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Message started by grail21 on 01/16/08 at 05:29:31

Title: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 01/16/08 at 05:29:31

Instead up having multiple threads about my chopper build, figured it would be better to start one and use it as an ongoing log, and update it as things progress.

Speaking of progress...
Here's the latest pic with the seat mounted and the electronic tank  & fender mocked in place. I tried to get some exhaust bends to make the intake manifold, but it was Sunday and only thing open was pep boys / autozone. What they had didn't really fit what I was looking for. Next up (after I get back from vacation) is fab'in up the brackets for the e-box and rear motor mount and getting that intake figured out.

Note on photo - the straps and ties I used to mock up the e-box and fender have been photoshopped out. The e-box cover is also photoshopped. Helps me visualize where things are going to go.



Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Hutch on 01/16/08 at 05:40:05

I like the look, can't wait for the finished product.   Hutch

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Savage_Greg on 01/16/08 at 07:54:51

Sometimes Photoshop is the best tool in your box.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by smokin_blue on 01/16/08 at 09:47:13

Lookin good!  I guess my clubman bars would be the anti-bar in comparison to yours  :o

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 01/16/08 at 10:49:49

smokin_blue:
the pic totally make the apes look bigger than they are. they're actually mini-apes, they sit just below my shoulder when i'm on the bike.
but yeah, I guess they're the opposite of clubmans, but not super tall by any means. My next build, whatever it may be, will probably use clubmans or clip ons.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Hutch on 01/16/08 at 12:02:10

http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/10/17/bikepics-1058577-800.jpg   I know what you mean about pics being decieving. Everytime I post a pic of my bike, I get the " my arms don't reach that high" statement. Mine are only 12 inch and run at shirt pocket level.   Hutch  



Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by demin on 01/16/08 at 13:24:14

Niiiiiiiice [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 03/31/08 at 10:26:18

Been awhile since I've updated, here's the latest pic - things are coming along, was able to crank out a lot this weekend...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2376663893_24d710df80_o.jpg

The rear fender support struts are going to change, and this pic is before I welded the ripple pipe end tip to the exhaust. The seat pivot point also needs to change. It's coming along though.

The 90 degree carb manifold is pretty much finished, just needs to 100% secured, my leg position with that there is a bit wonky, it clears, but it's close. I could see my leg bashing into the carb on occasion, so I might change the bend to a 45 to get it away from it a bit more. After I get that done, I'll weld up the bottom plate to the frame that the battery box mounts to. Then I'll probably start working on some of the more mechanical stuff.... I tell ya, not looking forward to wiring this baby.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Hutch on 03/31/08 at 11:03:11

It is coming along nicely. Should be worth the effort, and will definately put a smile of pride on your face with doing it yourself. It has for me for years. Nothing better than knowing your bike from one end to the other, and inside out.   Keep us posted of your progress.  Hutch

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by verslagen1 on 03/31/08 at 11:31:41

I'd put a manual lever on the decomp and leave off the clutch interlock.  So you could just reach down and activate it.

Wiring should be fun, you don't have all of the supid connectors and mismatched wires.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by demin on 03/31/08 at 13:00:10

Lookin' good man 8-).I think there is a chopper wiring diagram in the tech section,only a few wires. ;)

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by steely on 03/31/08 at 15:34:05

That is looking great!  I love the pipe and the e-box placement.  Very nice! [smiley=cool.gif]

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/31/08 at 17:39:51

Whaddya mean"Change the pivot point on the seat"? Are you gonna be able to get the rear of the seat higher relative to the front? Or, is it okay? Looks like I would slide out the back of it. It is a good looking deal, no doubt. I like that exhaust, looks , well, Looks Good!

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 08/04/08 at 06:51:42

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2732131212_dd504e857c.jpg

Update: I know it doesn't look much different, but it is. Finally got some time in the workshop yesterday... finished up the fender supports, finished welding the exhaust (now I just gotta wrap it), worked out some final details on the electronics tank, changed up the seat a bit (new seat hinge & springs), got the throttle/grips/cable on and working, flipped the carb to the left side.

Still a lot more to do....I'm hoping to have it done by the end of the month, but looking at my "still to do" list, that might be a bit too agressive. We'll see.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/04/08 at 06:56:51

I'm wondering how much this bike is going to weigh when you get finished! :-/

Will be nice to see the finished bike 8-)


Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 08/04/08 at 07:04:40

It's pretty light, I can move it around  and lift that back end up off the ground easily, but the hardtail is definitely hefty. It'll be lighter than a stock savage for sure (although it's hard for me to remember, this one hasn't been in stock form in a LONG time), but I don't think it will be a huge difference.

here's one more pic from this weekend.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2731332705_55ba732f2e.jpg

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by YonuhAdisi on 08/04/08 at 13:29:09

I was wondering if you were even still around. Thanks for the update, is definitely looking sharp.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Demin on 08/04/08 at 13:37:15

[smiley=thumbsup.gif] Keep us informed,always likme pics of builds.Looks good[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by Gary On A Savage on 08/04/08 at 15:34:46

Really looking sweet!  I love that custom exhaust.  I was wondering how hard it would be to build a custom one.  And the oil tank really is too cool!...Or is that your "ready supply" of liquids?    ;)

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by blacksheep23 on 08/04/08 at 16:36:38


5E4342555E360 wrote:
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/10/17/bikepics-1058577-800.jpg   I know what you mean about pics being decieving. Everytime I post a pic of my bike, I get the " my arms don't reach that high" statement. Mine are only 12 inch and run at shirt pocket level.   Hutch  


hey do u need to get ur wire extended for that ape hanger?If u do,where u get them at?

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by YonuhAdisi on 08/04/08 at 16:42:52


7F717C7E766E7578786D2F2E1D0 wrote:
[quote author=5E4342555E360 link=1200490172/0#5 date=1200513730]http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/10/17/bikepics-1058577-800.jpg   I know what you mean about pics being decieving. Everytime I post a pic of my bike, I get the " my arms don't reach that high" statement. Mine are only 12 inch and run at shirt pocket level.   Hutch  


hey do u need to get ur wire extended for that ape hanger?If u do,where u get them at?
[/quote]

Mine are ten inch and I had plenty of cable. All I had to do was re-route them a bit. Mine is a 2000 Savage that originally had the pullbacks.

http://a818.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_016f63eff329f9a99a51570267e924c9.jpg

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by blacksheep23 on 08/04/08 at 18:48:03


5167667D60496C617B61080 wrote:
[quote author=7F717C7E766E7578786D2F2E1D0 link=1200490172/15#19 date=1217892998][quote author=5E4342555E360 link=1200490172/0#5 date=1200513730]http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/10/17/bikepics-1058577-800.jpg   I know what you mean about pics being decieving. Everytime I post a pic of my bike, I get the " my arms don't reach that high" statement. Mine are only 12 inch and run at shirt pocket level.   Hutch  


hey do u need to get ur wire extended for that ape hanger?If u do,where u get them at?
[/quote]

Mine are ten inch and I had plenty of cable. All I had to do was re-route them a bit. Mine is a 2000 Savage that originally had the pullbacks.

http://a818.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_016f63eff329f9a99a51570267e924c9.jpg[/quote]

does the newer model has the pullbacks too?
Looks good on u there.Do u replaced the forks too?

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by YonuhAdisi on 08/04/08 at 18:54:46


414F424048504B4646531110230 wrote:
[quote author=5167667D60496C617B61080 link=1200490172/15#20 date=1217893372][quote author=7F717C7E766E7578786D2F2E1D0 link=1200490172/15#19 date=1217892998][quote author=5E4342555E360 link=1200490172/0#5 date=1200513730]http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/10/17/bikepics-1058577-800.jpg   I know what you mean about pics being decieving. Everytime I post a pic of my bike, I get the " my arms don't reach that high" statement. Mine are only 12 inch and run at shirt pocket level.   Hutch  


hey do u need to get ur wire extended for that ape hanger?If u do,where u get them at?
[/quote]

Mine are ten inch and I had plenty of cable. All I had to do was re-route them a bit. Mine is a 2000 Savage that originally had the pullbacks.

http://a818.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_016f63eff329f9a99a51570267e924c9.jpg[/quote]

does the newer model has the pullbacks too?
Looks good on u there.Do u replaced the forks too?[/quote]

Yes, I replaced the forks with a Over length Girder front end. But I had put the mini apes on the bike before I changed out the front end.

Title: Re: Hardtail Savage Chopper Build Log
Post by grail21 on 08/05/08 at 05:10:10

Yup still around, still chipping away at it. The build got delayed as summer broke in because of other projects and commitments, but now I'm back to it. I'm hoping I can just crank on it during the month of August and actually get her finished and running.

The oil tank is too hold all the electronics and wiring, the end caps are a son of a pregnant dog to get off (you have to take the whole thing off the bike really), so totally not useful as a secret stash spot.

The exhaust... oh the exhaust. This was my first time welding anything that thin... with a fluxcore wire feed no less, and I had a hell of a time with it. I lost count of the number of burn throughs. But it's done, I think the design of it came out great and the pipe wrap will cover my nasty looking welds. The next trick will be tuning it all. Between the performance carb and the wide open pipe it should be a fun ride. (I'm pretty sure a baffle will be in order)

Cable wise... I thought I was going to need a new throttle cable, but after messing around with the one that originally came with Lancer's carb I've got it working now. New brake hose is definitely in order, I'm going to guess the same thing for the clutch, but we'll see.

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