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Message started by mavrik on 05/17/07 at 06:04:58

Title: Who's got gas??
Post by mavrik on 05/17/07 at 06:04:58

Ok Newbie question here

Suzi has a small tank, and so on long hauls is it a good idea to put say a gallon gas container in the saddle bag?
Just in case?

Is it safe or could it be a problem eg. crash

Cheers

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by LANCER on 05/17/07 at 06:16:56

I always found that after riding 100 miles I need to get off and stretch, bathroom, drink, etc so there was never a problem of not having enough.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by georgekathe on 05/17/07 at 07:09:35

maybe I'm paranoid but I've always thought of carrying container of gas not to be good idea in case of spill - I mean you & bike go down causing can to leak & gas to go on hot engine & catch fire. know I have a vivid sense of imagination, but there you go...

saying that, I've also always found 100 miles a decent distance to go on just about any bike as a decent ride to then get off & stretch, go to loo (english slang for "the john/the can"), drink, whatever so concur with Lancer.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Greg_650 on 05/17/07 at 07:19:45

georgekathe wrote:

Well, a person could easily counter that logic by saying that you are already riding a motorcycle that has a vented gas can mounted above a hot engine and located intimately close to your groin. So what's the difference?

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by clueless on 05/17/07 at 07:49:39

Reserve has always got me to the next gas station. My pet c0ck has not been modified and I don't run on "prime".

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/07 at 08:09:48

My thoughts on carrying a spare can are the same. And I'm looking for the right size can and location to carry.

Certainly a pint is enough in town, gas stations are only 1/4 mile apart most cases.

As for where to carry, I don't have saddle bag.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by georgekathe on 05/17/07 at 09:14:59

understand what you are saying Greg but in all times bike has gone down on me I've never had gas come out of the tank. as far as riding along with it stuck between your legs, yeah, it is a bit crazy, but is a bit like the old time fighter boys flying with gas tanks in their fuselage under their arses! me, I'll stick with having a reserve on my one tank & making sure I never run out (which I never have - come close but I've actually run out on a car when I first got one because I forgot there was no reserve & the fuel guage was a little bit misleading.) :P

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/17/07 at 10:34:35

Aye, I'll just use the reserve rhink about maybe getting a TourTank if I think I need it.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by allan on 05/17/07 at 11:16:29

I carry a 1 litre fuel bottle (ally) in a toolroll strapped onto my handlebars just in case, ;)
checkout topic My family and look at 1st bike you can just make it out, bottle is from trek mates to carry fuel for a cooker.

allan,

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/07 at 13:12:40

Where's the pic?

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by youzguyz on 05/17/07 at 13:21:36

verslagen1 wrote:

Where's the pic?

Found it.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1173626427;start=0#0

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Greg_650 on 05/17/07 at 14:01:32

georgekathe wrote:

Yes but, in truth, the gas cap on your tank is vented, and if you lay it down on the right side with enough gas, it will leak out the cap.

On the other hand, a spare container is probably sealed tight and won't leak unless it becomes ruptured. The other differences being that it isn't as close to hot parts or it isn't rigidly mounted to the bike in a saddle bag.

What was my point? I don't think there is anymore fire danger one way or the other. Myself, I try to fill up every 100 miles.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Starlifter on 05/17/07 at 19:41:37

Anybody know about haw many miles you have left when you swithc to reserve?

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Greg_650 on 05/17/07 at 20:04:30

Best found out in the saddle. Just be within 15 miles of a gas station when that happens.

Varies from 100 - 120 miles depending on whether you ever get it out of first gear :P

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Doc_Holliday on 05/17/07 at 20:34:19

The only time i would carry extra fuel is if i was going cross country. I was on I-40 going through the mojave, i passed a gas station with a little under half a tank in my neon, i said "ill get gas at the next station." Well, that next station didnt come until i was on fumes, i was unaware(being from ky) that there were stretches that deserted left in the united states. That was scary, even though they have those little call boxes now and then its still a bit scary out in the desert. I remember i got off at a place called "rattlesnake wash" in arizona(mojave desert) and thought id find gas there, lol, no such luck the road turned to dirt, then to complete desert and there i was driving a neon in the desert. -DOC

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/07 at 21:42:08

You should have a little more than a half gallon. I think it varies bike to bike. ;D

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Greg_650 on 05/17/07 at 22:36:01

verslagen1 wrote:

You should have a little more than a half gallon. I think it varies bike to bike. ;D

And as I think we know from this forum...it varies rider to rider, too.

I just haven't figured out if it is due to riding technique or math skill :P

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/18/07 at 05:59:48

Well, besides the various tanks available at http://www.tourtank.com/, I noticed a couple of other options at http://www.tourbuddy.com/. I am inclined toward the TourTank but haven't needed one yet.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by astrolin on 05/18/07 at 14:13:19

I just recently bought a Savage, but it didn't come with the owners manual. I was wondering what kind of gas works best in it? Any thoughts.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Scottwerty on 05/18/07 at 14:18:55

manual says 87 octane but I use 89 guess its a preference thing, plus the beast gets great gas mileage so whats a few cents more

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by georgekathe on 05/18/07 at 16:18:50

mine seems to run fine on 87.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Paladin on 05/18/07 at 20:57:52

Doc_Holliday wrote:

The only time i would carry extra fuel is if i was going cross country. I was on I-40 going through the mojave, i passed a gas station. . . .

I-40 starts in Barstow, California; which has a dozen or so gas stations. 18 miles east is a 24 hour truck stop. Another 24 hour truck stop 5 miles further.

You then have an 83 mile run to the next truck stop on Goffs road.

Another 33 miles and you're in Needles with another dozen or so places to get gas.

So yeah, if you don't know about that 80 mile gap you might be in trouble. However, with the Internet you can locate stations, complete with telephone numbers to call to verify that they still exist. If you plan ahead, you can gas up at less than 100 mile intervals pretty near anywhere in the U.S.. To help plan I have a page of links to gasoline (http://www.andruschak.net/GAS/index.htm) locators.

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Doc_Holliday on 05/18/07 at 21:19:58

My neon has a small tank anyway, and the needle drops quick after 1/2 tank. I had between 1/4 and 1/2 and drove for what seemed like ages( i guess just because i thought i was gonna run out and because i drove about 4 miles out of my way through the freaking desert...lol)

I guess with some knowledge(of which i had none) you could make it cross country on a savage without a hitch, as long as you hit exactly the right gas stations...makes me consider making the trip by bike! That would be a blast! -DOC

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by Greg_650 on 05/18/07 at 21:43:35

Paladin wrote:

I did some of that I-40, only I came from the wrong direction :P

Title: Re: Who's got gas??
Post by smokey02 on 05/23/07 at 13:39:23

Mine hits reserve at about 115mi, then I try to fill it before I get to 140mi. But just in case I miss it, I have a Seafoam can full of gas (12 oz.) in my fork bag, which should be good for about 5 mi. (see pic under my name) I use 87 octane.