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Message started by Jonny_Chicago on 05/24/07 at 19:17:51

Title: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Jonny_Chicago on 05/24/07 at 19:17:51

Hey guys, got a problem, wondering if you could help.  I was driving on the highway today on my way to school.  As soon as I started to shift, my clutch cable fell out of the handle squeeze.  In astonishment I immediately got on the shoulder.  While driving, I had to shift, without a clutch; I had to shift down and up, making it :'(grind...It is at school now.  The little round piece that connects to the cable is gone and is ripped from the cable.  Just a little single strain of cable is protruding.

To make a long story short, I need a new clutch cable.  Can I do it myself??, I am not highly mechanical, but I have changed oil and stuff.  Should I tow it and have someone work on it.  Right now it is sitting at school.  Not sure what to do, the cable is broke.  Any suggestions?  I have the day off tomorrow and want to get it fixed. Could there be transmission damage from driving without a clutch?? I did not accelerate over 30mph and drove about 15 miles.  I had to stop a couple of times and start out without a clutch, bobbing and jerking. It was horrible!!!

Any input and help is much appreciated

I miss my savage!!!

Thanks
Jonny :-[ :'(

P.S. The cable seem to be sticking alot before it broke, I though WD40 would help, but got harder to shift today on the way to work.  Those were the events leading up to the heart wrenching episode!

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by justin_o_guy on 05/24/07 at 23:01:24

Year model? Mileage? Sounds like the leverage afforded by the lever managed to yank the end right off the cable. So, is the problem inside the cablle housing or the clutch? I would look closely at the "saddle" the cable hooks into on the clutch actuator arm & see if it's raised in the middle. If so, I think that would be an indicator the Drag is in the clutch. I doubt that'
s the case, but would look. Also, a good sized crescent will open & allow you to actuate the clutch by putting the wrench on the actuator arm & push down on the handle. YOu can feel of the clutch that way. Just sticking a cab;le on is no big deal. If you can change the oil you can do the cable.


Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/25/07 at 04:59:14

You can do it yourself.  Cables are available at places like CrotchRocket.com (http://www.crotchrocket.com/) and RonAyers.com (http://www.ronayers.com/).  Just use the parts fiche.

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by barry68v10 on 05/25/07 at 05:19:00

Johnny, WD40 is basically kerosene...a good solvent, but not a good lubricant.  If there was any lubrication left in your cable (doesn't sound like there was) you likely "cleaned" the rest of it out with the WD40.

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by vroom1776 on 05/25/07 at 05:45:46

a machine shop at work or nearby may be able to help.  bring them what you got left.  they may be able to make a new one quickly with the old parts.  to simply repair it is unlikely, though, is my guess.

use cable lube in the future.

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Paladin on 05/25/07 at 06:10:08

Broke my clutch cable also!  SEE THREAD (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1115449586)

Replacing the clutch cable does not require removing any other parts.   Tape a pull string to the old clutch cable and pull the cable out, leaving the string in it's place.  Tape the new cable to the string and pull it in.  If you are doubtful as to how to secure a string to a cable so it will not pull off ask and I'll make a blog entry to cover that.


Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Greg_650 on 05/25/07 at 06:43:51


Paladin wrote:
Broke my clutch cable also!  SEE THREAD (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1115449586)

Replacing the clutch cable does not require removing any other parts.   Tape a pull string to the old clutch cable and pull the cable out, leaving the string in it's place.  Tape the new cable to the string and pull it in.  If you are doubtful as to how to secure a string to a cable so it will not pull off ask and I'll make a blog entry to cover that.

Spoken like someone that has pulled a few wires :P  Yep.  Good suggestion providing the cable isn't clamped too tightly under the tank somewhere.

Definitely, try that first.  If it doesn't work, you'll have to pull the seat and tank.

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/25/07 at 07:18:29

WD-40 is far from kerosene.  Though its primary use is for water displacement as an anti-corrosive and protectant, it is a lubricant though a thin one.  I actually use Cable Life (http://www.protectall.com/cable_life.htm) on mine.

Here's an interesting link to WD-40 History (http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html).

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Oldfeller2 on 05/25/07 at 08:39:44

In my very broke early marrage days I had to repair a clutch cable as I couldn't wait until the replacement could come in.  If the nib is still inside your handle (retained by frayed broken wires) you could try to do the following if you are really desperate.

Take the handle off, get the nib out.  Drill out the broken off wire.  Back drill the "far side" of the nib slightly larger about half way through.  Clean and trim the broken off steel cable end.  Stop and look at the amount of steel cable protruding from the jacket -- is it the appropriate amount or is it too short now?

If too short, pull the steel cap off the outer cable jacket and trim some off the length of the outer jacket (yeah, you gotta pull the inner cable out of the way to do this).  Put the steel cap back on the outer cable and stick your inner back through.  

Thread your little nylon semi circle bearing thngy on there now (since our modern bikes have them as friction reducers) but make sure it is way up the cable away from the nib soldering heat or you will melt it)

Clean your inner cable real good with carb cleaner.  Stick it through the nib then fray up the very end a little bit with a pair of pliers.  Pull it back "inside" the relief area you drilled in the nib, then solder it in place with 95-5 solder.  Make sure the solder wicks up the cable a tad, but try not to go very far up past the nib or this stiffness can cause you a problem.  Grind off the remaining protruding frayed wires to match the contour of the nib (reshape your solder blob) then regrease the end and reinstall the cable.

My bootleg repair lasted as long as the original cable (my silver solder job was solid) but I was a little bit shorter on total free cable steering head play.  

It was really too much trouble to do this, but I couldn't be down for 2 weeks waiting for a cable as my wife drove the car and I rode my bike back when we were first married.

Another alternative is to take the removed cable to a bike shop and buy a slightly longer cable from another bike.  They can match you up one off the nib size and the steel outer jacket cap size.

Good luck.

Oldfeller

(Modern nonsense -- is the current nib made of steel or is it made from zinc?  If it is made from zinc you may need to make yourself a nib out of a piece of solderable material to get this repair to work right)

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Greg_650 on 05/25/07 at 09:02:37

I did that once too :)

Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Paladin on 05/25/07 at 18:41:21


Greg_650 wrote:

Spoken like someone that has pulled a few wires :P  Yep.  Good suggestion providing the cable isn't clamped too tightly under the tank somewhere.

Definitely, try that first.  If it doesn't work, you'll have to pull the seat and tank.
A bit more than a few -- closer to a hundred miles than none . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000062.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000635.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000671.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000695.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000912.html)
It's always worth a try.  Anywho, wrote up a how to on tieing a string to a cable so it will not come off no matter how hard you pull -- http://dslretorts.com/wire/


Title: Re: EMERGENCY: HELP!! CLUTCH CABLE BROKE!
Post by Greg_650 on 05/25/07 at 19:12:03


Paladin wrote:

A bit more than a few -- closer to a hundred miles than none . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000062.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000635.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000671.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000695.html) . (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000912.html)
It's always worth a try.  Anywho, wrote up a how to on tieing a string to a cable so it will not come off no matter how hard you pull -- http://dslretorts.com/wire/


No, I agree...Good idea.

Just merely identifying with your background :)


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