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Message started by FreeSpirit on 08/02/07 at 20:40:45

Title: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/02/07 at 20:40:45

I have noticed,remember I'm new to Savages.that some have a different seat than others. I think they are stock seats,but different.

My 2002 has a seat similiar to a S-40. But some have a different seat.I've only noticed 2 different kinds though.

Was this according to the year made? Does anyone know?

I bought my Savage used so I'm wondering if someone changed the seat on it or if it came that way.

And does anyone know which seat is more comfortable.

Thanks for any info!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by serowbot on 08/02/07 at 21:33:59

Before... oh,,2000 or so, Savages had a solo and pillion seat with pullback bars, then they went to a one piece seat with drag bars.  Almost the only change in the savage line, other than going from 4 to 5 gears in 95'.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/03/07 at 05:38:40


serowbot wrote:
Before... oh,,2000 or so, Savages had a solo and pillion seat with pullback bars, then they went to a one piece seat with drag bars.  Almost the only change in the savage line, other than going from 4 to 5 gears in 95'.

Also, the first few years had Savages available with either flat or pullback bars.  After that they went to pullbacks only, until just a few years ago.  However, the newer models have different bars than the early flats... probably different risers/clamps too but I haven't looked to be sure.  Below is an image of the stock two-piece seat.  There were a couple of versions of the two-piece also but it seemed to me they were basically just different vinyl coverings.

http://rob.savageriders.com/images/2-piece_LS650_seat.jpg

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/03/07 at 07:11:59

The seat on my bike dosent look like that one...its the other one :-(  
I think I like that one better!

Do you know which one is more comfortable? Or are they about the same.

Mine does have the pullback handlebars though,which to be honest is why I wanted a Savage and not the S-40. I don't like the straight handlebars,not for me.

Mine is Pearl white (Custom paint).

I bought a white half helmet and then realized they do make a Pearl white Helmet :-( I dont know why you spend money and then see something you wished you'd have bought! But I guess you can have 2 helmets,when you get extra money !!
I have learned though not to rush and buy things.


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/03/07 at 09:56:06

To be honest, I don't think there's a lot of difference between the stock seats, whether two-piece or gunslinger.  In my opinion, the pillowtop gel seat for the S40 is more comfortable than the stock.  I'm now trying out the HD Sportster seat on mine and it seems fairly comfortable so far.  However, I haven't done any long rides with it yet... just 25-30 miles at a stint so far and that never bothered me anyway.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Balderdash on 08/03/07 at 10:03:36

I don't believe either seat is better than the other if comfort is the determining factor...

Cosmetically, of the 3 designs I'm aware of, (2 piece with rows on it, 2 piece with flat covering, and 1 piece seat with flat covering) I think the old two piece with rows looks best.

But all of the seats have to be re-padded and repositioned (raised in the front) or replaced entirely if comfort is desired, they are all under-padded and uncomfortable for anything longer than 30 minutes...).


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/03/07 at 10:22:57


Balderdash wrote:
Cosmetically, of the 3 designs I'm aware of, (2 piece with rows on it, 2 piece with flat covering, and 1 piece seat with flat covering) I think the old two piece with rows looks best.

I think I've seen two different S40 seats also: one with smooth vinyl and the other has a texture molded into the vinyl to make it look sort of like a weave.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by skatnbnc on 08/03/07 at 14:48:16


Balderdash wrote:
I don't believe either seat is better than the other if comfort is the determining factor..
But all of the seats have to be re-padded and repositioned (raised in the front) or replaced entirely if comfort is desired, they are all under-padded and uncomfortable for anything longer than 30 minutes...).


Ditto that.
Even when I got a gel seat, I had to put the riser in. This is what my 2006 looks like (seat is all one piece) with the saddlebags over the back pillion. Mine has the original stock weave texture seat on in this photo. The new gel seat is the same shape, but is smooth.

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/07/11/bikepics-958880-800.jpg

May still go for Balderdash's super-gel pad conversion if I keep up the idea of longer road trips in the future.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/07/07 at 22:41:52

Need info on the riser! What is it,what is it for, and how to do it :-)

In other words I know nothing about it.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Balderdash on 08/08/07 at 20:50:20


FreeSpirit wrote:
Need info on the riser! What is it,what is it for, and how to do it :-)

In other words I know nothing about it.


When you take off your seat, you can see the two bolts that hold down the back of the gas tank.  Those two bolts also hold down the bracket that the plastic clip on the front of the seat goes under when you re-attach the seat.

The idea is to raise that bracket by an inch or two so that the front of the seat is higher and your butt will then stay on the back round part of the seat instead of sliding forward to the skinnier part of the seat and/or riding you up on on the gas tank...

What I did was I went to a hardware store, took off my seat, took out one of the two bolts holding the gas tank down and took that bolt into the store with me.  

I bought two bolts that were the same thread size but one and a half inches longer.  Then I bought 6, 1/2 inch (fat and tall) urathane washers and I used three stacked up on each side so they would be 1 1/2 inches tall with the bolt through them and put them on top of the gas tank mounts.  Then I put the bracket on top of those.  

Thus, the front of my seat is now 1 1/2 inches taller then it was before, making it more comfortable for me to ride the bike.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Ph33r/Gel_Seat/Seat_Lift.jpg

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Windrider on 08/08/07 at 22:06:44

When I first started riding, I thougt the seat on my '98 was some sort of cruel joke to keep me from riding too long, if there is such a thing  ;). But it seems the more time I ride the more I'm getting used to it.

I used black rubbber plugs that I drilled holes in and longer screws (metric screws in the length I wanted were a pain to find, I almost just ran a 1/4-20 tap through the welded nuts, but let that feeling pass) to make my front risers.

For the last two months I've been riding to work everyday and that has made a big difference in my acclimation to the seat. I definately think a thick sheepskin or gell cover would certainly help.

HTH

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Baldeagle on 08/09/07 at 05:21:22

05 S40.....pillow top gel raised 1 inch with a sheep skin cover......very comfortable but a Lane recliner would be a whole lot better.  Good luck on your seat search.  I think the Suzuki folks designed the seats for the LS650 in association with the American Association of Chiropractics and the National Hemorrhoidal Society.l

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/09/07 at 05:32:04


Baldeagle wrote:
05 S40.....pillow top gel raised 1 inch with a sheep skin cover......very comfortable but a Lane recliner would be a whole lot better.  Good luck on your seat search.  I think the Suzuki folks designed the seats for the LS650 in association with the American Association of Chiropractics and the National Hemorrhoidal Society.l

I've been using the pillowtop gel S40 seat with and without a sheepskin pad for over a year now and just installed a Sportster seat to try.  I've ridden with the sporty seat for a few weeks now and it is more comfortable than the S40 gel and is cheaper too.  It does take a small amount of adaptation but that's already been documented.  I used the speed-pin suggestion for mine and it comes off and goes back on in seconds.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/09/07 at 15:02:58

Thanks Balderdash

Perfect! In every way!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by skatnbnc on 08/10/07 at 09:31:17

The photo below shows both the smooth texture gel seat and the padding that I used for seat risers.  My risers have some white showing, but you can paint them black to blend in better.

The padding is furniture moving/slider pads available in any hardware store.  I drilled a hole through the pads, and got 2 longer bolts to replace the original shorter ones. Easy to do, quick too!

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/08/04/bikepics-983919-full.jpg

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/10/07 at 21:57:28

Skat,


I'll have to look on my bike tomorrow and see how easy it would be to take the seat off or up.

But you do make it sound easy :-)

Does this/risers make a big difference? Do you feel a difference.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/12/07 at 13:13:53

Repeat.....

Does this/risers make a big difference? Do you feel a difference.

Anyone?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by sluggo on 08/12/07 at 15:15:57

i've said it before, i'll say it again...

you can spend a fortune looking for a "comfortable" seat.  but it's time in the saddle that will cure monkee butt. the more you ride, the more you're butt becomes accustomed to the ride.  

ride  ride  ride, thats the only thing that will give you experience.  

oh yeah,  the only accessory the savage needs is FUEL   8)

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by skatnbnc on 08/13/07 at 06:14:18


FreeSpirit wrote:
Repeat.....
Does this/risers make a big difference? Do you feel a difference.
Anyone?


Yes, risers make a difference. The biggest thing people notice and comment on is that the riser keeps you from sliding into the tank.

It also puts your weight a little differently on the seat, thus increasing the amount of time you can ride before monkey butt sets in.

Its an easy mod, and one worth trying on your own to see if it works for you. If not, just take the riser out, no loss.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/13/07 at 22:59:01

Ok, I see now what ya'll are saying about sliding down/forward to the gas tank. Didnt notice it before ,I was concentrating so much on learning to ride :-)

But now I have a awww....dumb question again.

How do you take the seat off? I want the risers on!

Also,is there a good Savage book(better than the manual) that shows you things like....how to remove the seat,replace fuses,and basic stuff "or more".If so, what book is it?
Thanks guys!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by youzguyz on 08/14/07 at 05:03:13

There are 2 bolts for the "driver" seat.  One on each side, located towards the back, up under the seat.

Remove bolts then tip back up seat up and slide back to remove.

More info on doing the seat riser (lift) here:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1109035237


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by slavy on 08/14/07 at 14:35:12

We went for a pretty long ride with a group of guys. On this trip I learned a lot about different issues on long trips.
About the seat comfort I learned 2 things:
1. there is a cover called " Air hawk" /i think/. What it is - like an air pad with many compartments, that You inflate very lightly. Two guys had this pad- one on a 2003 Honda ST1300 and the other on a 2007 HD Road Glide. Both love the pad. It is not cheap , but they say , it is worthed the money.
2.There was a new rider guy on a Victory Vegas. He had 2 different additional seat covers and keep exchanging them all the time. He had a shipskin and one that he made out of a Pep boys car upholstery. /the one that has beanies, made of wood/. The 2 things he said are that the "beanies"  are  very comfortable and prevent his behind from sweating + they give a massage to his gentle parts. He had good things to say about the shipskin also. Finally he settled for the beans over the shipskin and he rode most of the trip this way.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by LANCER on 08/14/07 at 17:47:55

I had not thought about the wood bead cushion thing.  I have used them in a car and liked them...interesting....

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/14/07 at 19:59:39

I've seen the bead car seat things, usually two tone beads.  Makes me wonder if you could get the beads rearranged into the Suzuki "S"?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/15/07 at 00:18:43

The tiny little beanie things like in massage pillows?

I do have a little massage pillow that fits behind your neck(great for headaches) and there are tiny little bead things in it.

Its actually very comfortable,kinda feels soft in a way but supportive.

Like those?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by youzguyz on 08/15/07 at 02:49:11

Time to throw in my 2cents worth..  which is about all it's worth.  Remember, these are MY experiences, and one thing I found out from all the posts I read and everything I tried.. nothing is going to work the same for everyone!!

I had the "sore tailbone" problem.  I tried:

1. Seat lift - helped a little

2. bicycle gel pad - no help at all for me.

3. Sportster seat - went to HD place and sat on a few.  Did not impress me enough to do a mod.

4. Wooden bead seat cushion (the kind that are talked about above) - great, for about 10 miles, then worse than before.

Got a spare set of seat pans (bought from a guy here) then:

5. Dug various holes in the foam where sore spots were and tried various kinds of other foam.  Memory foam, some kind of weird latex, upholstery foam, etc, etc.  Modest improvements, but now I was on a mission.. and still sore after riding for about 4 hours.

6. Spend the $$ and got an AirHawk.  Slapped it on the stock seat.  Felt pretty nice, but didn't like the look very much, and would be a hassle to put on and take off (so it wouldn't be ripped off), etc.  And it made the seat higher than I liked.

7. The light comes on.. and I put the Airhawk on the spare seat pan (with a thin layer of foam underneath).  Eureka!!  Finished it up with some gray naugahyde and been loving it ever since.  It rides lower than the stock seat, it has a nice bucket shape, it doesn't HURT.

8. Still need to put on a sheepskin cover.  Got the skin, no time to fit yet.

My next step would have been a custom seat.  I didn't want to go that way because:
1. I wanted to be there when it was being made, so I could make sure it would work ok.
2. Expense!!!

No, this will not work for everyone, but I thought I would share what didn't work for me.

With all due respect to Sluggo.. yeah, you can get there by "ride, ride, ride"  until you get accustomed to it, but I would rather enjoy the ride while getting there.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/15/07 at 05:15:26

Ok, I'm still new to all this...mods, seat's/seat fixes,etc.

But I almost bought a Kawasaki  because I loved the seat so much :-) Felt so good to sit on.Bucket type.

Are there any seat's/seat fixes similiar to that that will work on the Savage?

I've never seen the gel seats or sat on one or the others ya'll are talking about,so I'm asking this question to see if any are similiar.

What exactly is the Airhawk....is it a seat or something you add to your existing seat?

Also what is the Corbin seat? I think I saw a Savage advertised with that seat on it,but not positive.

Sorry,lots of questions in one post :-)


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/15/07 at 05:24:34

An Airhawk is an inflatable pad strapped to the existing seat.  Corbin is an aftermarket seat manufacturer.  There are a lot of mods that can be done to the seat or to replace it.  Some folks remove the vinyl, shave some of the foam and add gell padding and restaple the vinyl.  Some replace the vinyl entirely with leather or marine grade vinyl.  I went with a one-piece pillowtop leather S40 gel seat on my 98 Savage for a while but several folks whose opinions I respect have reported success with the HD Sportster seat and it can be had on eBay cheaper than most other options.  I decided to give it a try.  It takes a little adaptation to get it mounted, though not a lot, and you can be inventive there too.  I've had one on mine for a few weeks now and am liking it quite a bit so far, though I still have some adjustments to make.  Do some searches and read the stuff in the Tech Ref forum.  There is already a lot of information covered.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by T-Mack1 on 08/15/07 at 10:02:25

I guess looking back to the original thread question, "which is more comfortable", the question really should be asked,..... Are you comfortable on your seat???   Can you go for an long ride and still walk afterwards?   I went for a 3 hr ride on my stock 2001 and was ok, but I'm pretty much an avg built guy.  

If your comfortable on long rides , 3-4 hrs on a nice Saturday afternoon, then spend your money on riding gear or safety equipment.....or toys, or......




Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/15/07 at 11:21:03

Yes, I have just started reading in the Tech forum....Had not been in that forum much at first,didnt understand it  but its getting better to understand due to others help in other forums.

And yes,there is alot of good info there.

As far as the comfort of my seat goes.....if I hadnt of sat on so many other/different bikes when looking for a bike ,I wouldnt have gotten spoiled to the fact of possibly a better seat :-)

I already know I want to change it!But I have wasted some money on stuff due to my little knowledge and wanted to get a better idea of what to do. Dont have alot of money for bike stuff to be wasting it.

So far, the risers sound great...and even the other factory seat for the Savage looks like it would be better than the one I have. I have the textured looking seat,like the S-40's. Don't feel like there's much of a seat under me ,the way it is now :-)
Thanks!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/15/07 at 11:25:22

Just doing the simple mod of raising the front makes a difference and it's a cheap and easy place to start while you think about other options.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/17/07 at 08:42:32

Seat Risers:

Ok guys, I got the bolts(1 3/4" long) , at the hardware store,.....but could not find the ureathane washers.

They had some very small ones but it would have taken about 20 or more to make 1 1/2".

Went to 2 different hardware stores and nothin.
Well actually I couldnt leave without something so I bought Caster sockets :-)They are used to fit up in tubular metal chair legs!? Ya'll can go ahead and laugh :-)

Have no idea if this will work or not!(they're about 1" around and about 1 1/4" long but get smaller at the bottom almost  1/2 " .They are all one piece with a hole through them that fit the bolt pretty well,head wont go through.

But really wanted to ask....how did ya'll find your ureathane washers and are they used for something in particular so I could help the store ppl locate them in the hdwe store.

Is there a certain name for them or ........????

Sorry, but I want to be able to do the seat risers this weekend and wanted to try to get ya'lls help soon enough.I can also get different bolts if needed.

Thanks.....glad ya'll know more than me :-)













Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by youzguyz on 08/17/07 at 08:49:32

You didn't HAVE to use those washers.
Lots of people have used different things:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1109035237

I used the #7 rubber stoppers for mine.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by verslagen1 on 08/17/07 at 08:51:07

Use whatever you can find.  I've heard everything from rubber stoppers and blocks to plastic pipe.  Now caster sockets.  Neccessity is the mother of invention.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/17/07 at 09:36:37

Thanks guys,
Ok....I'll try these(caster sockets) and just see if they will work.....

But I just read that link and the guy (?) said he used
2.5 " bolts......how long of bolts do I need? That long?

My c.sockets are 1 1/4" long.
I only got 1 3/4 " bolts.

Havent taken out the original bolts yet,just got off work(night shift) and can't hardly hold my eyes open :-)

How much longer seat bolts do you need minus the height you want to raise it? Or how long are the original bolts? Sorry, cant figure out how to word that.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by ratdog472 on 08/17/07 at 23:07:04

And if you really would rather have the 2 piece I will trade ya a 2 for a single seat.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage = HD eater on 08/18/07 at 01:06:24


Savage_Rob wrote:
To be honest, I don't think there's a lot of difference between the stock seats, whether two-piece or gunslinger.  In my opinion, the pillowtop gel seat for the S40 is more comfortable than the stock.  I'm now trying out the HD Sportster seat on mine and it seems fairly comfortable so far.  However, I haven't done any long rides with it yet... just 25-30 miles at a stint so far and that never bothered me anyway.


Rob, does the gel seat from the S40 fit the 98 Savage perfectly?  Or is there some adjusting and tweaking to do?


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/18/07 at 01:39:47

Can someone  tell me what length bolts are needed to use for the risers? (I realized I may have the wrong length.)

(and I posted what I'm working with above)

I have looked in the Tech forum and all over here ,read alot of info,but the only post I saw where anyone mentioned length ,they used 2.5",nobody else mentions the length of the bolts!?

I have no tools yet,so I would like to pick up tools and bolts at the same time ,since the Hdwe store is not right down the street.

I really would like to know what length bolts are in there now.If someone could tell me that ,that would be great.

Since I have no Tools yet,I cant take it out to measure it :-)

Thanks!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/18/07 at 08:34:17

Ok,after I got awake good,had my 2nd cup of coffee,and remembered that most things are simple......
I realized,just go buy different length's of bolts!



Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/18/07 at 08:54:14


Savage = HD eater wrote:


Rob, does the gel seat from the S40 fit the 98 Savage perfectly?  Or is there some adjusting and tweaking to do?

Minor mod.  Either bend the metal loop on the fender to be able to slide the bolt tab on the S40 seat underneath it or simply remove the tab from the seat.  I first bent the fender's loop but it was still a pain to have to flex the seat every time I removed/replaced it.  I decided to just drill out the rivets on the tab and remove the tab from the seat entirely.  Then the S40 seat attaches exactly like the original Savage rider seat.  It just has the pillion attached.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by grandpa on 08/19/07 at 11:37:32

I now know why my seat cover doesn't match the backrest pad cover. I never knew I had the gel seat if that is what the smooth cover is!! I hate to think what the stock seat feels like!! Miles in the seat does make it better. Right at 5000 miles now. Will probable do a sportster seat sometime in the future. The closest local Harley dealer says they never have take off seats to sell. Will come across one sooner or later at the price I will pay!!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by eglidegirl on 08/20/07 at 13:28:15

I just put my gel seat on.   (I got it from s40rob - LAST YEAR for god sake it's about time!)  Well..I didn't put it on...the man did it for me.....Finally....anyway..

I was using a Brooklyn Butt Buffer with the stock S40 seat.  http://brooklynbuttbuffer.com/moreinfo.htm

I bought it at a rally after watching a demo.  They put a bunch of nails, screws, pieces of metal on top of a leather bike seat, put the buffer on top of all that junk and had you sit on it.  Honest to god, no kiddin, not one poke in the butt from any of that stuff, simply amazing!  I think I paid about $50 for it (probably because it was a rally special) Online is a little pricey at $72.00 but it's worth every penny...!!

I really love the butt buffer.  It made the stock seat a tad better, but I really needed softer and higher.   The combination of the OEM Gel Seat, the front lift and the butt buffer is just perfect.  Makes a world of difference.

I'm now looking for an upholstery shop that will redo my stock seat like Glenn's.   ;D

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/20/07 at 17:07:29


Glad you got a perfect fit,eglidegirl !

You have a picture of your bike with the new seat on?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/20/07 at 17:10:23

How did Glenn do his seat? Gel? Picture?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by sluggo on 08/20/07 at 18:16:13


youzguyz wrote:
With all due respect to Sluggo.. yeah, you can get there by "ride, ride, ride"  until you get accustomed to it, but I would rather enjoy the ride while getting there.


due respect and sluggo mentioned in the same sentance,  next thing ya know cats and dog's will be living together..  chicken's will break up fights between bunnies.  and god forbid we all end up out by the dumpster.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by eglidegirl on 08/21/07 at 05:53:48

Gotta get one taken yet.  Glenn had his seat professionally redone by an upholster, then decided to go with a solo seat.  Lancer was the lucky dog!  He bought it mere moments before I saw the post putting it up for sale.  Pics here.  Its sweet!

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C08%5C16%5Cbikepics-995385-800.jpg (http://bikepics.com/pictures/995385/)
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C07%5C17%5Cbikepics-966154-800.jpg (http://bikepics.com/pictures/966154/)

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/21/07 at 10:29:09


Ohhhhh.....that is NICE!
Maybe one day soon I'll be able to afford something like that :-)

I wonder if it is as comfortable as it looks,probably so :-)

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by eglidegirl on 08/21/07 at 11:03:50

I figured it was a pricey project as well but I believe it ran somewhere between $130 - $150.

Considering they get $165.99 for a Leather Pillow top S40 OEM Gel Seat, the recover job on the stock seat is actually cheaper and much, much nicer than the stock seat for sure.

If I can find someone to redo my stock seat over the winter, I just may have a Gel seat for sale here next season!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/21/07 at 19:33:36


I did the risers, much easier than I thought,looks good.

But when I sat on it, I realized that my seat needs repadding big time :-( It put me back on the backof the seat and its bad....the padding that is.
Could have been a heavy person that owned it at one time.

So, I noticed my used bicycle that I never ride seems to have a gel seat on it...pretty nice...so I'm going to try to put that on somehow but if I can't,can someone tell me what they use to add padding in the seat.

Or to even put on top of it temporarily :-)

Or....is there a good post on this already,somewhere?


Thanks!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by wrongwayair on 08/23/07 at 17:50:56


eglidegirl wrote:
If I can find someone to redo my stock seat over the winter, I just may have a Gel seat for sale here next season!


I've heard from several fellow riders say this is the best place for seat mods.......if nothing else, the guys should appreciate the pin up girl logo  ;)

http://www.meancitycycles.com/index.html


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/24/07 at 09:02:54


The Pro Pad looks interesting but I didnt see a price on it.

These guys may not be far from me :-)

What about some type of "memory foam"? Sounds like it would be great for a seat....has anyone tried that?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by youzguyz on 08/24/07 at 09:28:29


FreeSpirit wrote:

What about some type of "memory foam"? Sounds like it would be great for a seat....has anyone tried that?


Yes.. tried that too.  My opinion:The stuff you get with pillows and mattresses compressed too far to be of any use as a seat cushion.
Hopefully the stuff they use at Mean City Cycle is better.. and maybe you can find that grade at a decent price.


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/24/07 at 10:55:36

http://www.buttbuffer.com/ has what appear to be very similar pads for sale.


Note:  Typing buttbuffers instead buttbuffer will yield an entirely different sort of site.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/24/07 at 10:57:50

Thanks Youzguyz!

Yes, I'm trying to get the cost from the company now.

You know I didnt see a good post in the tech forum on this.....yet.
There's good stuff about the risers,but not too much on  the seats,so far....I'll keep searching around though,(everywhere :-)

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/24/07 at 11:11:37

There are three seat threads in the Tech Ref forum so far that I know of... one for putting a sportster seat on a Savage, one for putting an S40 gel seat on a Savage and one for lifting the front of the seat.

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by wrongwayair on 08/24/07 at 19:28:23

Don't forget the "soothing the savage seat...." thread to convert the seat yourself.  I may give that a shot this winter unless I buy some add on before then.  

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1184866386;start=0#0

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/25/07 at 00:00:37

Yes,I saw that....it is good!(Soothing the Savage seat)

And I may do that eventually,this winter as well.

But I was thinking more on cheaper/temporary lines,like just ordinary padding for now....I have no clue what to use or where to get it :-)  Guess I need to go to a upholstery shop?! Or buy foam padding at Walmart ?!

Or ...just something on top of seat temporary that's not too expensive.Guess I'll need to use my imagination :-)

But I raised my seat 1 1/2" and its nice to not slide forward but uncomfortable,only due to feels like no padding in the back part of seat now.....so this weekend I'm going to change it to 1" and see if that's better.That may fix it enough for now and maybe add something else underneath  to make up for the rise.That may help also.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by islandwahine on 08/25/07 at 13:41:34


Balderdash wrote:


When you take off your seat, you can see the two bolts that hold down the back of the gas tank.  Those two bolts also hold down the bracket that the plastic clip on the front of the seat goes under when you re-attach the seat.

The idea is to raise that bracket by an inch or two so that the front of the seat is higher and your butt will then stay on the back round part of the seat instead of sliding forward to the skinnier part of the seat and/or riding you up on on the gas tank...

What I did was I went to a hardware store, took off my seat, took out one of the two bolts holding the gas tank down and took that bolt into the store with me.  

I bought two bolts that were the same thread size but one and a half inches longer.  Then I bought 6, 1/2 inch (fat and tall) urathane washers and I used three stacked up on each side so they would be 1 1/2 inches tall with the bolt through them and put them on top of the gas tank mounts.  Then I put the bracket on top of those.  

Thus, the front of my seat is now 1 1/2 inches taller then it was before, making it more comfortable for me to ride the bike.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Ph33r/Gel_Seat/Seat_Lift.jpg

Now I'm utterly confused!
I don't remember the petcork hitting the frame last time I tried to do this! I am not able to lift tank up more then 3/4 inch. How were you able to raise yours that height?
Wait a sec!
You put these on top of the gas tank bracket.
Why does it look like your gas tank is so high?

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by islandwahine on 08/25/07 at 13:51:20

Well I need a better brain or eyes!!
My tank is that high too. Now another question.
those rubber rings under the tank bracket with the metal thing inside, do they stay there? If they do I guess the rubber rings have to have a big enough hole in them for those things to go through.
I'm going to get started, back in a while!

Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by skatnbnc on 08/25/07 at 17:12:18


FreeSpirit wrote:
I do have a little massage pillow that fits behind your neck(great for headaches) and there are tiny little bead things in it. Its actually very comfortable,kinda feels soft in a way but supportive.
Like those?


No, but that is a thought...however, I've never seen one BIG enough! ;)

What they are talking about is a wooden beaded item that is usually placed over a car seat (truckers use them) and the grape size wooden beads move a tiny bit within the open weave, thus preventing areas of stagnation pain.


Title: Re: Different Seats on some Savages
Post by FreeSpirit on 08/25/07 at 17:41:32

Thanks skatnbnc for info.

Actually this one is 9"x 15". Could be a good fit !

But don't know how well it would hold up....sitting on it :-)

Got it at Walmart....it may not hold up long,since its not meant to sit on,but may give it a try.

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