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Message started by strangeling on 12/04/07 at 15:21:36

Title: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH"
Post by strangeling on 12/04/07 at 15:21:36

Hi,

Does anyone know how to disable or bypass the side stand switch as mine seems to be messing up every now and then so I can't put the bike into gear without it cutting out even when the stand is in the up position.

Thanx,

Glenn

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/05/07 at 05:00:07

Take a look at the schematic.  Needs a simple bypass at the relay and the ground on the double diode.  Then you can toss the whole thing.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by Kropatchek on 12/05/07 at 05:21:56


strangeling wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to disable or bypass the side stand switch as mine seems to be messing up every now and then so I can't put the bike into gear without it cutting out even when the stand is in the up position.

Thanx,

Glenn


If you do not have a schematic:

Remove the switch from the sidestand
Follow the wire(s) into the LH triangle cover
Disconnect the connector(s)
Connect the 2 wires of the bike's harness

Now the electrics on your bike think  the sidestand is UP.

Don't forget the sidestand when you drive away!

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/05/07 at 06:55:41

Yep...you're right and I corrected above.  Guess you've been up a little longer than I :P

Of course, I pulled the entire cable out so that's why I bypassed at the relay anyway.

(So, why didn't I remove the relay too?  Good question...think I will ;D)

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by strangeling on 12/05/07 at 11:11:51

Thanks guys, another easy job taken care of  ;)

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/05/07 at 14:13:31

Now, ya wanna get rid of the clutch switch too?  I did.

There's nothing quite as satisfying as starting it in gear with the sidestand down :P

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by barry68v10 on 12/05/07 at 15:05:28

Yes, I do!   ;D

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by barry68v10 on 12/05/07 at 15:06:23

Whatever happened to the good ol' days when riding off with the kickstand down separated the rookies from the "riders"   ;)

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/06/07 at 06:47:45


barry68v10 wrote:
Yes, I do!   ;D

Once again, I did it by removing the switch cable assembly completely from the lever.  Then under the tank, I put a jumper on the electrical harness connector.

Yep...it can be interesting without all the "safeties" in place.  Usually about once a year, I push the starter button without pulling in the clutch.  After that, I got it...that is until I sit on my spouse's bike and wonder why it won't start :P

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by bill67 on 12/06/07 at 06:51:06

 Why disable the sidestand switch?

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/06/07 at 06:57:48

Because he wants to.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by barry68v10 on 12/06/07 at 12:41:34


bill67 wrote:
 Why disable the sidestand switch?


I'm such a fan of KISS, that any "unnecessary feature" I want to do away with.  I consider all this "carp" as well as manual safties on guns, as "unnecessary features"   ;D

Also, why do I want my doors to automatically lock on my car when I put it in gear?!?  Yet another useless feature to me!   >:(

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/06/07 at 13:30:33


barry68v10 wrote:


I'm such a fan of KISS, that any "unnecessary feature" I want to do away with.  I consider all this "carp" as well as manual safties on guns, as "unnecessary features"   ;D

Also, why do I want my doors to automatically lock on my car when I put it in gear?!?  Yet another useless feature to me!   >:(

Yeah, and if you equate it to automobiles it's like those that have the automatic seat belt attached to the door.  

No thank you.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by govmule84 on 12/09/07 at 01:59:49

Hmm.  I am licensed to carry a pistol, and my weapon of choice is a 1911...carried cocked and locked.  I'd sure hate to tote it around without that safety...

I wired around my clutch switch... I like to start one handed a lot, but the sidestand switch I was fine with...I don't forsee myself ever needing to drive with the stand down...

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by barry68v10 on 12/09/07 at 03:09:35

So what does the manual safety on the left side do that the backstrap safety does not?  I have a 1911 as well, and never use the manual safety.  Also really like my Ruger Super Blackhawk single-action 44 mag, the safety is between your ears.

You don't put your finger on the trigger unless you intend to unleash fire.

Works for both guns and motorcycles  ;D

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by rigidchop on 12/09/07 at 04:09:46

oops double post :o

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by rigidchop on 12/09/07 at 04:11:37

i did mine the same way, and am getting rid of the clutch switch as well for tuning purposes.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/09/07 at 06:00:43

I removed them simply for simplicity.  I may shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but I wanted fewer wires in the harness and less clutter around the frame.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by DanGill on 12/12/07 at 12:02:00


bill67 wrote:
 Why disable the sidestand switch?


So it doesn't strand you when it fails. That is why I disabled mine.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by Bear_Rider on 12/12/07 at 13:30:27


DanGill wrote:


So it doesn't strand you when it fails. That is why I disabled mine.


So just fabricate a jumper and put it in the tool kit. That way you have the best of both worlds.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&am
Post by DanGill on 12/13/07 at 12:24:55


6D4A4E5D707D464B4A5D2F0 wrote:
[quote author=DanGill link=board=RubberSideDown;num=1196810496;start=0#18 date=12/12/07 at 12:02:00]

So it doesn't strand you when it fails. That is why I disabled mine.


So just fabricate a jumper and put it in the tool kit. That way you have the best of both worlds.
[/quote]

Unless you think that starting with the kickstand down is just fine . . .

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH"
Post by Savage_Greg on 12/16/07 at 04:46:43

Is it all disabled now?

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH"
Post by T-Mack1 on 12/16/07 at 18:40:01

Have yet to fine a need to disable the side stand switch.  In netrual the bike starts fine with the side stand down.   Haven't had a failure yet, "knock on wood".  The PO kept the bike pretty clean.

I do find the clutch switch annoying.  If the bike is in neutral, I feel I shouldn't have to pullin the clutch lever.  Honda been doing that for years.
  Maybe that's a winter project,  get out the SuZuK FSM,  such woonderful wintertime reading.

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH&qu
Post by LANCER on 12/17/07 at 07:23:59


444754545F101E501716260 wrote:
So what does the manual safety on the left side do that the backstrap safety does not?  I have a 1911 as well, and never use the manual safety.  Also really like my Ruger Super Blackhawk single-action 44 mag, the safety is between your ears.

You don't put your finger on the trigger unless you intend to unleash fire.

Works for both guns and motorcycles  ;D



Yes sir, I like the way you think. ;)

Title: Re: How do I disable the "SIDESTAND SWITCH"
Post by Pump_Jockey on 12/20/07 at 16:46:45

As long as we're at it, how about the neutral light switch?

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