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Message started by verslagen1 on 11/03/07 at 22:21:14

Title: Dual headlights
Post by verslagen1 on 11/03/07 at 22:21:14

Anyone using Dual HD 4 1/2" Headlights?

Are they any better than the stock headlight?

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/04/07 at 03:19:16

Saw pics of dual lamps on a Savage before ... looked pretty cool ... if I can dig 'em up, I'll post 'em!

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by demin on 11/04/07 at 03:46:15

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/060579
Not mine

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by LANCER on 11/04/07 at 05:00:12

I have a pair of small blue oval driving lights that I found at an auto parts store for $16 that will be going on REX.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by Savage_Greg on 11/04/07 at 05:08:53

demin wrote:

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/060579
Not mine

Not bad :)

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by skoeter on 11/04/07 at 05:55:10

demin wrote:

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/060579
Not mine

Spotted it too about a week ago. A few weeks back I bought the same lights for 65 euro while they should cost about 150!!
http://www.suzukisavage.nl/uploads/forums/dubbelekoplamp.gif
Think he did some nice thing with the clamps, waiting for mine to come in....
http://www.skoeter.com/uploads/forums/lampsteun.jpg 8)

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by verslagen1 on 11/04/07 at 09:14:18

How about doing a comparison of the lighting for us?

Take a picture of the light cast upon a dark wall kind of thing. Or down a dark street.

The one's I'm looking at are dual H4's with 55/60w bulbs.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by russellwhitlock on 11/04/07 at 15:18:52

Although this conversion may look awesome, I would have to advise against doing it.

I have TWO friends who have been wiped out whilst riding, because a car driver saw two headlights close together at night, and assumed that it was a car that was still some distance away, rather than a bike that was rather close.

Is it worth risking your life to make your ride look a little bit sweeter? I think not.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by islandwahine on 11/04/07 at 16:11:55

Did neither of the car drivers see the orange turn signal lights that are always on?? Or did your friends remove those?

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by smokin_blue on 11/05/07 at 02:51:06

Slightly different but I ran dual 5 3/4 lights on my old 750 GSXR sport touring conversion. It is awesome having that much light. I picked up a set of harley aftermarket lights and made mounts so one sits on each fork leg.

I personally wouldn't worry about duals and cars, the more light the better as far as being seen. You always have to drive defensively around cages especially left turning ones. It is really nice when a bulb dies at night and you still have another one. It really improves both long and short distance vision.

If you really want a sight throw in a set of 55/100w sky burners as we called them. You will probably also watch the charging/electrical system fry on the savage >:( but man will you see before it does! 8)

I am assuming you are planning those 4 1/2 as a replacement to your headlight and not an addition to. If so just watch the beam pattern. Some lenses that are made as running lights have a different pattern than headlights. I was also going to warn that many driving lights don't have low beams but it appears yours do. With that the case they probably have a decent beam patern.

If your electricals can handle it go for it!

If you want a picture of my set up let me know!

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by DanGill on 11/05/07 at 05:39:18

russellwhitlock wrote:

This is also the case with one light. One light looks like a car that is a little more distant. Two lights is no more a problem than one. And it can shed more light, plus can give you a backup if one light goes out.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/07 at 07:03:40

I don't have much use for high beams anyway. And when I do, 60w is enough.

This all started when I found true HID beams and being blinded most of the time that I meet someone with them. For the most part, it's illegal to upgrade to them. They have to be factory installed to have them. Since I would expect suzuki to ever offer them on the savage, I've been looking at HD's. Haven't found one there either.

Since I've been looking for new lights, either a single 8" or 7", I've been most concerned with the lighting pattern of the different lenses. It seems the euro lenses have a sharper cut off for low beam? And I don't know what there high beams are.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by skoeter on 11/05/07 at 09:34:32

russellwhitlock wrote:

I'm sorry to hear about your friends but does it indicate a problem with the lights or a problem with the cardrivers eyes/sleep pattern??

More lights is more view! Besides...... i agree on the being seen earlier staed above....

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by vtail on 11/05/07 at 10:12:23

All my riding has ALLWAYS been done with High-beam during the DAY. They'll see me much earlier. If it burns out, I always still have low (for night-time). Added benefit: Cagers tend to move over if they get tired of Highbeam in their mirror. In a pack of motorcycles I'll ride with lowbeam unless I'm the leader. :P

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/07 at 11:00:50

I do the same, highbeam durring daytime.
I guess I should say I found 100w no better than 60w cause I rarely use it at night and I've found that 60w highbeam is just fine for me. ;D

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by russellwhitlock on 11/05/07 at 14:48:57

In answer to your question Island Wahine, in New Zealand it's illegal to have the orange indicators wired up to run as driving lights. so, although we have to have orange turn signals, that's all they are - turn signals.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by jk on 11/05/07 at 14:53:59

I had thought about mounting dual oval lights, but instead of side by side, stack 'em- one above the other. (That would confuse the He11 out of on-coming traffic ;) ) I did a mock up in Photoshop, but I'll be buggered if I can find the jpeg... The lights were the combo driving and fog lights- two bulbs in each case. Use the fog as low beam and the driving as high beam.

I haven't really gotten much further than gross speculation. I'd need to check the wattage and what kind of pull they'd have on the electrical system.

Edit: Found the picture...
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/11/05/bikepics-1079036-full.jpg

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by jrm8486 on 11/05/07 at 17:06:43

When I put my seeger front end on I got tom, the hoghunter to help me,this is a pic of his bike and he told me he always had problems with these lights, you might want to ask him.

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2004/12/02/bikepics-252765-800.jpg

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by TheFid on 11/06/07 at 07:26:42

Did neither of the car drivers see the orange turn signal lights that are always on?? Or did your friends remove those?
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I've never seen turn signal lights continuosely on. Surely they are not designed to do so?. Have you wired them up yourself to achieve this?.
TheFid.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by verslagen1 on 11/06/07 at 07:49:09

The front sig's also double as running lights, at least here in the US

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by smokin_blue on 11/06/07 at 10:02:37

I set up a pair of dual Hella's on my Streetfighter

http://home.att.net/~street-unique/BadAttitude/photos/finished/july2006-44Medium.jpg

http://home.att.net/~street-unique/BadAttitude/photos/finished/july2006-37Medium.jpg

The bottom one is a fog light which is on all the time and runs as low beam, the top one is a running light which comes on for high beam and gives great long distance lighting with the fog pattern for the close up. The low beam light stays on when the high beam is turned on.

Title: Re: Dual headlights
Post by mpescatori on 11/12/07 at 06:45:40

JK's pic is sweet, and the ideal setu would be to run the lower light as low beam, and the higher light as high beam.

Should one lamp blow the filament, it just could be that swappint the wires is faster than swapping bulbs !!!

;D