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Message started by Probert31 on 07/16/07 at 20:15:54

Title: Blue Flame
Post by Probert31 on 07/16/07 at 20:15:54

To set the story off right, I do have a moderate backfiring issue ( mostly when shifting from 1st to 2nd and when closing the throttle after holding it at 1/4 open for awhile).  So, I was out riding tonight and took a turn down a rather dark road.  That's when I started to see some flashes.  At first I thought that it was lightning and tried to race the storm home.  While standing at a traffic light, I held the throttle open about 1/4 and slammed it shut.  To my amazement, a solid blue flame shot from the tailpipe.  Is this normal for a backfire?  Is there a flame every time I backfire?   I know it's not good for the bike, but to tell the truth, it did look pretty neat.

Title: Re: Blue Flame
Post by BigWes on 07/28/07 at 21:25:14

yeah man, i never saw my flame untill my buddy road mine. When ever a person parks my bike and kills it, i gives off one final defiant POP! and when he did it the tail pipe was facing me (around 1AM in the mountians) and to my amazment there was a cool blue flame that came out. I thought it was awsome and had him do it again to see if it could light a ciggerett, sadly it couldnt. but dont worry about it as long as its a small flash/spark/burst, if its some strange steady flame however, get it check out.

Title: Re: Blue Flame
Post by verslagen1 on 07/28/07 at 22:23:59

The afterfire (commonly called backfire, but backfire is thru the carb) is caused by the epa tuned altra lean carb.  A pop upon closing throttle can be tuned out by readjusting the pilot screw on the right side of the carb.  The screw is hidden as it comes from the factory by a plug.  Most likely you'll have to drill it out to adjust it.  Give it about a 1/4 out (ccw), that fixed it for me.

Other sources of the pop are loose header bolts, torque them with the engine dead cold to 15 to 20 ft-lbs.

Or the slip on muffler clamp can be loose.

Also check the carb duct clamps, a leak thru there can cause it too.   ;D

p.s. sorry about the late reply.  we must've been deep into another discussion.  Give us a shout if we don't reply.

Title: Re: Blue Flame
Post by Strafford_Guy on 07/29/07 at 04:21:39

verslagen1 or anyone who can answer, where would the carb duct clamps be located and would anyone of these clamps being loose   cause a slight loss in power?
Thanks

Title: Re: Blue Flame
Post by grandpa on 07/29/07 at 04:43:39

The carb sits in two rubber tubes (ducts) that are clamped just like a water hose on a radiator. If the the one between the carb and the motor was loose enough you could possible suck enough air to lean out enough to cause problems. Should be able to snug the clamps up from the side of the motor.

Title: Re: Blue Flame
Post by Strafford_Guy on 07/29/07 at 04:52:22

Thanks for the reply Grandpa. I will take a look.

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