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Message started by FreeSpirit on 10/04/07 at 23:46:05

Title: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/04/07 at 23:46:05

Make your own highway bars?

For some reason I have been thinking about this all week(or more) and there must be a reason why you can't or I figured more people would be doing it....so ,is there a reason?

Or...... has anyone here ever made their own?

I know the chroming would be expensive,but is there any other reason.

Maybe some I havent thought of!? I'm just real curious about this ...and I'm not sure why :-)

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by PerrydaSavage on 10/05/07 at 00:28:22

Free, there's absolutely NO reason why someone couldn't fabricate their own highway bars (or any other accessory for that matter ...) ... some steel pipe, some brackets, a few bolts, rattlecan primer/paint ... oh yeah ... a welder and a bit of talent wouldn't go astray either ;D ;)

Seriously, there are folk here at suzukisavage.com who can literally put an a$$ in a cat backwards when it comes to rigging up modifications for the Thumper ... highway bars should be relatively easy for most of 'em!

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by thumperclone on 10/05/07 at 04:03:12

3/4 galvanized conduit,hickey bender,big vise, no welder needed...

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by azjay on 10/05/07 at 06:08:42

it would not be a problem to build hiway bars, if there was a desire to have something different, or to save some $$$. chroming isn't really that expensive, (depending on which environmental nazzi state you might live in) but it starts to push the price up. they are one of the few accesssories actually available for the savage, so it is easier to buy, IF the store bought part suits your needs.

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 08:43:36

Thanks guys!

One reason why I asked is I'm having,for some reason,a difficult time making up my mind on what I want.....from the store choices.

Then I started thinking,I'll just make my own for a temporary use,.....then I'll have some at least for now, and  will have more time to decide on "real " ones that I want :-)

I thought about just painting them black....and also thought about just making a straight bar....but wasnt sure if that would work,to mount on the single part or if I'd need to make it for the lower part of frame for more support.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by Savage_Greg on 10/05/07 at 10:05:34


FreeSpirit wrote:
Thanks guys!

One reason why I asked is I'm having,for some reason,a difficult time making up my mind on what I want.....from the store choices.

Then I started thinking,I'll just make my own for a temporary use,.....then I'll have some at least for now, and  will have more time to decide on "real " ones that I want :-)

I thought about just painting them black....and also thought about just making a straight bar....but wasnt sure if that would work,to mount on the single fork or if I'd need to make it for the lower forks for more support.

Any ideas?

Shoot.  I saw a photo where someone built a motorcycle with wood.

There's nothing stopping you from using a couple u-bolts and a 2 x 2 either.  No welding, bending, or chroming needed.

A nice sealer stain would be a good touch too.

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 10:29:35

Greg , you can use wood if you like,but I prefer metal :-)

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by Savage_Greg on 10/05/07 at 10:37:06


FreeSpirit wrote:
Greg , you can use wood if you like,but I prefer metal :-)

Just a thought....

http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/04/wood_motorcycle.html
:P

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by T-Mack1 on 10/05/07 at 11:00:28

Greg,
  Holy moly....just think about  that wood bike getting caught in a rain storm.  Wonder how warped it would get when the wood started to swell? ? ?

All,
Here's a tip for benting pipe (poor person's pipe bender).  Fill the pipe with sand.   It will help prevent most of the kinking.

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 11:59:08


T-Mack1 wrote:
Greg,
  Holy moly....just think about  that wood bike getting caught in a rain storm.  Wonder how warped it would get when the wood started to swell? ? ?

All,
Here's a tip for benting pipe (poor person's pipe bender).  Fill the pipe with sand.   It will help prevent most of the kinking.


I knew you guys were smart :-) That's one reason why I ask ya'll instead of the hardware guys!


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by islandwahine on 10/05/07 at 12:10:46

I spend a lot of time in hardware stores, walking around and thinking about what to use to accomplish an idea I had.
So putting together a highway bar would not be too hard. You can use these steel pipes they sell with thread on the end. They have them in different lengths, get 2 long ones (the width you want your guard to be) and 4 short ones (the height you want your guard to be). Purchase 4 T-bars (two on top, 2 on the bottom) and 4 elbow connectors for the corner.  You might have a bit of a puzzle figuring out which ones you want to purchase with threads and which ones without. Sounds like a great thing to go and mess with.

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 12:28:03

IW....I do look online moreso than in hardware stores,but try to get ideas there also.

You said "Purchase 4 T-bars (two on top, 2 on the bottom) and 4 elbow connectors for the corner.  

I'm trying to picture that ....but will probably need to go to  hardware store to see.

How would you connect the T-bars? Not sure yet what youre saying but going to hdwe store in a few minutes.

I bought the bar,threaded and end caps(hdwe store was closing yesterday,not much time to look)....but will just have to go see for the rest to see what youre saying.Thought about just a straight bar yesterday.

And then there's other things to consider....will come back and post more.



Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by islandwahine on 10/05/07 at 15:43:15

FreeSpirit, made a quick drawing in PaintShop, but this is what I kinda had in mind.
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C10%5C05%5Cbikepics-1046700-full.jpg

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by clueless on 10/05/07 at 16:11:50

I made some back before I put on the forward controls. I only had a vice, hacksaw, drill, and hand tools. I'll look for a picture.

Jim

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 16:13:58


clueless wrote:
I made some back before I put on the forward controls. I only had a vice, hacksaw, drill, and hand tools. I'll look for a picture.

Jim


Cool Jim!! Would like to see them:-)


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 16:21:55


islandwahine wrote:
FreeSpirit, made a quick drawing in PaintShop, but this is what I kinda had in mind.
http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C10%5C05%5Cbikepics-1046700-full.jpg

Where you have got the T's connected,are they in line with the pipe or sitting over the pipe?

Sorry,hardware guy was trying to help so much that I got into looking at other metal stuff and forgot to look at the T things.

They look in line,which means you'd have to cut the pipe ,but that could just be the drawing.But I think you said to buy 2 long pieces for the top and bottom bars...originally,but not sure though.

Mmmmm,I've been thinking about this too much....my brain is getting cluttered :-)


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 16:24:24


islandwahine wrote:
I spend a lot of time in hardware stores, walking around and thinking about what to use to accomplish an idea I had.
So putting together a highway bar would not be too hard. You can use these steel pipes they sell with thread on the end. They have them in different lengths, get 2 long ones (the width you want your guard to be) and 4 short ones (the height you want your guard to be). Purchase 4 T-bars (two on top, 2 on the bottom) and 4 elbow connectors for the corner.  You might have a bit of a puzzle figuring out which ones you want to purchase with threads and which ones without. Sounds like a great thing to go and mess with.


That is what you said ,I think,but did you change the plan? That pipe(what I call it )gets pretty heavy,if you add too much together The piece I got for the straight bar is pretty heavy by itself.
I'm now picturing the bike tipping forward on end  ;D Sorry,just getting tired :-)

Then the mounting of the bar...I would probably have to get someone who has a drill press,....not sure if I could get the holes to line up if I drilled it with a regular drill! If I went for a straight bar and drilled for mounting holes....I'll have to take a break and think about this later :-)
I was thinking drilling rather than welding because the guys around here charge way to much to weld :)


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by islandwahine on 10/05/07 at 18:10:16

Actually the top and bottom pipe would slide through the T-bars. I think that if they are left lose at first, until you know where to mount the thing on the frame, then you can drill a couple of holes in them and anchor it down with a bolt. No welding required.

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 18:19:18

Well.....how heavy you think that would be? I'm trying to figure out how heavy this one pipe is!

And does pipe really screw in that well? I'm still trying to figure out if all that would screw together well or at all? :-/

And how would you mount it? It can't sit right on the frame.

I actually bought some U-bolts and cheap railing($.98 ),and a piece of angled steel today to just experiment with.To see what will work and what wont ,angles,heights,mounting,etc.:-)
I have a drill,hand tools,saw,etc. No bending thing,no welder,what else is it I dont have....something else.??...oh,no vice.

Decided it may be best to experiment first on this :-)

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by islandwahine on 10/05/07 at 21:19:43

Good idea on the experimenting. It gives you more of a 3-D perspective. If you use the pre-made elbows you don't need to bend it. Just make sure you are not too fixated on cheap! What use is the highway bar if you drop the bike and it just crumbles??

Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/05/07 at 23:32:08


islandwahine wrote:
Good idea on the experimenting. It gives you more of a 3-D perspective. If you use the pre-made elbows you don't need to bend it. Just make sure you are not too fixated on cheap! What use is the highway bar if you drop the bike and it just crumbles??


IW....Do you think "anyone" would use cheap materials for a highway bar???  


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by islandwahine on 10/06/07 at 01:44:53


FreeSpirit wrote:


IW....Do you think "anyone" would use cheap materials for a highway bar???  

I would hope not!!
I was just making sure because of what you said:

FreeSpirit wrote:

I actually bought some U-bolts and cheap railing($.98 ),and a piece of angled steel today to just experiment with.To see what will work and what wont ,angles,heights,mounting,etc.:-)
:-)

I just had a thought.
Can you fin out how much an already made highway bar weighs?
That way when you start looking for the real material you'll be using, you can find out if yours is going to be around the same in weight.
Having it heavier wont hurt it though I think. It might make it a little less top heavy. And especially for us girls who are a lot lighter then the guys, it would be nice to have it less top heavy.


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/06/07 at 10:07:32


islandwahine wrote:

I would hope not!!
I was just making sure because of what you said:
I just had a thought.
Can you fin out how much an already made highway bar weighs?
That way when you start looking for the real material you'll be using, you can find out if yours is going to be around the same in weight.
Having it heavier wont hurt it though I think. It might make it a little less top heavy. And especially for us girls who are a lot lighter then the guys, it would be nice to have it less top heavy.


LoL....Ohhhhh...The .98 material is to experiment with, on  making one, to mess with on finding placement,height,how to mount,how to make ,etc.....Not to actually use!  :) Silly girl :-)
I tried to make that clear on that  post,but guess I didnt !

I had looked into weight....saw where one weighed about 6-lbs....not sure on others.
But I was hoping the guys would comment on weight ,any reason not to make it too heavy.

But I would think even 6-lbs would be noticeable.

And you may be right,a "little" more weight from the bars may distribute the weight better....lower.


Title: Re: Is there any reason why you can't.....
Post by FreeSpirit on 10/06/07 at 10:12:44


clueless wrote:
I made some back before I put on the forward controls. I only had a vice, hacksaw, drill, and hand tools. I'll look for a picture.

Jim


Hopefully Jim will find his pictures.....I'd love to see them  :)



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