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Title: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/22/07 at 05:23:09 Hi, I like to introduce myself here. Nickname is al, and I just bought a '90 savage . Looks like a very nice bike to me. It needs a bit of work though. It does not run, that is, it does not want to idle. No problem, I think it will be in the carb area somewhere. Removing, cleaning and mounting it again will improve that I think. Another problem is oil leakage. Near the head (and that may be a problem of some rubber plugs I think), but also through the oilseal (it seems) of the gear shift axis. Could anyone of you tell me if that problem can be solved without the removal of the engine from the frame? Maybe by drilling al tiny hole in the oilseal (is that the correct word for it?) and get it out and put the new replacement in? Or do I have to open the engine and remove it first? Thanks in advance. Btw: My English is not so very good, so if I make any mistakes, sorry... ;) |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/22/07 at 05:45:04 al wrote:
The one in the head is pretty common, just a few hours work to fix it. The oil seal by the shifter? Sure? Quote:
Not sure about drilling holes in anything. Can you post a photo? Quote:
Your English is fine...we just need to figure out the names of the parts your are talking about :P |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/22/07 at 07:19:58 Savage_Greg wrote:
Thanks for your fast reaction! I think it's the shifter as you call it, it's where the axis where you change gear with goes into the gearbox. I get the bike this week and only then can I really check it, but that is wat the previous owner told me. you can see the leakage on a photo, but see my answer below.... Savage_Greg wrote:
Yes, I have a photo, but how do I do that? Can I upload one or can I only link to one? Savage_Greg wrote:
Thanks, I'm doing the best I can... ;D |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by T-Mack1 on 10/22/07 at 07:35:11 Refresh my memory here......isn't the gearshifter oil seal in the small removeable gear shifter cover? ? ? ? |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/22/07 at 09:55:42 T-Mack1 wrote:
Very good point. You are right. It is in that cover. Now just to find out if that is where it really IS leaking. Could be leaking from the drive shaft seal or the starter seal too. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/22/07 at 09:57:01 al wrote:
You have to link to the photo on a web hosting site. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/23/07 at 03:56:02 OK, here are a few photo's I took when I went to view the suzuki. Notice the oil on the street.... Tomorrowevening i'm going to get the suzuki and get it in a dry place instead of just out on the street. You can see the dirt from an couple of months wind an rain... :'( http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb005.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb006.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb007.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb008.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb009.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb010.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb014.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb015.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/avlochem/Suzuki%20LS%20650%20Savage/Afb011.jpg |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by verslagen1 on 10/23/07 at 11:25:25 Under the starter is a drain hole that leads to a drip around there. If the starter was removed and replaced, the o-ring could've been cut causing the leak. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by T-Mack1 on 10/23/07 at 14:01:53 I suggest taking off the slotted cover over the output pulley. It doesn't have any fancy seals but does have rubber washers on the top bolt. Either a 8mm or 10mm socket. You will be able to see where the leak is much better. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by rigidchop on 10/23/07 at 17:32:04 mine leaked from that side after i put the clutch cover on wrong, i couldn't tell where it was coming from at the time though. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/23/07 at 22:16:14 Thanks for your reactions you all. The suzuki will be in my backyard this evening if everything works out as planned. I'will try to figure out where the leakage is as soon as possible. I will take some pictures and show them here of course! :) |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Kropatchek on 10/24/07 at 08:18:26 Je mag wel invullen dat je uit Nederland komt, hoor!!! Please fill in your profile your location: The Netherlands. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by vtail on 10/24/07 at 09:52:13 Denk je dat al van Lochem is? |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/25/07 at 07:03:37 vtail wrote:
Sterker nog: ik weet het wel zeker! :D En met wie heb ik de eer dan? Btw, is de voertaal hier geen Engels dan ??? Zal ook mijn profiel even bijwerken... |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by verslagen1 on 10/25/07 at 09:02:29 ok... if you guys are going to have a private conversation... why don't you pm each other. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by vtail on 10/25/07 at 09:20:04 Nahh, No offense, We just wanted to flush Al out to tell us where she's located. I'm in Portland,OR but was born in Holland. By the way AL, your English is excellent, need no excuse. ;D |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/25/07 at 11:50:02 OK, back to the savage then. I recruted a friend with a car and trailer and she's in my backyard now, marking her spot with some oil on the fresh newspaper I put under her. The battery is conneted to the charger now. Tomorrow I will try to start her for the first time since a long time (several months, the previous owner told me yesterday evening). Wish me (her) luck! ;) |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by vtail on 10/25/07 at 12:05:14 You could drain the gas out of the carb (little screw on bottom of carb) and put fresh gas in tank. It really helps since gasoline ages pretty fast. :) |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by T-Mack1 on 10/26/07 at 09:50:52 Agreed with VTail, make sure there's no old fuel in the system. Drain the fule tank too. You will have better results trying to start the bike with totally fresh fuel. Please note, I would only put a few liters (quarts for us USA folks) in the fuel tank just in case there are other issues that might require the tank to be removed. |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/26/07 at 12:20:13 Update: I tried to start her this evening. Battery placed and a little choke: It started within 2 seconds! The engine runs fine without any rattle or ticks. Because the oil warning light ( it's the one on the right side in the speedometer, is'nt it? )does not light up when I turn the key in the ignition on and I don't trust the oil level because of the leakage, I soon turned the engine off. So it's reparing the leakage first. Because I have to clean the front and back brake first I have the time to look at the oil leakage. I've bought a tank in the right color with kilometers speedometer instead of the one with miles I have now. And it's cleaning time also! ;D |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by verslagen1 on 10/26/07 at 12:27:39 That's not a oil light. If you got a '86 it would be a kickstand light. But it doesn't do anything on all the newer models. To check the oil level there's a little window on the lowest right side in the very back. Look closely and you'll see 2 lines in the side of the case next to the window for high and low oil levels. Basically the oil level should be in the middle. The bike should be held verticle while you're checking the level. also should be ran for a minite or 2 then shut off for the check. ;D |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/27/07 at 07:21:21 vtail wrote:
I just moved to Europe, I think :P |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/27/07 at 07:23:28 vtail wrote:
And Al is a She, too? |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/27/07 at 07:27:22 If the starter seal is leaking it will only drip for a short while after you turn the engine off because only a certain amount stays in the starter well. If the shifter shaft seal is leaking, it will probably drip continuously when parked on the side stand. Just a thought... |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by al on 10/27/07 at 09:21:02 Savage_Greg wrote:
Hm, it's leaking constantly, so that could be it.. Thanks for the tip. Btw I'm a he.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Savage_Greg on 10/27/07 at 11:01:47 al wrote:
Never know :P Al could be short for Alisha or Alice or Allistar or Allison... But since you're a he, it might be short for Allen or Alvin or Alton or Aldridge 8) |
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Title: Re: Oil leakage question Post by Madcap on 10/27/07 at 13:48:55 Hi Al, welcome! To clear up the gender confusion, you might want to change the "venus" icon to a "mars" - in your profile. ;) peace |
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