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Message started by strangeling67 on 05/21/07 at 20:36:30

Title: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by strangeling67 on 05/21/07 at 20:36:30

What slipon or full pipe for the savage won't discolor ?

I run a Jardine right now but it has a disclored 2" ring around the chrome just before the baffle and I have noticed the same thing on other savage owners Jardine pics.

Thanks

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Greg_650 on 05/21/07 at 20:39:33

Any black ones....

Anything else takes more work :P

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by serowbot on 05/21/07 at 22:45:37

Blued pipes are cool!!

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Violent_Rage on 05/22/07 at 03:21:34


serowbot wrote:
Blued pipes are cool!!


yes, but not rusted...  :-[

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by LANCER on 05/22/07 at 05:41:17

The Hard Krome mufflers we had last year are a double wall design and as far as I know there have been no reports of discoloration on them.  I picked them up from the Dennis Kirk eBay store clearance rack.  Go to ebay motors, then to the stores, then search for "dk-trader".


Here, this is easier ...

http://stores.ebay.com/DK-Trader

I just did a quick check and they are REALLY short on slipon mufflers, no Hard Krome at all.
There must be a new manager in charge of their ebay store now too, I have noticed a big price increase this year for virtually everything.  It is not nearly as fun to shop there as in the past.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/22/07 at 06:05:17


LANCER wrote:
The Hard Krome mufflers we had last year are a double wall design and as far as I know there have been no reports of discoloration on them.  I picked them up from the Dennis Kirk eBay store clearance rack.  Go to ebay motors, then to the stores, then search for "dk-trader".


Here, this is easier ...

http://stores.ebay.com/DK-Trader

I just did a quick check and they are REALLY short on slipon mufflers, no Hard Krome at all.
There must be a new manager in charge of their ebay store now too, I have noticed a big price increase this year for virtually everything.  It is not nearly as fun to shop there as in the past.

I have one I bought new from Lancer and used for about 4-5 months.  I really like the sound and it's built like a muffler inside a separate heavy chrome housing.  The internal portion may be discoloring but not the outside.  At the moment it's wrapped up and in storage in the garage because it's just too much bling on a bike that is slowly becoming more and more flat black.  I already had my MAC blacked out and I couldn't bring myself to black out the Hard Krome.

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Post by Violent_Rage on 05/22/07 at 06:51:09

do you have a pic?

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by strangeling67 on 05/22/07 at 09:31:24

Can you paint a chrome muffler black ? If so what paint would be used and what preparation would it need ?

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/22/07 at 11:36:35


Violent_Rage wrote:
do you have a pic?

Here's what it looked like installed.
http://rob.savageriders.com/images/Nadine%202006-08-13%20003.jpg

Here's what she looks like now.
http://rob.savageriders.com/images/Nadine%202007-05-13%20002.jpg



strangeling67 wrote:
Can you paint a chrome muffler black ? If so what paint would be used and what preparation would it need ?

Yes.  To get it to stick properly, you'll need clean, rough up and re-clean the surface.  Something like the stuff below is intended for exhausts, though some folks have used BBQ Black instead.  I believe the stuff made for exhausts withstands greater heat though.  I found some at Autozone with silica and ceramic that is supposed to be good to 2000° F.  In the first image above, my header was painted with it.  In the second image above, my MAC muffler is painted with it and the header has been professionally ceramic coated.  When that paint begins to wear off the muffler, I'll probably get it professionally ceramic coated too.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/images/us//local/products/detail/p13652.jpg (http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=741&itemType=PRODUCT)

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by strangeling67 on 05/22/07 at 12:29:20

Hey Savage Rob, that looks sweet !  Was it expensive to get the ceramic coat and what kind of place do I look up in the yellow pages that does the ceramic painting ?


Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by LANCER on 05/22/07 at 14:27:46

Yep, BLACK is the new black.  When mine is resurrected it will be black on BLACK.  Well, I may throw in a tad of charcoal on the frame, for just a shadow of contrast.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/23/07 at 05:21:12


strangeling67 wrote:
Hey Savage Rob, that looks sweet !  Was it expensive to get the ceramic coat and what kind of place do I look up in the yellow pages that does the ceramic painting ?

See last week's Ceramic Coated Header (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1178810607) thread.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by borne2fly on 05/24/07 at 17:41:59

Some folks have the pipes re-chromed using "black chrome", ..... looks beautiful, and it hides the discoloration.

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Post by onedivision on 05/27/07 at 18:57:33

Just wanted to say that pipe looks GREAT! Black on black is quite impressive Good Job - John BTW, would you happen to know the O.D. of a stock S-40 muffler?

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/27/07 at 19:19:31


onedivision wrote:
Just wanted to say that pipe looks GREAT! Black on black is quite impressive Good Job - John BTW, would you happen to know the O.D. of a stock S-40 muffler?

Thanks, I like the black a lot too.  Sorry, I don't have that measurement though.

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Post by justin_o_guy on 05/27/07 at 21:25:47

I got 4.108, but I used 6" callipers& that meant I had to use a couple (ohhh, man, can't think of the names of them, crappola, this is getting too regular an event) Okay, ruler with a slide on it that makes a 90 degree angle, or a 45. So, I set them to cross with the 90 against the muffler & made the rulers parallel, measured between the 90's. I only have 2 hands so it might be off a hair. The callipers only have about 1.5" long jaws, so I couldnt just measure it, dangitt.

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Post by borne2fly on 05/27/07 at 21:37:45

Savage_Rob ............... off the subject, but where did you find those saddle bag mounts? I like 'em.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by stinger on 05/28/07 at 01:11:45

What is black chrome? never heard of it?

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/28/07 at 01:20:17


borne2fly wrote:
Savage_Rob ............... off the subject, but where did you find those saddle bag mounts? I like 'em.

Those are the standard Suzuki saddlebag supports.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by onedivision on 06/10/07 at 20:27:58

Just got my crappy Emgo Pipe on & 10 miles later, the darned thing is half-bronzed! Any cure for that other than ceramic or tossing it? >:(

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/11/07 at 07:57:28


onedivision wrote:
Just got my crappy Emgo Pipe on & 10 miles later, the darned thing is half-bronzed! Any cure for that other than ceramic or tossing it? >:(

Paint it black.  See above.

Title: Re: Muffler's that don't discolor ???
Post by onedivision on 07/04/07 at 02:44:18


Savage_Rob wrote:

Paint it black.  See above.

Gonna take your advice & go with Black. After seeing yours & my brother gave me some black ceramic paint, so I'll upload pics afterward... :o

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