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Message started by matt_savage on 10/22/07 at 20:29:10

Title: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by matt_savage on 10/22/07 at 20:29:10

Hello everyone,

I am new to this site, but not internet forums. I just bought my first bike, '98 Suzuki Savage LS650 and I love the first impressions of it. It's dark dark midnight blue and has 6,xxx miles on it. It is in real good shape and I have a couple of noob questions and the previous owner can't find the owners manual. Thanks in advance.

1. I realize that the choke needs to be pulled out to start the bike when its cold, but which setting on the petcock is best for optimal operation? There is pri, on and res?
2. The bike sometimes randomly shuts off like it stalls out when I engage the clutch and I'm in either 2nd or 3rd gear? What would cause this, wrong carb setting?

Thanks again and I'm sure these are minor issues, ones that an experience rider (not me) can explain.

-Matt

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by rigidchop on 10/22/07 at 21:12:26

mine will start with the petthingy in the on position,unless it has been sitting for awhile, then i use the prime, might be the kick stand switch causing it to stall.

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by matt_savage on 10/22/07 at 21:15:42

hmm, why would the kickstand switch cause it to stall? The only time it stalls is when I am slowing down in 2nd or 3rd and I pull the clutch? I am not even touching the kickstand?

-Matt

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by Savage_Greg on 10/22/07 at 21:47:04

I know this is your first bike, but how long have you been riding?

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by Gulfstream on 10/22/07 at 22:19:19

If the idle speed is set too low it can exhibit these symptoms.

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by Trippah on 10/23/07 at 05:31:48

Hey Matt- welcome..and if we yank your chain a little, it's only cause we were there once..The Pri means prime.the fuel is gravity fed (only used when the bike has been sitting a while; on is normal position day after day, fuel is vacumn fed from the tank, past the petthingy into the carb..when the bike sputters and looses power about 100-120 miles after a fill up, switch to res (reserve) and head for the nearest gas station.

You shuldn't be stalling when you engage the clutch ..are you slowing down and holding the clutch in for an extended period of time?? Try increasing the idle a touch (screw on left hand side of the engine near the choke..or try giving it a bit more throtttle as you engage the clutch, that will help keep the rpm's up.

Savage-greg's question is to the point ..which is if you are on your first miles ever, think about some classes ASAP..be careful, and have fun.. (I think that's where Savage-greg was heading.. ;D

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by rigidchop on 10/23/07 at 09:46:59

i was gonna say that it might be the idle, but that wouldn't make sense to me if it didn't stall when stopped, only when riding.unless he just thinks it does because he cant hear it? the reason i thought it might have been the kickstand switch, was that when i had mine apart and put it back together wrong, it would do that.unless its the vacuum from the petcOck leaking causing it. or the petcOck is clogged. or maybe i've been thinking too much.

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by SavageDude on 10/23/07 at 11:05:32

Run your bike in PRI position and see if engine still stall. If not then you can narrow down to your vacumn hose to the petc@ck. Otherwise, kickstand switch is likely the intermitent problem.

Good luck in wrenching.

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by verslagen1 on 10/23/07 at 11:30:30

When shifting, the rpm's will drop lower than the idle setting. When cold the rpm's will drop a little making the problem worse.

Check out the tech section for lancer straight and simple carb tune and you might bump up the idle speed a little.

Title: Re: bike shuts off when clutch is engaged?
Post by T-Mack1 on 10/23/07 at 13:54:26

There's on '02 owners manual to download in the tech / ref section. Some minor changes in the bike but gives general idea of things.

I also posted a '01 parts manual there too. Also some minor changes from '98, but also handy for looking at how things fit.