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Message started by monq on 08/23/07 at 13:40:30

Title: carb problem_or other probl.
Post by monq on 08/23/07 at 13:40:30

???how right to regulate idle mixture......??
on small windings bike turned off.....wht could be problem?
plz help ???
thanks

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by verslagen1 on 08/23/07 at 14:16:55


monq wrote:
???how right to regulate idle mixture......??


See http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1157720585


monq wrote:
on small windings bike turned off


If the rpm's are low, it will shut off no matter how it's adjusted.  A little high is better than too low.

Hey Monq, how about adding your country to your profile?  It's fun to know.   ;D

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/23/07 at 14:41:29

thnks...
i hope it helps.....

im from lithuania

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/24/07 at 00:03:41

sorry for stupid question....where to find gas filter?...
is it in fuel ckock???
maybe problem in that???i need to clean it....
thnks...

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by Kropatchek on 08/24/07 at 02:32:05


monq wrote:
sorry for stupid question....where to find gas filter?...
is it in fuel ckock???
maybe problem in that???i need to clean it....
thnks...


No stupid questions -  only stupid answers

Gas filter is on fuelc0ck inside tank.

Adjust idle to 1000-1200 RPM with screw on left side of carburator.

Adjust idle mixture on right side of carburator 2-2.5 turns out for best run.
( turn screw right till stop then turn left 2 to 2,5 turns)








Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/24/07 at 03:04:26

;D super...thanks...


Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/26/07 at 12:38:04

nothing dosnt work....ill try to adjust mixture.....but dosnt help......i turned 7 times to the left............ :o
some where is air...or somting else.....
bike like some where geting air....and stifled
mabe its somthing in carb?? ???

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by verslagen1 on 08/26/07 at 13:58:21

7 turns out doesn't sound good.
start at 2 turns out and adjust idle speed to 1000 to 1200.
If it doesn't slow down when you change it to 1 turn or 0 turns, then it might be vacuum leak.  Or Idle speed is too high still.

then try lancers straight and simple carb tune.

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/26/07 at 14:18:48

i started from 2 (idle was 1000-1500) ....... than 7 turns..and was better....but then i drived abou 1 hour and that repeated......at more  acceleration bike started stifle....  
i think its waakum leak..now i have to found leak...


Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/26/07 at 14:21:38

verslagen1.....what is LANCER (lancers straight).....where is it......sorry my english is not good...and i didnt found in translater....
anb maybe you can tell me more about simple carb tune.
BIG thnks

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by verslagen1 on 08/27/07 at 08:52:38

Here's a link to the thread.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1157720585

At 7 turns out, you're in danger of loosing your idle pilot screw (right hand side).  There is a spring that keeps tension on the screw, but more than 3 turns out it may be in contact with the screw.

If your engine was running fine up to now, you most likely have dirt in your carborator.  A good cleaning may fix the issue.

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/27/07 at 13:44:51

thks

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/30/07 at 16:10:26

??? ??? ??? ??? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(cant get off bolts in carb........................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............................................... f........... .........sorry

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by LANCER on 08/30/07 at 16:53:36

You need an impact driver.

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by islandwahine on 08/30/07 at 23:06:37


monq wrote:
??? ??? ??? ??? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(cant get off bolts in carb........................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............................................... f........... .........sorry

Ha! I think I understand Lithuanian!! Cool!!

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 08/30/07 at 23:15:10

i was try impact driver.....but how stron i must do this....i dont want destroy carb:))....
with screwdriver bolts are a litle destroed.....so strongly screwed.....
i think WD40 will help me......i hope

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/31/07 at 09:17:27

monq,
  Do you have Vise-Grip pliers?  They are a clamping pliers.  

http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/browse.jhtml?catId=IrwinCat100299

If screw is striped, the clamping pliers can be used to loosen screw.  "break it free"

Also, yes, WD-40.  but It will make the screw slippy  



Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 09/01/07 at 12:41:47

i cleaned carb.....checked everything......its ok.....
but now its same thing......SOME WERE IS AIR.........i dont know were to find leak... ??? :o


Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by T-Mack1 on 09/01/07 at 14:22:12

Here's a way to find leak.  

With everything together, start bike and idle it (if you can).  Then spray "carburetor cleaner" around the connections.  When idle changes, you have found leak.

Be cautious, carburetor cleaner is flammable.  Engine gets hot!



Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 09/02/07 at 12:17:08

T-Mack...hmmm
thnks
ill try that....

regards

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 09/03/07 at 13:26:33

well...ill try like  T-mack says...and  it was a little flame :)))) but its ok....
and i think i found leak....its a rubber between carb and cylinder....i hope its  problem....

http://files-upload.com/files/478887/gumaP9034429.JPG

now i will change it.......if i found new...in lithuania:)))))

Title: Re: idle mixture
Post by monq on 09/08/07 at 02:09:30

i think i  found real problem.....
now rubber betwen carb and cilyndr is with red silicon filled.....
c0cke is with rubber and red silicon fillet too....
but i observe probleme here.................>
http://www.talpink.lt/images/images/98931gas.jpg (http://www.talpink.lt/images/v.php?id=98931gas.jpg)

when i accelerate slowly its ok.....
but when accelerate fast...but not too fast...sharply...bike stifled.....like to much air in carb, ore too much benzin......
and i spoke with college, they think it is problem with jet.......>
http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/parts/Suzuki/LS650PX+SAVAGE/1999/707244#stay#stay
16 ore 18 nr.


Title: Re: idle mixture__carb problem
Post by monq on 09/09/07 at 04:15:44

now....i`ll cleaned carb...cheked inside.....
i dont know what to do....maybe change carb:)))) ??? ;D

you can hear and watch all.........maybe you will have some variant............>
http://www.talpink.lt/files/484432
http://www.talpink.lt/files/239682
http://www.talpink.lt/files/454172
http://www.talpink.lt/files/308629

Title: Re: carb problem_or other probl.
Post by monq on 09/16/07 at 23:37:17

well...........thnks to all, for Your help.........
finaly i found problem. all problem in ignition coil....>
http://
http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ae/f7/e61a_1.JPG (http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ae/f7/e61a_1.JPG)

how to check it...just ask your frend with LS for some part, what you want to check...and change it on your bike.....and will see changes..

best regards


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