it and rearend the car in front of you. ive done both.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by gj859 on 01/29/08 at 15:44:05

4C5759575A5D56514E3E0 wrote:

That fella who was looking for an honest man can put out his light and go to bed now.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by BOWDIER on 01/29/08 at 17:35:17

thanks I will try it again, I tried it in first and seemed to just lock up the brakes, didn't start, will try int in 2 or 3. AHave it charged up for now but you never know when you may have to jumb start

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/08 at 15:32:58

232E7C717D440 wrote:

[quote author=4C5759575A5D56514E3E0 link=1201640984/0#6 date=1201649887]tying a rope to a car really isnt a good idea. when you slam on the clutch the driver will still be pulling you and may drag you down. or during the same scenario, you will gas it and rearend the car in front of you. ive done both.

That fella who was looking for an honest man can put out his light and go to bed now.[/quote]

That was Diogenese ( sp?)

WHOAAA Now,, you hadda try that TWICE to decide it wasnt real smart!?? LOL!! Thank YOU, now I can feel a Little better when I remember the things I did more than once that never worked "according to plan"...

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by rigidchop on 01/30/08 at 17:08:44

well once i was the rider and once i was the driver. both times with dirt bikes, still not something i would recommend trying. i was a teenager both times. we would stay up half the night trying to get a bike running for a half hour of fun, before they broke again. and then do it all over again.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/08 at 17:43:59

Sounds like a couple of well directed boys! Excellent, the world would be a better place if we all had our priorities so oriented.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by Soon on 01/30/08 at 18:41:37

LOL ;D you guys are to funny

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by Prophet_10 on 01/31/08 at 07:55:39

2A313F313C3B303728580 wrote:

Wow, I feel 15 again after reading that.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by Savage_Greg on 01/31/08 at 12:38:43

Wow. I've pushed up and down hills, used rope or straps behind a car, and jumped 'em off with another battery, but after reading all this even I'm tired. I think I'd just hop in the car and go buy a battery.

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by eanon on 02/01/08 at 12:13:11

yeah, the rope trick is dangerous, but done carefully, works well. have used this trick at least a half dozen times on my buddy's bike. He always leaves his keys in, lights on. Don't know how he doesn't notice the lights. Lucky he still has his bike. Both players have to pay awful close attention, and yeah, you want a nice long rope so you don't gun it into the back of the tow vehicle. I've tried pushing a bike by myself before, and let me tell ya, it sucked! ;)

Title: Re: 2 Questions
Post by J Mac on 02/02/08 at 23:14:31

I remember pushing my '82 GSX1100GL a few times. It seems to me I put it in 2nd or 3rd gear (not 1st for sure) and then dumped the clutch while I ran with it. It wasn't too difficult for a young man.