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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> NEWBIE about to buy.... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1180206341 Message started by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 12:05:41 |
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Title: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 12:05:41 I have an opportunity to buy a 2005 Suzuki LS 650 S40 Savage Boulevard for $2950. It has 475 miles (yes hundred) on her and comes with saddle bags and a windshield. It's very clean and I couldn't find any blemishes at all. It's being sold by a great guy who had some foot issues and can not ride. Any advice on this purchase? Is it a no-brainer or should I look for other issues? Any advice for this Noob? |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Oldfeller2 on 05/26/07 at 12:13:02 Buy it, quick. I paid $2,700 for an '02 with about the same mileage on it about a year ago and never regretted it for a second. Read up about your mods that you need to do -- it's a great bike that can be a lot better with some minor tweeks and tricks. Gotta read your Wikipedia listing too -- got to air all them nasty downsides with you so you will know I am being all fair and impartial and telling you the real story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_LS650_Savage ::) Oldfeller |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by allan on 05/26/07 at 12:54:19 yep go for it at that price ;) allan. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Reelthing on 05/26/07 at 13:36:18 Kelly Blue Book (KBB.com) lists it for $3030 with normal milage - this one's very low with some very useful add ons - buy it |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by justin_o_guy on 05/26/07 at 14:54:59 What? You surely aren't stillreading are you? Go Get that Bike man,, What a great deal.. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 17:04:01 I guess the answer is yes..... ;D Now I just have to convince the wife that it's such a great deal! I'll take any advice there as well.... ::) Thanks all. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by WD on 05/26/07 at 18:40:02 Mine has turned in a high of 85 mpg...averages in the mid-70s mpg... A little gas goes a long way? Tell her the money you save on gas could buy her somethig nice? Although she'd probably hold you to it... -WD |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 18:52:53 Oldfeller2 wrote:
I checked out the Wiki article...didn't say much in the way of what needs to be done. I assume I should be able to use the search featue here and get all the info I need...right? Thanks for the tips. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 18:57:56 WD wrote:
If she can remember things I said to her in an argument we had six years ago, you can bet She will hold me to it! ;) Nonetheless, that's a great angle, I think I'll use it... I spoke to the seller today and he said he will hold the Savage for me until the banks open on Tuesday if I give Him $100.00 deposit. He's a good guy...I rekon i will be at the ATM tomorrow morning and I'll probably be lurking on these boards most of this evening...Mua Ha Ha Ha.... |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by ALfromN.H. on 05/26/07 at 19:02:05 Welcome to the Savage community. You may have a little explaining to do to your wife when you come home with a big ear-to-ear smile every day. I caught myself doing that on the way to work this morning, riding along smiling from ear to ear. I never smiled on my way to work before I got "Thumper". AL |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/26/07 at 21:41:02 I wouldn't buy the bike if I were you. Once you get a Savage or S40 you'll be trapped. I've been in here for 3 years and I can't get out. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/26/07 at 21:50:00 Greg_650 wrote:
Is there a support group or twelve step program for me in case my life becomes unmanageable? |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/26/07 at 22:12:21 BornOnFire wrote:
No. Once you're in you can't get out...including the counselors. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/27/07 at 02:56:06 Quote:
My situation as well ... 'cept I've been here for 4 years ;D |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/27/07 at 06:28:50 PerrydaSavage wrote:
Yeah, I spent that additional year trapped in a parallel universe.... |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by YonuhAdisi on 05/27/07 at 10:20:34 BornOnFire wrote:
Step 1: Wake up Step 2: Get dressed Step 3: Go outside/Garage whichever is applicable Step 4: Put on helmet, if no helmet you can skip this step Step 5: Put key in ignition Step 6: Straddle bike Step 7: Turn ignition to on Step 8: Pull in clutch lever Step 9: Raise kickstand Step 10: Press starter button Step 11: Smile as you rev engine and feel the horses straining to be released underneath you. Step 12: Stop reading this 12 step program and ride you heart out. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/27/07 at 14:56:52 Careful not to skip step #2 right... ;) Looks like the deal will happen. I have the deposit down and the seller is holding the bike for me. I can't believe this thing only has 435 miles on it. Is that even considered "Broken In" yet? Anyone have suggestions on first things to look at/do to the bike when I bring her home? |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/27/07 at 15:07:58 BornOnFire wrote:
For as long as you plan to be in this asylum there will be things to do to it. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by WD on 05/27/07 at 21:27:10 Change the oil and brake fluid. Give the gas a sniff test, if fresh you are good to go. Any hint of varnish or paint thinner smell, drain the tank and carb bowl and put in fresh gas plus 2-3 ounces of Seafoam or STP gas treatment. Air the tires up to within 5 psi of sidewall max pressure (better handling and fuel economy). Lube the cables, all 3 of them. Gas, clutch and rear brake. 3 in 1 oil, Tri-flow, motor oil, doesn't matter. Just don't use chain lube or WD40. Ride the wheels off of it. Have fun. -WD |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by georgekathe on 05/27/07 at 21:58:37 'fraid I disagree with the last entry as far as tire pressures. there should be a small decal on the belt guard with the recommended tire pressures (also in the handbook which if you are lucky is not missing but still with the bike). personally I set them to a couple of lbs but no more over recommendation - just a thing I've always done. tire pressures vary from bike to bike & as your tires are made for a range of bikes any pressures shown on sidewall is unlikely to be the one for your bike. I just went to check on the pressures on a note I have inside a cabinet in my garage - here they are - Front Rear Solo 29 psi 33 psi With Passenger 29 psi 36 psi these are trhe recommended ones - like I said presonally I set them just a couple of lbs - no more - over that for fuel economy - any more I'd worry about incorrect tire wear. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by verslagen1 on 05/27/07 at 22:09:52 Are you still using stock tires? |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/27/07 at 23:05:15 George is right! Max. pressure on the tire is determined by the tire manufacturer. Max. pressure on the bike is determined by the bike manufacturer. They have the final say. Do you think that a Mezeler 880 mounted on a Savage would be the same if mounted on a Vulcan? Absolutely not. The Vulcan is heavier and the pressure might be different. Why is this always such an question? It's written down for us. It doesn't matter the make of the tire. All that matters is what's in your MOM or what's on the steering head. The maximum pressure on the side of the tire is just to keep us from getting knocked on our ass because we followed bad advice. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by WD on 05/28/07 at 00:34:47 I've never had a problem running within 5 psi of max sidewall pressure. It gives a bit harsher ride, but for me, the improved handling is worth it. I found the front end wallowed and the rear squirmed a bit too much running factory pressure settings. So I went up on the pressure until I found an acceptable level of ride versus handling. I've done the same with every bike I've owned. Each rider is different, if the factory setting works for you, great. If you need to run more pressure, run more pressure. Just don't exceed the sidewall max. -WD |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Greg_650 on 05/28/07 at 05:41:01 There's both sides of the debate. You have 2 choices.... - do it the way that you want. - do it the way that's recommended. Simple :P |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by Paladin on 05/28/07 at 08:12:06 As A tech, I like to explain to the client why we do things the way we do. A picture is worth a thousand words: http://paladin.savageriders.com/TirePressure.gifTires are designed to carry a specific weight with a specific air pressure. Too little pressure and the tire flattens out and the sidewalls flex and your handling goes wonkers. Off-roaders, when driving over soft sand, let air out of the tires to give a larger patch so as to not sink in. Too much pressure and the tire does flatten and your contact patch with the road is smaller. A smaller patch means less traction. On the other hand, a smaller patch and stiffer sidewalls mean less tire flex, less heat buildup, and less rolling resistance. For highway use you increase tire pressure for increased gas mileage. The compromise, in the middle, gives you a larger contact patch for the most traction while maintaining a reasonably stiff sidewall for precise handling. With the weight of a passenger pushing down on the rear tire, you need a few more pounds of pressure for the tire to maintain the optimum shape. |
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Title: Re: NEWBIE about to buy.... Post by BornOnFire on 05/28/07 at 13:11:13 I'm always amazed at how much theory and varied opinions go into tire pressures. While I never condone going against Manuf. Recomendations, I do admit that I try and stay on the higher side of PSI to conserve gas on long trips. Side wall wear is another bad habit I try to avoid. Overall, I appreciate and take most everyone's suggestions to heart and then come up with a formula that suits my driving and trip type. More importantly, though, I try and never loose site of the fact that the only thing between my a$$ and the asphalt is that little layer of rubber. |
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