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Message started by islandwahine on 08/17/07 at 11:06:14

Title: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/17/07 at 11:06:14

Aloha,
Posted the same question last night but it disappeared?
When I ride, the speedometer on the gas tank rattles extremely loud! Its driving me crazy! I can't even hear the engine. Is it possible to tighten up the speedometer?
I looked in the technical reference section, but there was nothing on this problem.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by verslagen1 on 08/17/07 at 11:11:13

here's your fix

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1179104436

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/17/07 at 11:29:33

Well I guess I'm not the brightest bulb on the earth!
I only just now saw that there is a search available!! Duhh!
Thanks for the hint!
I'm not sure how comfortable I am in taking of the tank, I was hoping to fix the problem without having to remove it!.
It takes 2 hours!!! Oy!
I'll have to work up the courage to tackle that problem, it's not like I know anyone (who I'm comfortable even asking) that can help out when I'm stuck. And then I end up with no bike. I know I have to though, it's just too much of an annoyance!

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/17/07 at 11:33:16


islandwahine wrote:
Posted the same question last night but it disappeared?


It was accidentally deleted.  I explained that in the PM I sent you immediately after it occurred.


islandwahine wrote:
I looked in the technical reference section, but there was nothing on this problem.


It's there.  It's called Speedo rattle fix (silicone & tubing method).  Verslagen1 linked to it above.


Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by youzguyz on 08/17/07 at 11:34:58

Always look here first:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1181745927

That will lead you to a lot of good info like:
How to remove the Fuel Tank

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1100708616

If you are not comfortable with (or would like to see) other ways of doing things, you should definitely use the search (as you have discovered).



Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/17/07 at 13:32:35

Tank not that hard to take off.  I do recommend draining and taking petc0ck off as it will clear the frame easier.  Otherwise expect to scratch the frame.  

Putting back on not too hard either, two half cups on tank have to get on the two rubber pads on the frame.  A good light is big help here.  

I know there is post to drain tank but here is process,  take fuel line off carb (leave on petc0ck).  Get gas can and put fuel line in it. Turn petc0ck to PRI (prime) and let drain.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/17/07 at 13:47:42


T-Mack1 wrote:
Tank not that hard to take off.  I do recommend draining and taking petc0ck off as it will clear the frame easier.  Otherwise expect to scratch the frame.

Yeah, probably a good idea.  I wound up wrapping that part of my frame with electrical tape but pulling the petc0ck is simple after the tank is drained.  And having the tank drained makes it easier to work with.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/17/07 at 14:05:27

islandwahine,
  There is an electrical connector and the speedo cable too.  Take speedo off at engine.

T.M.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by verslagen1 on 08/17/07 at 14:26:15

And that speedo cable has a o-ring.  when you take it off, it may fall out.  And then it will leak oil.  So don't loose it.   ;D

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/17/07 at 20:19:16

Thanks guys, I think I'll copy paste all the instructions (yours and the ones on the tech site) in Word and print it. I can just imagine myself accidentally thumping the bike over on top of the laptop! Two nightmares in one (lol).
And if not the bike then some oil or gasoline.
Tomorrow's my day off, I think I'll try it.
Sure hope any of you are going to be online tomorrow in case I hit a brick wall (figuratively!).


Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/18/07 at 07:30:09

And before you reinstall the tank, make sure the speedo cable is tight at the speedo end.  Just use your fingers though.  That thing looks like it could strip pretty easily.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/18/07 at 11:32:51


Savage_Rob wrote:
And before you reinstall the tank, make sure the speedo cable is tight at the speedo end.  Just use your fingers though.  That thing looks like it could strip pretty easily.


Hi Savage_Rob,
I've just started to take the tank off, but I already ran into a glitch. The Clymers manual says to turn the fuel switch to OFF.
I don't have an OFF choice. What's up with that?

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Max_Morley on 08/18/07 at 11:47:28

Are you going to drain the fuel first? If so leave it straight down until you have the container and hose in place then turn the lever to res. It will drain most of the fuel out then. If you are going to leave the valve in place and move the tank back, rear to the left and then up and off, just leave it on the run position. It is nice if you don't have much fuel in tank when you start this process as it makes it lighter and easier to handle. Also it is really nice to have a second pair of hands to either hold the tank while you carefully, but forcefully,  pull apart the wire connector for the dash lights. Watch the routeing beforehand on the speedo cable. Max

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/18/07 at 11:55:30


Max_Morley wrote:
Are you going to drain the fuel first? If so leave it straight down until you have the container and hose in place then turn the lever to res. It will drain most of the fuel out then. If you are going to
leave the valve in place and move the tank back, rear to the left and then up and off, just leave it on the run position. It is nice if you don't have much fuel in tank when you start this process as it makes it lighter and easier to handle. Also it is really nice to have a second pair of hands to either hold the tank while you carefully, but forcefully,  pull apart the wire connector for the dash lights. Watch the routeing beforehand on the speedo cable. Max


I have to get the gas out, cause I just filled her up to the max yesterday. I had it on reserve cause the tank was almost empty, but it ran so sh1tty that I filled her up. Won't the gas come pouring out when I remove the fuel hose? That's why I wanted to put it on OFF first so I could hold a pan underneath to catch the gas. I can have my son help with removing the cable.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/18/07 at 11:58:43

Never mind, Savage_Rob just told me it's a vacuum system and that the gas won't come pouring out when the switch is on 'ON'.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/18/07 at 12:40:44


verslagen1 wrote:
And that speedo cable has a o-ring.  when you take it off, it may fall out.  And then it will leak oil.  So don't loose it.   ;D


There is no o-ring on my speedo cable. I'm sure I watched real careful when I took it out.
I guess whoever worked on it before must have lost it.
Would any bike dealer have a speedo o-ring? I'd rather go the the bike shop down the hill instead of driving to town which takes an hour.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by verslagen1 on 08/18/07 at 16:49:47

you can't buy a direct replacement.
When I can, I'll measure what I put in mine and post if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/19/07 at 13:15:22

You can use a nitrile o-ring that fits and it'll work just fine.  A 225 PC. NITRILE O-RING ASSORTMENT (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93143) can be had for $7 at Harbor Freight.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by islandwahine on 08/20/07 at 18:20:12

Great find! Thanks!
I'll call them tomorrow to see if they are willing to ship it to Hawaii priority (Doesn't weigh much I think) otherwise they only ship postal service 4th class (that means boat) and it could take 4-6 weeks. I tad long to wait for it in my eyes.
I can also ask for NITRILE o-rings a a car dealer, maybe they have.

Title: Re: Rattling speedometer
Post by Max_Morley on 08/20/07 at 21:00:27

I think you'll have better luck at a good auto parts store (like NAPA), or a bearing supply place. Many dealers only go by application and if it isn't for their brand are helpless.  I think some have found them at home depot, might want to do a search for the oil ring and speedo cable. Max

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