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Message started by Dog_Folks on 06/25/07 at 07:00:06

Title: Tire Life?
Post by Dog_Folks on 06/25/07 at 07:00:06

Greetings all,

We just stepped up to the lightweight Savage.  We have his and hers 2007 model year.  Great bikes.  In many ways, they have brought back the "fun" of riding a bike.

After many years of riding heavyweight bikes (Harley), we expected about 10 K miles from the tires.  No burnouts, etc.  Just typical riding.

Can we expect anything different from the S-40?   Maybe more due to the lighter weights?

Thanks for your input.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by ALfromN.H. on 06/25/07 at 07:14:22

Expect alot less than 10k on the stock tires. I replaced my stock rear tire with about 7k miles on it and that was really pushing it. It was really bald. The stock front tire is still going strong with over 8k on it but will probably not make it through the summer. I replaced the rear with a dunlop 404 and will use the same tire on the front when the time comes.

AL

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by smokey02 on 06/25/07 at 07:52:02

Welcome Dog_Folks

I got my 96 used with 6500 miles and the previous owner had already put new Dunlop 404s on it. I've put another 11K so far on the Dunlops and they are still in good condition (not at the wear bars yet). I mostly commute city streets to work, and some 2 up on weekends, and I ride it pretty easy. So yes, I think over 10K is very likely with better tires than the stock ones.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by Max_Morley on 06/25/07 at 09:15:54

Use the search feature and you will find lots of posts on tire life and selection. Max

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by jkhulon73 on 06/25/07 at 10:19:30

I experienced the joy of changing my own tires last week- actually just the front one. I think I lost about ten pounds while getting the bead over the rim- it's so dry here lately, the soapy water evaporated after about 20 seconds.

Luckily, the thing needed no additional balancing- checked it several times 'cause I couldn't believe it. I haven't really worked up the drive to put the rear one on yet. It seems it would be a bit easier, though, being a wider rim- more room for the first bead to get out of the way of the second...

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by geo on 06/25/07 at 20:33:40

The stock rear tire on my 2002 lasted 3500 miles, the front lasted 5000 miles. These tires were junk. I changed to Metzlers from Tires Unlimited. These are holding up much better.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/26/07 at 02:02:05

I should have changed the rear long before the 5,000 miles I stretched it to. The front made it to 12,000, but was so cupped up it made trying to run thru long sweepers like riding a drunk cow. You are well aware of the differences in riding style & the resultant tire life differences. I could get twice the mileage I get, but I might as well drive a car if I am gonna ride like that. I dont reall know how much of the rear wear is caused by acceleration, but I am sure I scrape a bit of rubber off during hard downshifting. I got 5,000 on a Maxxiss & 3, 000 on another Maxxiss, same model. Next one is a Dunlop 404, I think I could get 6 or 7 K easy enough if I would just quit playing hard in corners & running on  things & slowing down as fast as I can.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/26/07 at 05:35:54

I've got nearly 7K miles on my Dunlop 491's with lots of tread to go.  I haven't been particularly hard on them; mostly a mix of suburban and freeway riding with the occasional country roads when I can get time.  I rarely do a lot of heavy leaning but sometimes it just feels good.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by pa.storm on 06/26/07 at 15:36:33

I got just over 10k on the stock tires on my '01. Put another IRC on the rear and about 5k miles later its showing the wear.  I might have about another 1k left on them. :-/  I also moved from PA to WV after the change so the difference in the roads down here might be to blame.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by Polar_Pilot on 06/27/07 at 16:23:19

Although my tires were still pretty good in 2003 I switched over to Metzler tires front and rear.

I have run the Metzlers over 12,000 kms so far and the treads are about half gone.

I am a big fan of Metzlers - I use them on three of my bikes and have been 100% satisfied both the the tread wear and the handling characteristics.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by firsts40 on 06/27/07 at 17:44:08

I have 5700 on my 06 S40 with the factory tires, and the front still looks great.  The back is still in good condition, and I expect it to last at least another couple of K's.  I do a lot of highway riding also, but I am a conservative rider, moderate excelleration and braking, and there is nothing like a good twisty, but I still ride conservative.  Did I mention also I live in South Mississippi.  Also would you believe I still have the little rubber threads hanging on both tires.
:o :o

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/27/07 at 19:08:40

Those little rubber threads that poke out are worn out first toward the center of the tire. More gradually, toward the outter edges. As riders lean harder into turns, the outter "Threads" are worn off. Since it takes a bit of bravery & or experience to lean hard enough to wear the outtermost threads off, & since a "Chicken" wont lean that far, they are called"Chicken Strips". I can get the outside strip on the front tire, but there is no chikkin strip on the rear.

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by firsts40 on 06/27/07 at 19:38:39

OK OK, so I'm a chicken.  But I still enjoy riding just the same.   ;D ;D ;D 8)

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/28/07 at 07:07:26

OOOps, amazing what a missing letter does, I can'T get the outside one on the front. I can on the rear. I just dont get geometry. Some of these guys can explain how & why a bike turns & why narrower tires make it handle better. Me? Uh uhhh, I just celebrate surviving the corners. Dont let anyone ever make ya feel like you need more lean or you arent riding. In another forum I hang out in, a guy is taking his bike to a track to run & not be afraid of a ticket & be able to go as fast as he dares. The advice he got that I thought was most intelligent was to not race anyone but himself & leave the ego at home. I sure wasnt trying to do more than explain what chikkin strips are, not to try to get anyone to wear theirs off.

I Have seen a corner speed get better when I actually leaned less, so lean isnt all there is to making good time in a corner.

It's your sandbox, play the way that makes you happy.  ;)

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by firsts40 on 06/28/07 at 07:45:00

Oh I know.  I have my comfort zone and that is where I ride.   You can feel it when your comfort zone starts getting pushed to the limit.  Also my comment about being a chicken was only in fun.
:)

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by Dr_Jim on 06/28/07 at 08:13:07

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Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/28/07 at 08:38:19


Dr_Jim wrote:
Hey guys ...

No hijacking!

Can't you see this is the re-tired folks thread?

;D ;D ;D

Jim

http://www.retreads.org/

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by BOOMER_1947 on 06/28/07 at 10:33:05

Just reading it seems like the stock IRC stock tires are generally not liked.  My '03 Savage now has 21,000 miles on it, and my 140/80 IRC  rear tire lasted 13,000 miles and the front is still on the bike, although it is needing to be replaced.  I have had no complaints about those tires and they are less expensive than just about any tire I have looked at,    Ken in Fort Worth,TX    :-/

Title: Re: Tire Life?
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/28/07 at 13:54:54

I would like to follow someone for a few miles if they have that many miles on a tire. My riding style is just too harsh, I know. The guy I buy everything from that I dont get online has a customer who gets 15,000 on rear tires on his Goldwing. They call him Cautious carl, A very careful, very smooth rider. I wish I could do ti that way, I just dont have it inb me. Congrats on the long l;ife you get from the tires. Ill bet the rest of the bike appreciates your style, too.

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