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Title: Fair Weather Bike Post by KWKaletta on 11/10/07 at 10:56:35 The ol'e bike dose not like cold weather. It will not stay started below 55 deg When it is warm it runs fine 60 deg or warmer it runs fine. I can keep it started with the throttle kind of and when I am going about 30 mph but if I stop it dies.. I started it yesterday and let run with the choke out and let it idle and it seemed ok for about a minute or two. Then it started spitting and died. ??? :'( |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by barry68v10 on 11/10/07 at 12:28:04 You'll need to tell us what's up with your bike for us to help you. How old? Mods? When did you last ride it? When did you last fill 'er up? etc... |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by vtail on 11/10/07 at 12:44:49 My '07 starts with half choke at 40 degrees. After 5 seconds turn off choke and keep at 1200-1400 rpm with throttle lock for a minute or so while putting on earplugs, helmet and gloves. Then drive of gently and keep rpm down for about 4-5 minutes. Oil= 15W50 ext MObil One. :D Have mods below. ;D |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by KWKaletta on 11/10/07 at 20:05:39 87 30000 mi no mods. Ran great a couple of weeks ago when warm got plenty of gas ive put aprox 600mi since end of August. it was burried in the shed. When it got cold it started acting up. I am the worlds worst mechanic. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1186465607;start=0#0 |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by barry68v10 on 11/11/07 at 03:46:23 KWKaletta wrote:
Hmmm. How close are you to Washington State? Greg lives there... Anyway, start by draining the float bowl and check for water. Check the vacuum lines for leaks and/or gas in them. Simple stuff first. Experiment with different choke settings, there should be different choke settings than just "in, out." Bottom line: There are lots of posts here with folks with similar problems, search function will help you find all this stuff. With due diligence you can shed the "worst mechanic" moniker. Let us know what you find. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by Savage_Greg on 11/11/07 at 04:39:00 barry68v10 wrote:
Yeah...shop work has slowed down. :P Anyway, the Savage is not a Fair Weather Bike. It is a Cold Blooded Thumper. May want to richen up the idle with the air screw, and then leave the choke on the first notch position when riding at slow speeds. Like I said before, seems like we get a lot of these posts this time of year. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by thumperclone on 11/11/07 at 07:18:55 going into second winter with my 06 not one prob last winter i ride if its 40 or above and no ice on roads..(40 mph at 40 deg = 28 deg ) choke at start up bike rpms tells me when its ready for no choke, any time below 50 i warm er up in the drive way as i finish puttin cold weather gear on good 3 mins or better.. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by Savage_Greg on 11/11/07 at 07:30:41 thumperclone wrote:
That's another important thought...one that people should remember when starting their car too. All too often people start up and drive off. That's sometimes called a "dry start", especially if the vehicle has been sitting awhile. In cold weather the oil is thicker and slower flowing. Need to let it warm up longer for a couple reasons in cold weather. It'll make the clutch and tranny smoother acting too. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by forrest on 11/12/07 at 04:19:00 I ride mine regardless of the weather; 26 degrees the other morning. When it is cooler I do have to ride with it in the "prime" position. Otherwise not a lick of trouble. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by T-Mack1 on 11/12/07 at 05:51:44 Along with Greg's suggestion of adj'ing the mixture, you may also want to tweak the idle up a little in cold weather. Idle is probably the easiest thing to adjust.... |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by T-Mack1 on 11/12/07 at 05:57:36 Savage_Greg wrote:
Also agreed with Greg on this one. At my 50 deg F self imposed riding limit, the Oil preesure gauge at stratup is 30 PSIG because how thick the oil is. Poor little gauge is just about pegged...... I wait till it gets down to 15 before riding. Here's the gauge this past August. Big difference in pressure. http://www.users.fast.net/~tommack/LS650-Gauges.JPG |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by firsts40 on 11/12/07 at 10:23:52 I do almost the same thing as Thumperclone. If it is in the 40's, I start with a full choke for initial start then knock it down to half choke for a minute or so, while I am getting suited up. When it is below 40, I let it run a little longer on half choke then let it idle for a few minutes to get the oil thinned a little. My 06 loves the cool weather once it gets warmed up. It don't get real cold here on the Mississippi Gulf coast, but I have run it as low as 35 degrees with no problems once it warmed up. Had to start it a little before everyone else so I would be ready to go though. Temperature "sweet spot" is in the 50's. Ride safe |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by astrolin on 11/27/07 at 16:05:44 I know this may sound stupid, but when thumperclone said "choke at start up bike rpms tells me when its ready for no choke" is that when the RPMs drop. I ride my savage all the time and whenever I start it cold (even if I just rode it a few hours ago) I start it with full choke and then when the RPMs drop I the choke off to half. After I do this it dies about 15 seconds later. I have tried turning the choke completely off and completely on, but anything I do it dies. Any suggestions? I am riding an '01 with 6600 miles. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by thumperclone on 11/27/07 at 17:00:02 astrolin wrote:
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by J Mac on 11/27/07 at 17:28:01 I took off today about 7:00 AM, and I think it was in the low to mid 40s (yes this DOES happen in Houston). Half-choke worked fine while I was getting my gear on. In fact, my bike always likes half-choke, and I usually turn it off 30 seconds after I roll. The cool wind was another issue. The liner on my leather jacket was near-useless, as were my gloves. I think I need some Thinsulate stuff if I'm going to do this morning stuff very often. I had to warm my hands on the cyl. head at a light :-/ |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by T-Mack1 on 11/27/07 at 19:09:16 Another note here, I noticed that when warming the bike up, if I just push the choke in one click the bike has a tendency to stall. But a small tweak on the throttle while pushing the "one click" and everything is fine. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by Savage_Rob on 11/28/07 at 07:51:07 Of course, all of this assumes use of the stock carb. My Amal Mk2 requires use of the enrichener for every start if the bike has been sitting for more than an hour or two unless I want to crank it a bit (I guess the bowl evaporates quickly and the enrichener allows a little extra fuel without excess cranking so she starts right up), then flip it off immediately and she runs great. She does run best in cool/cold weather though. |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by KWKaletta on 11/29/07 at 22:52:12 Guess what I need to drill a little brass plug! |
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Title: Re: Fair Weather Bike Post by Digger on 07/10/08 at 20:58:45 I ride mine (see signature) all year 'round here in Colo Sprgs. It does get quite cold here at times. Anyway, if anyone notices their bike acting up in cold weather, the petcock diaphragm should be at or near the top of your troubleshooting list. Mine was acting up, but only when the temp was below about 45 deg F. I suspect that cold temperatures magnify the negative effects of a marginal diaphragm. BTDT! |
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