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Message started by DanGill on 07/22/07 at 05:50:17

Title: Mounting a hard case
Post by DanGill on 07/22/07 at 05:50:17

Has anyone mounted a Pelican case or other hard case to a luggage rack on a Savage or S40? I commute on my S40, and I'm looking for a waterproof way to carry my laptop. A hardcase would also give me a place to lock up my jacket and carry other stuff. I was looking at a Pelican 1500, but it seems pretty long and wide. I am also looking at the 1430, which is a tall, narrow case.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Paladin on 07/22/07 at 07:17:39

I have the Leatherlyke cruiser bags (http://www.hoese.com/stores/showprod.cfm?&DID=13&CATID=1&ObjectGroup_ID=4), a bit pricey at $430, but lockable and durable. Not to mention they were easy to mount and look, IMO, rather classy:
http://dsl.andruschak.net/Paladin/images/leatherlyke2_.jpg
Either side can hold two gallons of milk, or a 10# bag of potatos, or a 5-liter box of wine, or a classic leather motorcycle jacket, or....

As for the laptop, since you'll be taking it with you from the bike, why not get a rolling laptop case and add a sissybar mount:
http://paladin.savageriders.com/LuggageOn.jpg(click=video) (http://paladin.savageriders.com/DSCN0334-2.MOV)

If you want the box instead, hoese also makes a topcase to match the cruiser bags -- I would lose the pillion seat, flatten the sissybar, and fabricate brackets to hold the box where the pillion should be to also add a driver's backrest.
With the S40 you could probably make brackets to mount to the siderails to carry the box over the pillion.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by justin_o_guy on 07/22/07 at 09:05:47

I HAD what I thought was a good plan for a hard case on the S40, but, since the daughter is riding it, she nixed my "Big Idea". I have a wooden(1954 model) Lucerne milk crate & a old stop sign I found. The idea was to cut & bend the stop sign into a 3 or so inch tall top, mounted with a piano hinge. Metal shop said they would bend it for $20.00. J-hooks thru the bottom will hook under the seat. 1/8th paneling to line it for waterproofing & boiled linseed oil to protect the wood seemed like a great answer. Low buck & functional, allows locking & by putting a couple of small "eyes" inside, parachute cord & bungees can keep cargo from being slung & damaged, like a laptop. The seat on the Guzzi just isnt shaped right or I would go for it thewre, but the Royal Enfield may work out fine if I get that to ride. I just have a hard time parting with all that $$$ for something as simple as a box with a lid on it. It's possible I have a bit more redneck blood in me than is desirable.

You just may be a redneck if you hit the lottery & have a brick duplicate built of your trailer house.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by gary_ona_savage on 07/22/07 at 09:28:32

Check out this ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/CUSTOM-CYCLE-GEAR-INC

This guy has hard bags and trunks at cheap prices! Cheaper than leather.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by gary_ona_savage on 07/22/07 at 10:23:07

Oh Man! This is it!

A set of these... (with turn signals)

http://www.mutazu.com/products.php?cat_id=7&menu=Hard%20Saddlebags&product_id=39&s=prod.php

Looks nice on this bike (see gallery pictures)

An throw in one of these for the long haul...

http://www.mutazu.com/products.php?cat_id=6&menu=Detachable%20Series&product_id=24&s=prod.php

Bags: $115 (+ 30 shipping)
Mounting: $30
Trunk $115 (+ 30 shipping)

Total: $320 for a sweet touring setup!

[Edited because pictures were not working...sorry]

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Max_Morley on 07/22/07 at 11:06:07

I've done essentially what Paladin describes. Removed the pillion, used the bottom part of the sissy bar in place and welded a bar stock cross bracket to it. It was drilled and tapped to fit the mounting points on an old salvage yard rack. More bar stock was used to create a cantiliver support for the front of the rack that rest on the original pad support points using the same rubber blocks. A GIVI quick detach support then is bolted to that. I think my GIVI bag is 42 l size and will carry 2 helmets or 3 refrigerator case 12 pacs of pop. Did about the same process for B-i-L's 87 but for a smaller J.C.Witney trunk with quick detach plate. I think I still have some pictures around if you want me to send them to you directly, PM me. Max

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by DanGill on 07/22/07 at 11:35:17

Gary, your images didn't come through.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Digger on 07/22/07 at 19:10:57

Not sure if this is big enough for you, but it sure was cheap:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9008/level6ejm7.jpg

Got it years ago at JCW:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2002510/p-2002510/N-111+10211+600014603/c-10111

If you're interested, give me the dimensions of your computer case and I'll go out and measure my hard case for you.

IHTH!

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Max_Morley on 07/22/07 at 21:36:40

They also have a GIVI Chinese sourced knock off about half again as big. It is in theri catalog or I can measure the inside on my B-i-L's for you, Max

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by verslagen1 on 07/22/07 at 22:05:39

I haven't read about this particular one but in another forum they were complaining about the locking plastic mounting plate. It seems the lock is not too secure and falls off in traffic. I asked the seller about this and I got no reply.

At least the JCW trunks all have metal mounting plates. ;D

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Savage_Rob on 07/23/07 at 06:03:28

I had one on mine for a while. It required mounting an extension plate to the stock luggage rack to support it properly and eventually the welds on the luggage rack cracked. I'm planning to have them re-welded sometime soon and try it again for a while. This was almost three years ago but below is how she looked back then.

http://rob.savageriders.com/images/Nadine%202004-09-19%20004.jpg

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by gary_ona_savage on 07/23/07 at 07:36:55

DanGill wrote:

Gary, your images didn't come through.

Yeah. I copied the link from the pictures but the website is refusing them. Just go to the store link and look at the various options of hard cases and trunks.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/07 at 07:39:44

For me and my 240 lb bulk, adding another 50 lb of ATGATT, the thought of pasting anouther 200 lbs to my back is unthinkable (but would like to try!). So for the most part, this is a solo bike. If I were to add a trunk, it would be over the pillion. At least someone would get to use the backrest. ;D

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Paladin on 07/23/07 at 09:06:08

gary_ona_savage wrote:

Yeah. I copied the link from the pictures but the website is refusing them. Just go to the store link and look at the various options of hard cases and trunks.

You need to copy and paste the images to your own host site, gary.savageriders.com. (shamless plug -- I'll set you up for $5/year; includes gary@savageriders.com e-mail.)

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Balderdash on 07/23/07 at 09:18:46

Digger wrote:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9008/level6ejm7.jpg

Okay, okay, I give up, I've been staring and staring at this picture and trying to figure out what I'm looking at, I've got 2 ideas...

1. You live in a bad earthquake area (or on the back of the largest trailer garage I've ever seen) and the garage shakes a lot and so you have to tie your bike down like it's in a trailer. ???

2. Your box on the back weighs SOOOO much that the kickstand will not hold it up because it's center of gravity is too high so you put the block of wood under it, but the block is too big and will knock the bike over on the other side so you tied a strap to the wall to keep it from going over? ;D

so maybe you just tell us why the bike is tied to the wall with a block of wood under the kickstand, please? Maybe it's just easier to work on the bike when it's straight up and down?

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/07 at 09:44:16

He's got it on a short leash, so there wouldn't be a lot of minibikes running around. ;D

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by ErminM on 07/23/07 at 10:44:33

I think he might be checking oil :)

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by skatnbnc on 07/23/07 at 12:57:46

My guess was the whole bike got top heavy with that big back bag, so it is centered (wood block) and leashed to keep from being bumped over. The rubber tire block is to keep the cat from pissing on it. ;D

Actually, I like the minibike and earthquake explainations best. ;)

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/07 at 14:11:55

Is that block a scarecrow in disguise or did he just soak it in citris oil?

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Digger on 07/23/07 at 19:09:43

Balderdash wrote:

Actually, when I took this pic, I was doing some other maintenance on the bike, wanted it level, and was too lazy to put it on the stand.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by DanGill on 07/24/07 at 05:38:15

I have to admit, those Mutazu hard saddlebags look pretty good. Does anyone have a set of those on your bike? I'm a little concerned about the size and clearance on my S40. Also, the dimensions are outside dimensions for a curved form. I'm wondering if my laptop (13 1/2 x 10 1/2 without any padding) would fit.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Savage_Rob on 07/24/07 at 06:03:30

Savage_Rob wrote:

Upon further thought, I think I'll probably look into a way to place the trunk above the pillion with a TourTank behind it.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by verslagen1 on 07/24/07 at 06:59:59

I've been thinking of the same thing. Haven't decided yet though.

remove the pillion, make a 'grab' bar like front brace attached where the front of the saddle bag brackets go. replace the sissy bar with a similar bar and bolt the mounting plate to both bars.

Another idea I've been toying with... I have a 2 1/2 gal gerry can. Just the right size for a tour tank. attach it like a saddle bag and have a similar like bag on the other side. This would work well with the harley seat as is.

Title: Re: Mounting a hard case
Post by Paladin on 07/24/07 at 09:27:28

Looking at Jack_650's trailer hitch mounting (in this thread (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1180314971;start=17#17)):

http://www.savageriders.com/gallery/hitch/Image25t.jpg (http://www.savageriders.com/gallery/hitch/Image25.jpg)

Cut the lower part of the side brackets off, mount a horizonal square tube at the rear to accept a square bar that resembles and replaces the lower/rear part of the trailer hitch -- allows quick connect/disconnect of the hitch part by leaving the side brackets permanently on. In addition or instead, two pairs of vertical square tube sockets, front and rear, to hold an extra large heavy duty over the pillion luggage rack.