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Message started by franch on 01/22/08 at 04:54:36

Title: k&n drop in filter
Post by franch on 01/22/08 at 04:54:36

is it truly a drop in ?
i've read of people drilling out the air filter box or leaving the door off ?
anyway if i buy a k&n and drop it in can i just adjust the pilot screw ?
(i've got the 1/2 spacer and 152.5 main jet)

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by Savage_Greg on 01/22/08 at 05:08:50

In actuality, it's just a "slide in" (from the side) filter :P

If that is your only change, the filter really won't change air flow THAT much, and you won't have to adjust your mixture THAT much.  After all, what goes in still has to go out.

As far as drilling or removing the door...I still don't understand that one...and I don't mean because of the "intended" benefits of better airflow.  I don't know that anyone has ever proven that there is any real improvement from doing that anyway.  Do so if you want.

The biggest benefit for the K&N is that it is reusable forever.

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by vtail on 01/22/08 at 10:13:17

You could take the rubber intake off (Desnorkel) for slightly better airflow and a neat intake sound ;)

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by geo on 01/23/08 at 21:10:23

The K&N goes in just like the stock filter.
When I bought this filter, they didn't include the bracket to hold the filter in place. I had to go back to the dealer a couple times to get it. The installation instructions indicated the bracket was included, so the dealer had to browbeat his supplier to get the bracket.

The K&N will give you a noticeable boost of power at higher engine speeds with the Savage. I noticed the same increase of power when I used a K&N in a Miata I used to own. The K&N improves performance when the engine intake flow demand is high.
I recommend using the K&N for the S40/LS650.
When using a K&N in a car, it may screw up your mass flow sensor with oil. It's a drawback with cars, but not with simple carburated motorcycles.

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by Savage_Greg on 01/23/08 at 21:49:44

Ah.  Another happy K&N filter owner :P

Yeah, pull out the rubber snorkel too.

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by Savage_Greg on 01/23/08 at 21:50:56


7577626A6F030 wrote:
You could take the rubber intake off (Desnorkel) for slightly better airflow and a neat intake sound ;)

Oh, but a pod filter lets you hear it even better.  Neat to hear the intake valves working ;D

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by Onederer on 01/24/08 at 05:47:09

Many pure race machines don't even run a filter, and some only need basic filtering, because max power is the issue. Anything you add to a machine that suposedly increases performance, may also lead to decreased service life. A K&N filter is a race filter, the only thing they are advertised as doing is increasing air flow, and being washable, not being the best filtering media. Prove it to yourself by haveing a oil analyisis done while using the stock filter then one useing the K&N, then you will have undisputable evidence that a K&N filter is best suited for racing and not engine longevity. I used to swear by them, until I learned the dirty little secret. If you want speed that scares you, the Kawasaki ZX14 fits the bill nicely ;)

Title: Re: k&n drop in filter
Post by Gort on 01/24/08 at 06:42:37


5978737273647364160 wrote:
Many pure race machines don't even run a filter, and some only need basic filtering, because max power is the issue. Anything you add to a machine that suposedly increases performance, may also lead to decreased service life. A K&N filter is a race filter, the only thing they are advertised as doing is increasing air flow, and being washable, not being the best filtering media. Prove it to yourself by haveing a oil analyisis done while using the stock filter then one useing the K&N, then you will have undisputable evidence that a K&N filter is best suited for racing and not engine longevity. I used to swear by them, until I learned the dirty little secret. If you want speed that scares you, the Kawasaki ZX14 fits the bill nicely ;)





You're right about the lack of filtration.  Look on the Net at the various independent tests of filters and see for yourself.  A good one is www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm

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