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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1188328763 Message started by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 12:19:23 |
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Title: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 12:19:23 So I went to go take my Savage out for a ride and I notice that nothing happened when I tried to crank it. Tried a few easy things and then moved onto the fuses. Sure enough the top fuse was blown. I replaced the fuse turned the key to on and about 3 seconds late the fuse melted. I started troubleshooting and each time I did something I insert a new fuse. Well, 7 20A fuses later, and i'm stumped. What is the top fuse on a 1986 Savage used for? How can I track this down? I didn't change anything since the last time I rode it, so I don't even know where to start! |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by T-Mack1 on 08/28/07 at 13:08:51 Didn't we just go thru blowing fuses.? ? ? Someone had a short at where the wires go into the headlight bucket. there's a wiring diagram in the Tech section, look in the index posting. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 13:22:17 The headlight was the next place to look. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Reelthing on 08/28/07 at 20:36:21 The circuits are a bit innertwined, but likely are going to need to chase them, however when I had one doing that - twas the turn single flasher with a dead short - your turn signal on? |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 20:39:41 I can't turn anything on because as soon as I turn the key to ON the fuse blows. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Reelthing on 08/28/07 at 21:01:23 just curious if the turn signal switch was already on before you turn the key |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 21:05:02 Not sure. I have tried that. I ran out of fuses ::) |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Paladin on 08/28/07 at 21:15:31 Ballast Lamp -- Replace the fuse with a small 12v lamp. It will light. When you clear the short the light will go out. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/28/07 at 21:19:30 That's an interesting idea. The fact that that circuit is receiving more than 20amps won't be a problem? |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Paladin on 08/28/07 at 22:35:54 No, the lamp acts as a current limiter -- no different than hooking it directly across a battery with a 6000 amp capability. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by islandwahine on 08/29/07 at 01:22:03 T-Mack1 wrote:
That was me!!!! Actually the short was were the headlight wires got pinched between the frame and swivel part of the forks |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by islandwahine on 08/29/07 at 01:24:47 Paladin wrote:
That's a neat trick, wished I had known about that one! |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 08/29/07 at 09:17:16 But since the light would be running in series with the short that is pulling more than 20amps wouldn't that cause 20amps to run through the tiny filament of the bulb and effectively destroy it? |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Max_Morley on 08/29/07 at 09:46:09 No because the highest resistance limits the current flow. Max |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by T-Mack1 on 08/29/07 at 09:57:12 Max is right....the short is just like a wire to ground. The circuit equivalent would be just like putting the light across the battery. Oh yea.....thanks Paladin!!! |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by Paladin on 08/29/07 at 14:53:08 Thank the 'Phone company. I've lit up enought ballast lamps in my carreer. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by drharveys on 08/29/07 at 21:44:51 And I just kept the garage dark and looked for the spark when I turned the key to find my last short! Went through a few fuses for that one, but it did lead me to where the insulation was chafed on a wire. |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by WD on 09/01/07 at 12:44:32 Been having the same problem. Last night watched the harness from the right bar switch arc out against the gas tank. I'm deleting that mess this weekend. Also looks like the harness is pinched over the carb. I might just rewire the whole mess while I am at it, with fullsized wiring. The factory harness is rather fragile. My bike has room on the frame to move the starter button and delete the bar switch... -WD |
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Title: Re: Blowing fuses, bike won't run, please help! Post by toddlamp8 on 09/05/07 at 20:56:39 Thanks for the great tip (using a light). Sure enough, when I unplugged the right hand control unit, the light went out and the no more blown fuses. I guess I have to get a replacement now, anyone have one for sale? |
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