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Message started by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 14:14:39

Title: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 14:14:39

Ok, so I have everything to do my chain conversion but I cannot get the front drive Pulley nut loose to remove it ! Any help would be appreciated !!!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Hell, Billy on 11/05/07 at 14:16:35

I think it turns the other way---as in righty loosey, but you`d best check the manual.

B

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 14:22:12

Thanks but the Clymers doesn't tell me anything about the thread direction ?

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by gary_ona_savage on 11/05/07 at 14:33:21

I think it is a lefty-loosey. Follow the Clymer's manual. Make sure you are doing this before you pull the rear wheel and belt. Also, the rear wheel needs to be on the ground for traction.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by gary_ona_savage on 11/05/07 at 14:35:41

Better yet...read hutch's directions:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1174239333

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 14:42:08

Cool,

But I still can't get it to budge !

Any suggestions ?

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by gary_ona_savage on 11/05/07 at 14:49:48

I used a long torque wrench to loosen. You might get some help, someone to sit on the bike while you loosen. Mine was stiff but came loose fairly easy.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by bill67 on 11/05/07 at 14:50:05

Will the belt guard still work with the chain.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by gary_ona_savage on 11/05/07 at 14:54:44

bill67 wrote:

Will the belt guard still work with the chain.

Depends on your sprockets and chain type. Mine "touches" the tab every now and then when I get on the gas.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 15:15:11

Gary,

I'm also using a long torque wrench.
Maybe I'll just call it a day and try again tomorrow, I'm really frustrated right now, it seems some stupid little nut or screw always slows me down. ARRRGGGHHH
:-X ??? :-/ :'( >:(

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by jk on 11/05/07 at 15:44:37

strangeling wrote:

Cool,

But I still can't get it to budge !

Any suggestions ?

http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/11/05/bikepics-1078992-full.jpg

38 inches... The nut sees that coming and will spin off on it's own ;)

(Actually, I only needed that to get the drive gear/old cam chain off)

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by barry68v10 on 11/05/07 at 18:19:15

Did you pound down the nut tab? It holds the nut in place and keeps it from spinning...

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/05/07 at 18:23:30

Yeah I flattened out the washer tab, but I'll check again tomorrow in case there is some part still not flattened out enough. Thanks

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Hell, Billy on 11/05/07 at 20:09:59

Hey, I stand corrected, apologies, my bad.

Bill

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by gary_ona_savage on 11/05/07 at 20:54:07

Maybe try some liquid wrench or something and let it sit to loosen it. (I guess it's ok to use here?) Probably has a ton of locktite on it or something.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by T-Mack1 on 11/06/07 at 02:53:12

Suggest buying, renting or borrowing an impact wrench. A breaker bar with pipe extension puts a bunch of torque on it, enough to wreck stuff.

Remember to bend down the locking washer.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Savage_Greg on 11/06/07 at 05:01:46

Lefty loosie on the nut.

Can't get someone to hold the brake while your turn the nut?

You could also try to put a bar or pipe through the rear pulley and block it against the swingarm.

Did someone say that they were trying to turn it with a torque wrench? I've always heard that you shouldn't break bolts loose with a torque wrench.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by slavy on 11/06/07 at 12:02:15

There are couple of tricks, but the first thing I'd do is :
I'd pull the pulley cover and I'd ride the bike to the closest auto or mc repair place , and I'd ask ANY mechanic to do it for me. After that without hesitation, I'd give him $5 for the 1 minute job. I'd screw back the nut without torqueing it too much , and I'd go back home and keep doing what I wanted to do.
If not- just pull the spark plug out and take a long 1/4'' cotton rope. Put the piston in bottom dead center before the compression stroke, and stuff the space above the piston with a lot of rope. After that use the socket with a long bracker bar. The piston will keep going up untill it stops in the compressed cotton. Once You are done, just back the piston, and pull the rope out.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Savage_Greg on 11/06/07 at 12:20:00

slavy wrote:

Done that before too...but of course, now we're talking about removing the seat and tank in order to remove the pulley...

Or you could remove the clutch cover and jam the primary gears with a piece of aluminum...

Or you could go buy an air compressor and an impact wrench and socket...

So many options...:P

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by hutch on 11/06/07 at 19:26:36

I had the same problem with mine. I agree with Slavy, take it to a tire shop. That is what I did, and it took several tries to break it loose with the impact. Mine had a ton of locktite from the factory. Hutch

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by strangeling on 11/06/07 at 20:11:24

Thanks guys,

I ended up taking to a performance auto shop a couple of streets down from me and he helped me out getting it undone for free.

Well got everything done now I just have to remove a couple of links from the chain tomorrow and I will test this sucker out. I'll report back on my thoughts tomorrow.

And Hutch thanks for coming up with this idea, other than the pulley nut problem the conversion was cake !

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by hutch on 11/07/07 at 05:31:06

Strangeling, can't wait to see how you like it. You can always dial it in to your preference by playing with ratios. Beats the heck out of living with what the factory gave you. Hutch

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Savage_Greg on 11/07/07 at 09:32:56

strangeling wrote:

Good job. Hope that you can ride it in several different kinds of areas for a good overall review.

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Bobbing Tom on 07/28/12 at 19:37:35

What does the manual mean by "flatten out the lock washer" ?

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Bobbing Tom on 07/31/12 at 03:39:51

Ok have found the answer to my question abve.
Now the problem is the tab had been broken off and messee up previously :(
I have tried to undo the nut anyway out of frustration, it moves with a bang but seems to be turning the internals as well (I marked the edge of the nut and drive shaft). Anyone got any suggestions for removing the pully with an unhelpfull pulley nut? I think I will have to put her back together and head to the mechanician :'(

Title: Re: HELP ! Removing Front DRIVE PULLEY Nut
Post by Oldfeller on 07/31/12 at 03:51:54

There is a Tech posting on that subject.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1335739552

If you are describing the inner shaft and nut (as a unit) rotating inside the front pulley, you have stripped splines in the pulley.

Actually, it is unclear what you are trying to describe --- try again please.