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Message started by SteveRocket on 06/20/07 at 22:26:58

Title: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by SteveRocket on 06/20/07 at 22:26:58

I just bought but have not yet received a Supertrapp muffler for my bike. It came off another Savage. Mine is an '87 so if nothing has been changed from stock the main jet should be a 155. Do you think I will see any performance increase just by putting it on or will I need to rejet or replace the carb to make a difference?. Either way it should sound better
Steve

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by stinger on 06/21/07 at 03:37:08

Steve, I ran my 02 savage with a supertrapp, a K@N air filter and stock jetting. It had tons more pull and power than with the stock exhaust. It also made the bike sound like a real motorcycle instead of a lawn mower. Not as deep or throaty as a Harley but close. The instructions with the supertrapp says to run it with stock jetting unless your going to be using more than 8 discs. It ran fine this way, with no backfiring at all anymore. Last week Gregg D changed my pilot and main jet to a 155 and it even has more power now and stronger pull from 60 to 70 plus. Im still running only 8 discs. Id run it stock for a while and see how it runs first before rejetting. Also run it on the rich side and the bluing on the single walled exhaust will be at a minumum. 26,000 miles and the supertrapp is a light golden color and no discoraltion at all on the exhaust pipe.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/21/07 at 04:32:20

With a 155, I'm thinking you'll have to retune/adjust but not rejet.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/21/07 at 10:13:28

My Trapp has 14 baffles on it. Running a 152.5 main, stock pilot on an 05 model. It is finally acting like it may be just about right. Its been rich for a long time. Now, when I slam the throttle shut I sometimes get a small Boof. I am considering going to a 150 main & pulling baffles if needed to ballance the thing a bit more to the lean side. Its very close now. I am in East Tx, Longview, & cant remember the elevation, but it is a factor, so get to factorin! Good luck, I think you will like the sound of that Trapp.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/21/07 at 10:40:31

I was very similar with my MAC when I had the stock carb installed. The overall feel of the bike with the 152.5 and 155 were the same but the mileage was worse with the 155.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by SteveRocket on 06/23/07 at 11:55:49

got my Super trap yesterday, put it on this morning sounds much better, Not sure if there is any performance increase yet. Just enjoying the sound right now.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/23/07 at 22:18:18

Some day I will remember to run some time trials before I do any mods. Well, Maybe its too late. Ive already messed with the airbox, changed the cam, jetted, put a Supertrappon it, put the hotter plug in it & now, I guess I have given it to my daughter. Looks like all I will be changing now is oil & tires & stuff like that.

But, for you folks who are still messing with them, trying to get more out of them, I will say, if I had just been a little more scientific, I think I could have avoided some questions in my own mind & frustration. It would have been nice to be able to quantify the differences after each change.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by SteveRocket on 06/24/07 at 18:52:16

Bike does seem a bit more punchy now or It could be my imagination. It sounds better and it does not seem to pop back much more than before except when cold,so I presume it's just a little bit leaner I am running 8 baffles right now. I might re-jet and added some more later.
Ride Safe
Steve

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/24/07 at 19:08:53

Maybe open the intake a bit, desnorkel that thing, its a 5 minute job. Pop the seat, rip the snorkel out, put the seat back & run another time trial, to see if it helped.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by stinger on 06/25/07 at 03:17:03

Steve, seriously invest in a low restricted air filter like the K@N. It made mine run better. It breathes better! I noticed a bigger difference in power more by changing the air filter to a K@N than rejetting..... And you have to admit it sure sounds cool when you back off from 3rd or 4th gear!

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by SteveRocket on 06/25/07 at 15:19:54

do you mean the drop in type or the cone type ?. As I might end up riding in the rain from time to time (not very often in California) would keeping the airbox and putting in a drop-in K & N be best?. Also would that make it even more lean witrh greater airflow?

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by SteveRocket on 06/25/07 at 15:20:39

Oh Yes I do love the sound too. lol

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/25/07 at 18:54:18

I put the drop in in mine. I havent calculated the square inches of one versus the other. I also modded the airbox a bit, to increase the volume between the filter element & the carb.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by geo on 06/25/07 at 19:48:02

It sounds like an old Ford flat-head with glasspacs with the SuperTrapp when you back off.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/07 at 20:29:08

my supertrapp is turning blue?

But the header is normal gold.

whaaaaaaat! ???

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/27/07 at 05:28:40

verslagen1 wrote:

my supertrapp is turning blue?

But the header is normal gold.

whaaaaaaat! ???

Paint it black!

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/27/07 at 08:47:46

S/trapp includes in their installation instyructions directions for Cleaning & polishing the NEW exhaust, else it will discolor. Did you clean it of the manufacturing oils? Ive posted this no fewer than 3 times in the [past.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/07 at 08:55:46

yes, it was cleaned.

The area in question is at the clamp. And it is hot (240°C or hotter) enough to melt the jacket on the brake light cable.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/27/07 at 09:12:16

Yikes, Dude, so you are litteraly having a meltdown? When ya park, the heat is so great it's melting that rubber? Man, I havent looked to see what your carb is set up like, but richer might be in your future. Mine is bluing at the small end some.but my rubber sleeve doesnt seem affected at all.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/07 at 11:22:04

I had the stock 145 in there when I first put the super on. Blueing at the small end right away.

About a week later put in a 150 and 3 disks. Blueing seems to be getting worse.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/27/07 at 17:18:53

Seriously, if its melting that rubber that far away, somethng is way too hot. Is it possible somethng got on it to attack the rubber? I have no idea what could do it, just asking.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/07 at 19:23:51

no it was definitely hot. about an inch from the clamp.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by Max_Morley on 06/27/07 at 21:59:59

I had the same thing happen and found I had an exhaust leak that directed the exhaust blast that way, mine got the covering on the brake light switch, but I took off and lubed it ans managed to make t last 3 more years before I installed the new one I had in the drawer. Max

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/07 at 22:09:55

Thanks, I'll check it for leaks.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by justin_o_guy on 06/28/07 at 06:16:15

I hope thats it, cuz that rubber is really quite a ways from the pipe. If theres no leak & its that hot, man, that dude is scorching! G'luck, Ver.

Title: Re: Supertrapp Muffler
Post by verslagen1 on 07/24/07 at 09:10:38

I had a chance to check it closely after I met up with steverocket and looked at his. We both had the same blueing.

His was leaking a bit, definite carbon trails at the slits.

Mine however is not. I probably don't even need a clamp it's so tight.