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Title: miles and miles and...... Post by norway on 04/30/07 at 09:49:59 I would like to get some feedback from all you fine people on how the total mileage on your savage. I was told by a guy at my lokal suzuki dealer/workshop that the savage is the poorest bike suzuki has ever made, and that I shouldnt invest to much money in my bike. I was totally p****d off and told the man that I bought my savage in 1992(its a 1985 mod.) it has run over 150 000 km (approx.94 000 miles) without any problems exept plug cap leak, which I by the way fixed just last year.He said I had been lucky, so I just wanna know how "lucky" I actually am, or just acknowledge the fact that the savage simply is a kick a** bike. comments please. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by KenGLong on 04/30/07 at 10:48:28 You got a good one! Ken |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by LANCER on 04/30/07 at 11:10:23 There are other owners out there who have had good success with the Savage |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by firsts40 on 04/30/07 at 11:31:12 :) It looks as if you have kept the maintenance up quite well, and you say it is a "mod", so who ever did the mods, knew what they were doing. This has been discussed before, and the milage some people have on their Savage is beyond what some cars get. All I have to say is, my 06 S40 is still new as far as milage goes, only about 4800 miles, but I plan on keeping the preventive maintenance done, and I also am a conservative rider. As long as the Savage/S40 is taken care of and is not driven as if it is a crotch rocket, I would say it should last well ito the six digit area. Unlike some riders, I can not tell what it will top out at, or do I care. I have had my 06 S40 up to a little over 80 and it was not topped out. I shift at conservative speeds (15-20, 25-30, 45-55) without winding it out. DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME, I have nothing against doing mods to get more out of the engine, because some mods are good to improve general performance, but I am not doing any to mine. I guess the bottom line is that if you take care of it, and only have someone you knows what they are doing, do mods to it, and don't ride it like it is a crotch rocket, it should give the owner many miles and years of VERY enjoyable riding. IF WHAT THE DEALER TOLD YOU IS TRUE, WHY HAS IT BEEN AROUND FOR 20+ YEARS. I think he is only tying to sell the larger bikes for a larger commission. My dealer tole me the opposite with the same information I have jusy told you. I ride with the Patriot Guard Riders and the "big bike" riders are amased at the performance the S40 has being completely stock, and we do a LOT of highway riding. Ride Safe :) 8) |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by Paladin on 04/30/07 at 11:48:34 norway wrote:
A motorcycle model with a 20+ year production run cannot be "the poorest bike Suzuki has ever made." Unless you are looking at if from a dealer's perspective. It is one of the least expensive, meaning a smaller profit margin on initial sale. It is easy to maintain, meaning you don't need the dealer for oil changes, valve adjusts, brakes, tuneups, etc.. It could very easily be the poorest bike ever made as far as the dealer is concerned as they can make a LOT more money if they can talk you into getting a computer controlled fuel injected liquid cooled technological masterpiece that must be taken to the dealer for service. When it's a choice between me keeping my money and the Stealership getting it -- I prefer me. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by Savage Librarian on 04/30/07 at 12:11:01 norway wrote:
The worst Suzuki I've encountered was one my dad had. It was a dual purpose PM 250 (Yes, that's a PM, not a RM, DR, SP...). Basically a mash between a couple different bikes. Every time he needed a part, it was impossible to find, and no one else I've encountered has ever heard of it. In any case, not only was it impossible to get parts for, it needed them constantly, as it was constantly breaking down. Not to mention underpowered. My dad paid $500 for it, and ended up thinking he paid too much for it. He ended up trading it for a guitar. Our beloved Savage is certainly better than that! |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by justin_o_guy on 05/01/07 at 00:59:43 I have no idea how far I will ride this one, but I saw one in a Wal-Mart lot that had a ton of miles on it. It was plenty ugly but it was someones daily rider. I wish I could remember the mileage, all I remember was it was enough to shock me. No kidding, a dealer told you a bike thats been on the market this many years was one of Suzi's wor\st? IF they are so bad, how do they maintain the market for them? Crappy bikes dont stay on the market long. Bike riders become aware of the problems & avoid the bike pretty quickly. That dealer has an agenda & it's not to help you. My opinion,, |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by serowbot on 05/01/07 at 22:24:56 Hope all you guys are right, cause I was a little sad when mine went past 10k miles, and I want to ride it forever. I love my bike and no other model out there comes close, for me. Please tell it will last forever. Yesterday, outside the bookstore, a guy on a really tricked out bobber sportser was waiting outside to ask me about my bike. Not usually jap bike fans, but this is not your usual jap bike. This bike has lots of classic lines and lots of custom potential. I see so many varieties on this site. Most bikes today you customize by adding billet aluminum or chrome and it ends up looking like all the rest anyway. Boring! |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by T140V on 05/01/07 at 22:33:39 I'd say the guy probably doesn't like singles or cruisers. It's not luck to get that kind of mileage. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by justin_o_guy on 05/02/07 at 06:34:41 Well, Serowbot, I wont say you will ride it forever. Stuff does wear out. But, the bike I saw was so ugly it should have been shot, but the guy was still riding it. Maybe in 10 years or so, you will just get a new one... |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by tomcat on 05/03/07 at 10:36:04 I've only got about 36000 miles on mine. No major problems yet (I put 35k of those miles on it) and mine is a daily driver. I'd prolly have to ask him what he meant by 'worst' (it's missing a cylinder? it's a one-up bike with a passenger pillion? you've had to work on some of them and you know what you're talking about? what?). My savage is a little small and underpowered for the riding that I do but I sure can't claim it's a bad bike. Gets me around and hasn't left me stranded yet. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by WD on 05/04/07 at 20:17:06 I sold my Vulcan 800A. I kept my Savage. 'nuff said... -WD |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by Fido_the_Cat on 05/04/07 at 20:58:40 There is nothing wrong with your bike... Your salesman needs reconditioning. You can't just go to the in-town bike shoppe and get the "latest and greatest' Bling-Bling for your bike. Ours are customized by American made intuition from the backyards, basements, and garages of this great land. Not a double markup blister-pack that without fail will have "made in -$#%@%$^. There are bullet proof and driveway ornaments cycles. Taking proper care of it will have more of an effect on it's durability. WD, I really thought you would have more to say, although perhaps you said it best. Nuff said. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by verslagen1 on 05/04/07 at 21:20:37 One man trash is another's treasure. Since the Savage is a diamond in the rough, he can't see the posibilities or doesn't know how to polish. |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by PA KID on 05/05/07 at 06:10:34 Ahh yes the poorist bike in the suzuki line,beats those with a higher price tag. :o |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by Phelonius on 05/05/07 at 06:57:55 Other than the forward controls and cruiser seat, neither of which I care much for, the savage is a no frills generic motorcycle. Given proper care, I believe it is capable of a lot of trouble free miles. It is not meant to be reved to warp speed RPMs, It is not sucessfull as a drag racer or puka road racer. It is inexpensive because it is none of these things. That is also why I chose it. I am currently using it to carry a sidecar for ordinary tripping and gofer duties. It seems to do well at these. If I later on want more power, it will probably not be to hard to draw a little more out of it since it is so mildly tuned as is. If you are looking for ego enhancement, or depend upon the opinions of people you don't even know to make you feel good about yourself, buy a Harley. They make very fine large pieces of jewelry you can wear on your butt to show how much of your individualism you are willing to give up to fit in to someone elses idea of what is best. Decide what kind of riding you want to do and buy accordingly. My other mount is a DR650SE. It is noticably more powerful and a lot more nimble and I enjoy riding it greatly, especially if I am in a hurry. The S-40 is a completely different animal designed to give the most smiles per gallon for a modest price. Since it is inexpensive, You have more cash left for mods to personalize it to your own taste. Just be aware that no matter what you do, It will never be a Harley, never whip a canyon racer, and never leave a 50 yard smoking strip of wasted rubber. If you can live without those fantasies, you can get the full enjoyment from your ride. After 43 motorcycles and 42 years of licensed motorcycling, having owned 6 Harleys and 3 BMWs 2Motoguzzi 1100s, and a host of others, why would I pick the humble savage? Because I like it, and I did not choose it to meet someone elses criteria of what is best for me. I do not choose a motorcycle so as to meet someone elses approval. The money I saved allows me to make a lot of changes like the sidecar and the Harley saddle I put on the bike. BTW, the saddle is one thing that Harley does very well. With the good MPG that the savage is capable of I can afford to ride more often than with a more wastefull machine. Expensive tickets are handed out on many roads at speeds above 55MPH anyway so why do I need 1800cc of fuel burning status symbol? Nuff said, I like it, that's why. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by Oldfeller2 on 05/05/07 at 11:51:46 I don't think our Savages will "die" -- they will just get to the right place for the next set of modifications. We do get excellent prior warnings of the various "death points" you know -- I'd be a slacker in extreme to get caught by the cam tensioner coming apart on me after all this good info (15,000 miles, she's going apart for the latest & greatest fix as identified at that point in time). By the time mine finally gets enough miles to get rickety I fully expect to have participated in the third super piston group buy (and I do mean the really big one that fits the nikasil coated aluminum bore that you get when you take the steel liner sleeve completely outta there). If my crank is getting sad by then, why then I'll get me a Stroker-2 kit with the improved oversized bearings. I'll mate her up with the Lancer-3 cam, the new one that goes along with the new outside adjustable Lightningstrike ignition timing module and a set of the new synthetic Sliptrol high performance clutch plates. And then I'll go thump me some more ..... 950 ccs worth of high rev'n tire smoking thump. Who knows where it will end? My Savage will likely outlast me. Outperform me, too. <grin> Oldfeller |
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Title: Re: miles and miles and...... Post by firsts40 on 05/05/07 at 12:52:43 I agree with Philonius 100%. Like I always say about the S40.....Love it as is for what it is. I have 5000 miles on my 06 S40 with many of the miles at between 65 an 70, but it is happiest at between 50 and 60. With the price od gas as it is now, I enjoy 55 to 63 MPG, depending on how I am driving. Every mission I go on with the PGR, the HD riders are always impressed with the little bike with "half an engine". Some of them used to be Savage riders and know what the S40 is capable completely stock, so they just nod their heads in favor. Always ride safe within your limitations :) 8) |
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