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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1194743876 Message started by joeh100 on 11/10/07 at 17:17:56 |
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Title: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/10/07 at 17:17:56 Hi, I just bought a new s40 today. A new 06 anyway. I got a good deal too. I really wanted a bigger bike but it just wasn't in my budget. Anyway... Do u guys have any advice for a new savage owner? Breakin, Maintenance schedule, etc... Anything I may need to know but probably don't. I've heard about the carb mod, but when do u suggest doing this. Thanks a lot, Joe |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/10/07 at 17:21:40 Salesman said I wouldn't have to worry about any maintenance for 600 miles. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Ed_L. on 11/10/07 at 17:37:08 Ride the bike till you feel it could use more power then do the carb mods. The 600 mile service is needed for the warrenty but it seems that a lot of riders have had problems with the valve lash and oil level after the first service. The oil level should be in the middle of the sight glass with the bike sitting level, place a 2x4 under the kick stand to get close to level. If you have the 600 mile service done at the dealer make sure the bike has oil in it and runs right before taking it off the lot. There are a lot of monkeys with hammers out there who say they are mechanics and you need to watch out for them. Break in the bike by running it like you will drive it, just don't baby it or hold it at one RPM for too long. The key to breaking in the rings is to run the engine up and down the RPM range as you ride. Just my .02 cents on it |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Paladin on 11/10/07 at 17:43:09 joeh100 wrote:
The Savage is the Jack Russell of motorcycles -- it thinks it is a lot bigger than it is. Are you new just to the Savage, or new to motorcycles? |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/10/07 at 17:59:45 New to motorcycles for the most part. I've ridden before but never owned one. And I will be doing my own maintenance. I've learned from automotive service centers; that if you want it done right (or done at all) do it yourself. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Paladin on 11/10/07 at 18:53:43 In that case my advice is to remember that you are invisible. When someone "looks right at you" it does not mean that they see you. And that includes that guy behind you who will be stopping a half car length behind the car you stopped behind. Nothing you can do will ensure that you will be seen. Practice makes perfect -- the more you ride the better you'll be. Don't worry excessively about the bike -- metric cruisers are all pretty tough. I took a 2700 mile tour with no special preparation and no problems. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Savage_Greg on 11/11/07 at 06:23:17 joeh100 wrote:
Hi. Welcome. We can't sum it all up in one topic for every new bike. And we can't make suggestions without knowing the need for it anyway. Just read all the topics, do searches for anything you need to know and go buy a service manual before you pick up a wrench... Hope you enjoy your new "Savage40". Ride safe. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by thumperclone on 11/11/07 at 07:12:02 get a manual for self service, clymers or suzuki service |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by barry68v10 on 11/11/07 at 13:37:14 I'd recommend changing the oil before 600 miles on the first one and DON'T take it to the dealer. It think the PO allowed the dealer to create an oil-leak at the 600 mile service. If you want it done right, best do it yourself. For break-in, I like to let the parts wear together more slowly than factory recommendations, which means the first few oil changes should be fairly quick. 300-400 for the first one, and at no more than 1000 on the odometer for the second one. Also, if you install a magnet somewhere (see multiple posts) it will minimize bearing scarring during break-in. Also, I use full synthetic in all my IC engines EXCEPT for the break-in period... |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by sluggo on 11/11/07 at 14:41:21 you got the name right, savage it's all good. ride ride ride. saddle time cures monkee butt. add commute time and be prepared to talk to people who see the machine, they love it. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by vtail on 11/11/07 at 15:35:14 If You want that header to stay pretty chrome instead of blue-ing, yank that white spacer of the needle. Stock this bike runs WAY TOO LEAN. You can do this without taking the carb off the engine. When taking the tank off do NOT loose the little seal on the speedo cable where it attaches to the engine. Drill a tiny hole in the idle mixture plug (ON RIGHT OF CARB), insert small screw and yank it out. Adjust idle mixture with a hot engine to where you get the highest idle. Then adjust idle with knob on left side of carb. Voila, hardly any more popping, and sice the exhaust runs much cooler, no blue-ing of the header pipe. Change oil & filter at 400 and 1000. Torque head bolts per manual (600,4000 etc)Torque exhaust flange at oil changes. These seem to get loose till after a couple of thosand miles. If you want to run synthetics wait till 2000 miles so rings get time to seat. ;) |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by willrph on 11/12/07 at 03:13:37 You might find this link uesful. You want to seat the rings without overheating the engine to insure a proper break in. Enjoy the bike. http://www.dansmc.com/engine_breakin.htm |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by forrest on 11/12/07 at 04:16:31 Welcome and have fun. You picked a nimble, easy to maintain, and forgiving bike. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/12/07 at 05:07:51 Thanks a lot. I'm enjoying it so far. I put 80 miles on it yesterday. It looks like I'll have a little more warm weather for a while so I probably won't do anything to it until I put in 600 miles. ~JOe |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by mornhm on 11/12/07 at 06:20:08 Welcome. I suggest getting at least 1000 miles under your seat before you decide to do any modifications. As far as what works for me for break-in, I tend not to "ride it like I stole it" but other than that I make sure that I don't "drone" along at a constant load/rpm for any distance at all (more than a couple of minutes), I change gears, speed, use engine braking, etc. I do this for about the first 500 - 1000 miles. This has worked well for me in the past with new engines. Follow the maintenance schedule and do your own. Get at least the clymers manual. Read the forum. Go back in history. Things tend to go around in cycles. Chances are pretty good that if you have something go wrong, it's happened to someone else and been discussed here. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by firsts40 on 11/12/07 at 10:45:05 Like some have already said, don't be afraid to run the little bike, because it DOES think it is bigger than it is. One thing to remember though, is it is very light and when you get out on the Interstates, it gets even lighter. I have never had any problem running it 70 or more on the super slabs, but I was just careful and alert. It is a great bike for every day commuting, and will also run 70 all day long. My 06 has a wide sweet spot around 50-65. You will love the little bike......just ride safe |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/12/07 at 12:02:26 I'd be scared to get it on the interstate, but I get scared sometimes in my car too. The attitude on the interstate in Birmingham is "Get outa my way or I'll kill us all!" |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Stimpy on 11/14/07 at 19:57:25 Yup, great bike, after a couple of hundred miles you'll see you didn't really need a bigger bike ;D (How new? new new? 0 miles? ...then wait 500-600 miles before making her scream, watch the revs, no red-lining! ...the rest of the machine's life will depend on those first hundreds of miles) Oh, oh! ...and get a magnetic oil-drain plug ;) Happy riding. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by drharveys on 11/15/07 at 07:18:46 And don't forget to take pictures to share with the rest of us! All it takes is a cheap digital camera and a free photobucket.com account. Posting photos is only tricky the first time! http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/drharveys/MarseeBag.jpg This shows a small magnetic tank bag. Good place to keep the garage door remote, parking meter change, sunglassese or regular specs and a cheap digital camera. Comes right off the bike when you park. Make sure the one you get doesn't interfere with your view of the speedometer. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by joeh100 on 11/15/07 at 12:41:04 Stimpy... Yea, it was brand new in the crate, but an 06 model. I think I got a pretty good deal too, OTD price was $3800. I don't think I would want a physically bigger bike, but a little more power would be nice. I may go to a sports bike later, but time will tell; still not sure. drharveys... Yea, pictures make the boards a lot more fun, but I gotta get me a new camera first. My old one is toast, and I just blew a big chunk of change on a new motorcycle ;D I got a lot of other stuff on my Christmas list too, like windshield, leather, upgrades, helmets etc... Maybe adding a camera wouldn't be too much. Hey I'm single and I've got good credit. ;D I've still got that voice in the back of my head nagging me though. How do you shut that guy up? I like the tank bag but I'll probably store my stuff down low where all the extra space is. You know... where that other cylinder is supposed to be. ;) JK! |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by Bugscraper on 11/17/07 at 18:56:52 Paladin wrote:
Amen. I was driving my Corolla in town yesterday -- right lane (2 lanes my direction, 1 oncoming). I have a habbit of looking over my shoulder to change lanes, not completely trusting the mirrors. Started to change into the left lane, checked both mirrors (clear), then looked over my left shoulder. If I'd changed with only the mirrors, I would've run a car right off the road. There was a HUGE blind spot to my left rear. I could only think, "Man, what if that was a bike?! I couldn't even see the car!" Lotsa people change lanes w/only their mirrors -- even the conscious & semi-conscious ones. Bad practice. Then, there's the completely unconscious cagers who aren't at all aware, and don't care. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by steely on 11/17/07 at 21:26:16 sluggo wrote:
Holy crap, this is so true. I was out doing a search for a 13-y/o girl who is missing in my area, and a guy stopped me to ask about the thumper. He was on a Hardly. His first bike was a thumper and I think he would have talked to me for an hour about them had I not had to get back to the command center. These bikes are great. Just ride the p*ss out of them, they will keep going. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by blues40 on 11/18/07 at 07:57:46 I purchased a 2007 (blue) S40 Nov. 6th for SO. Her first bike and on her birthday so she was pretty happy! I rode it home from the dealer in Shreveport, about 30 miles and found it to be pretty tight and sluggest. Thanks to the info on this forum and pictures from "The Savage Companion" I finished the carb fix this morning. Stock bike had the standard needle spacer .112" thick, I sanded it down to .060". Main jet was 145, I replaced it with 152.5 ( I purchased 152.5 and 155 when I bought the bike). Pulled out the air adjust screw cover and found it to be 1-1/2 turns out. After warm up I ended up at 2 turns out. Have not ridden as it rained this morning, but it sounds like it has lots better power and throttle response. P.S. There was gunk in carb bowl, probably had old gas in there for a while sitting at the dealer. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by vtail on 11/18/07 at 10:57:07 If you still have popping remove that spacer altogether. That thing was just a kneejerk reaction to meet EPA. ;) |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by LANCER on 11/18/07 at 11:48:48 If I may suggest ... backfiring is primarily a function of a lean pilot circuit, assuming the exhaust is not leaking air, so making the pilot circuit richer will likely be a better solution. |
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Title: Re: New Savage (boulevard s40)...Advice? Post by blues40 on 11/18/07 at 13:09:52 LANCER wrote:
I agree, after riding, it seems better on low end and 3/4 throttle of more, the mid range is still lean. No popping or backfiring tho. |
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