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Message started by Trippah on 04/11/07 at 16:26:59

Title: problems with petthingy
Post by Trippah on 04/11/07 at 16:26:59

I could really start to smell gasoline after 40 minute ride. Back at the house i noticed gas dripping ocasionally from rear leaft hand edge of tank. Emptied it, removed it. Took off the petthingy to remove tank. After replacing the petthingy, put in some gas, couldn't find any leak...at least none so far. the bad nesws was i droppedd the rubber washer from the speedo cable in under the generator/alternator. Hmm, not ready for prime time yet. maybe s jet blast of water will get it out for me.

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Trippah on 04/11/07 at 16:51:30

eerr- how about starter motor nestled behind the cylinder. Gotta get some coffee ;D Thats what I meant and i'm sticking with the story. :-[

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by georgekathe on 04/11/07 at 17:19:17

I did not lose mine - first time I took tank off it did not even come out. second time I took off tank I fished it out of speedo cable & swapped it for a gromet of suitable size from local hardware store (True Value in my case), nipped up the nurled part of speed cable gently with pliers & have had no leak. maybe this will work for you?

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Reelthing on 04/11/07 at 21:21:42

[quote author=Trippah link=board=RubberSideDown;num=1176334019;start=0#1 date=04/11/07 at 16:51:30]eerr- how about starter motor nestled behind the cylinder. Gotta get some coffee ;D Thats what I meant and i'm sticking with the story. :-[/quote]

ah yes the magic of that slot - anything you drop within 5feet is likely to end up in there - having fished many a thing out - step 1 is now to put a shop towel over the dang starter. - it pulls pretty easy - but still....

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/11/07 at 21:46:03

Remove 2 bolts for the starter.

Get the seal.

Put oil on o-ring, and gently wiggle starter back in place.

(optionally remove dead bugs and dirt from under starter before reinstall)

Replace 2 bolts for starter.

Replace seal in speedo cable.

Go online and buy manual at Amazon.

Go for ride ;D

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by PerrydaSavage on 04/12/07 at 00:48:39

;D LOL!! Had this exact same thing happen to me a couple of years ago! Yup, the starter pulls easily and yes there definitely will be a few mummified bugs under there!

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/12/07 at 07:37:15

Also, a good view of the drain hole, which produces the mystery oil leak by the front pulley if you cut the starter o-ring...gotta take a few extra seconds to lube that puppy :P

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by serowbot on 04/12/07 at 11:26:02

Here's a tip! Slide a bookmark size slip of paper down the space and wiggle it from the from the pulley side to the speedo side and you will scoot that o-ring to a place where you can grab it with a forcep /roach clip.

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/12/07 at 12:24:54

serowbot wrote:

Doesn't everyone have a roach clip in their toolbox?

That was one of my first tools...of course, now I might have a hard time finding it ;D

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Digger on 04/12/07 at 19:40:53

Greg_650 wrote:

Greg,

You've left out a few steps at the end:

Notice leak at bottom of speedo cable.

Replace junk OEM seal with proper sized rubber o-ring.

Ride happily ever after!

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/13/07 at 05:25:58

Better use a nitrile o-ring.

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by justin_o_guy on 04/13/07 at 10:27:06

I've lost mine a couple O times. I take an O-ring, last one was over an inch in diameter, & cut , at an angle, with dikes. Then I cut it down & use the same angle so the other end overlaps. Havent had a leak yet. It takes a few minutes, but the trick is to make it a few thousandths long, this sticks it in there when the ends press together & the ends pressing togerther seals the slice. With it being at an angle, not sure why I cut it at an angle, just felt right & I did it. All we need to make this work is an Oring long enough to do the job & a cross sectional area that is close to stock, & it doesnt have to be very close to make a new seal work just fine.
Oh, BTW, it does require a small screwdriver & maybe a scratch awl to make one go in & ovrlap right. Needlsnose are nice, too.

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/13/07 at 10:55:13

Digger wrote:

Greg,

You've left out a few steps at the end:

Notice leak at bottom of speedo cable.

Replace junk OEM seal with proper sized rubber o-ring.

Ride happily ever after!

I wasn't aware that anyone actually tried my o-ring substitution :)

Anyway, thanks for the correction...

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/13/07 at 11:01:09

justin_o_guy wrote:

Now, that's just plain lazy. You can't stop in at your local Ace Hardware and spend 15 cents?

Just kidding. If it works, It works.

;D

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/13/07 at 13:17:02

Greg_650 wrote:

Now, that's just plain lazy. You can't stop in at your local Ace Hardware and spend 15 cents?

Just kidding. If it works, It works.

;D

I spent about $4 at Harbor Freight and got a box of several hundred nitrile o-rings of varying sizes.

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Rockin_John on 04/13/07 at 13:27:48

Reelthing wrote:

ah yes the magic of that slot - anything you drop within 5feet is likely to end up in there

That's why it is nicknamed the "Black Hole!" There is a gravity field around it that will suck in any free falling object. ;)

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Trippah on 04/13/07 at 17:15:32

Thanks all for your help and guidence- I gave up my roach clip in vietnam- 122 rockets make an interesting explosion when you are in the "right place." Will get out there tomorrow before the next Spring time snow storm and get her cleaned up. Serowbot- will try your method- I do have forceps..a benny from working with a MD.
As an aside- actually the beginning, I think it was the petthingy that was leaking..of all things, must have jarred it loose when removing the tank for the spacer mod. Have put some fuel in, no leak yet- but will have to get the above taken care of before a test drive.
Thanks again evryone. :D

Title: Re: problems with petthingy
Post by Greg_650 on 04/14/07 at 08:37:58

Try turning the bike over and using anti-gravity to get it out, unless you have really really curved forceps.

An air hose and nozzle might be handy too...just cover your eyes from all the dead bug parts flying out ::)

Of course, in the time that it takes to write a reply, you could have removed the starter. Ask Stinger, I removed his the other day :P