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Message started by jkhulon73 on 08/19/07 at 10:55:53

Title: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/19/07 at 10:55:53

Finally got her back together about an hour ago. Turned the key, hit the starter and she fired right up...

How sweet it is...

http://home.comcast.net/~joehulon/after_med.jpg

'Bout to take her out for a shakedown cruise. \m/ ;D \m/

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/19/07 at 12:20:19

Thing ran fine -no it ran GREAT- until the main kicked in- I should have known... It was a bit rich before. Without the stock airbox, it's super rich. And wouldn't you know it? The only people that work barber's hours any more are the motorcycle shops. Can't get a smaller main until Tuesday...  >:(

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Odar on 08/19/07 at 14:09:26

Great looking bike you got ;D
Odar

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Post by Savage_Rob on 08/19/07 at 14:28:57

Aye, very nice looking bike.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/19/07 at 14:29:42

Thank you, & thank you.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Dr_Jim on 08/19/07 at 14:49:22

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Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/19/07 at 15:19:37


Dr_Jim wrote:
...why not buy a bunch of cheap #4 plastic or brass washers, and use them to construct your own custom spacer to lean out your main jet?...


I think I'll give that a whirl... tomorrow.  ;D I had to push the d@mn thing up a hill for about a mile when it decided it wasn't going to start and my head still hurts. It's only 102 degrees in the shade...

Nothing like a black flag right off the starting line!

(Speaking of black flags, I just watched Grand Prix- awesome movie)

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/20/07 at 10:54:09

Surprise surprise, I found a shop open on a Monday! But they didn't have both the jets I was looking for...

I'll give the 152.5 a try and see if that helps enough. I wanted a 150...

Anyway, I do have a question- what would a hotter spark plug do in conjuctions a leaner jet?

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/20/07 at 17:28:41

Changed the spark plug as well... Went with the Champion. Fired right up. But, my license is only provisional. And it's after sunset.  >:(

Give her a road test tomorrow.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Rockin_John on 08/20/07 at 22:32:44

Leaning a carb mix and changing to a hotter plug at the same time can be a formula for disaster. More specifically, holing a piston.

What makes you think you need a hotter plug? The only time I'd ever resort to one is with an engine already in need of overhaul, and just trying to squeeze a few more miles out of an oil burner. Otherwise, I consider hot plugs to be a hazard best avoided, and well realistically, best avoided altogether.

Oh, Hey... That really is a wicked look you've got going with the bike! And kept the front fender too... good for you! The bits of red and yellow are a unique touch.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/21/07 at 05:32:38


Rockin_John wrote:
...What makes you think you need a hotter plug? ...


I was just curious. Something I hadn't really thought about before, but after reading your explaination, I had one of those forehead-slapping moments...



Quote:
Oh, Hey... That really is a wicked look you've got going with the bike! And kept the front fender too... good for you! The bits of red and yellow are a unique touch.


Thanks! Yeah, when I took the fender off to paint it, I saw all the crud up under there and decided I didn't want that all over me.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/21/07 at 07:51:02

New header wrap sure does stink at first. It's an odor I haven't had the (dis)pleasure of smelling for a long time...

Other than that, the bike runs great! First time out of the subdivision with it... awesome. This thing is a pure joy.

(Having said that, it probably won't start now  :P)

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/21/07 at 10:40:32


jkhulon73 wrote:
New header wrap sure does stink at first. It's an odor I haven't had the (dis)pleasure of smelling for a long time...

LOL!  Wait 'til it gets wet and you start steamin' that smell!

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by serowbot on 08/21/07 at 11:27:34

Love the look!  I want to see a bigger pic!
Work the bugs out of that baby and make us proud!

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/22/07 at 11:32:28

All right- big bug: Rode it this morning and it ran fine. It ran great. Other than dying once when I rolled off the throttle, no issues.

I got home and my right hand was just about asleep- the drag bars have no angle at all so I took them off to bend them appropriately. For the time being, I put the stock bars back on. After ten minutes of work. I fired her up to take a spin around the block and it started backfiring through the carb and it sounded like it was preigniting in the combustion chamber.

I am completely over my head with this one. Any suggestions?

(My gut is telling me an M-80 dropped right in the bowl and a new ride will solve my problem.)

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/22/07 at 12:45:02

You only changed bar's?????  

Did you disconnect the battery when you were doing that?

Is throttle cable on carb correctly?

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Post by T-Mack1 on 08/22/07 at 12:46:35

Oh Oh,........ I see you were playing with jets too,  check the spark plug.........

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Post by verslagen1 on 08/22/07 at 13:51:35

regarding sleeping hands...

turn the bar so the bar ends droop.

or the forward position is causing you to place more pressure on your hands.  use taller riser.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by steely on 08/22/07 at 15:25:55

I am sorry that I don't have the fix for your pre-ignition problem.  I just wanted to stop in to say that I really like what you have done with your bike.  When, (if?) I ever get done with the GS I am planning to turn my Savage into a bobber style custom.  I just try to keep it to working on one bike at a time.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/22/07 at 15:30:09


T-Mack1 wrote:
Oh Oh,........ I see you were playing with jets too,  check the spark plug.........


The pilot circuit seemed fine- all I changed was the main to a 152.5 from a 155 and it ran great. The plug is a brand new Champion. I didn't have time to pull it before I left for work today to see what it looked like. It can't be crudded up that bad after 20 miles...

Unless the engine is just complete cr@p.

I really don't want to tear it apart. I just got it back together.

Anyway, I'll check the plug in the morning and see what's up with the valves as well as track down any kind of air leaks around the jug (exhaust & carb) It did start puking gas when I shut down the last time. Maybe it was just the float sticking and flooding out...

I really don't care for Mikuni carbs...

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/22/07 at 15:34:39


steely wrote:
I am sorry that I don't have the fix for your pre-ignition problem.  I just wanted to stop in to say that I really like what you have done with your bike.  When, (if?) I ever get done with the GS I am planning to turn my Savage into a bobber style custom.  I just try to keep it to working on one bike at a time.


Thanks!  And good luck with yours! I've been in love with the bobber look for a long time.

BTW, I'm starting to think maybe what I was hearing as pre-ignition was just the back-firing being modulated by the FF helmet I was wearing at the time. I have a lot of time sitting here at work to rethink all the symptoms- it just drives me nuts that I can't go home and work on it!


Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/23/07 at 08:03:41

Pulled the plug this morning- nice, even, satiny, carbon fouled after less than thirty miles...  >:(

What do you guys think? Take it down to a 150 and decrease the pilot jet as well? Hotter plug? Valves? Timing chain? Handlebars?



I just wanna ride, man...

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/23/07 at 14:47:17

Bueller? Bueller?

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/23/07 at 15:13:44


jkhulon73 wrote:
Bueller? Bueller?

I think he has the day off.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/24/07 at 17:34:49

...I'll figure something out...

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/27/07 at 16:31:30

If anyone is interested, I think I figured out a couple of the problems-

one) the valves were way out of spec
b) the needle valve and float assembly in my Whunnderful Mikuni carb are cr@p.

and...

well, I guess that's about it.

Oh, and the petc0ck is garbage as well. I already did the manual conversion, but I think I'm just going to convert the whole thing to on and off (with an inline filter, of course)

Other than that, I am really ejoying the hell out of this bike.  ;D

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Strafford_Guy on 08/27/07 at 17:19:05

jk, so you have it all worked out? How about some differnt pics of the bike at differnt angles? That is one sweet looking beast

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/27/07 at 20:11:11


Strafford_Guy wrote:
jk, so you have it all worked out? How about some differnt pics of the bike at differnt angles? That is one sweet looking beast


Ask and ye shall receive...

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/08/27/bikepics-1005725-full.jpg

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/08/27/bikepics-1005719-full.jpg

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/08/27/bikepics-1005724-full.jpg

I need to take some more picts tomorrow- I changed the handlebars a bit.



Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by SteveRocket on 08/27/07 at 20:35:04

looks mean as Hell.I like it.

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/27/07 at 20:41:17

Thanks!

Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by Dr_Jim on 08/27/07 at 21:08:08

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Title: Re: On the Road Again...
Post by jkhulon73 on 08/28/07 at 04:59:15


Dr_Jim wrote:
...Have you considered the fork-lowering thread? Your bike would be such a natural one to lower about 2-3" in the front and maybe 2" in the rear - it would look hyper-tuff then...


Yes I have. I need to replace the fork seal on the left, so when I do, it's getting lowered a bit. I'll probably put a set of black fork boots on it as well.

As to replacing the needle valve, anyone got a good technique for getting the blinking pin out of the float assembly? That booger is in there good...


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