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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Lifting Your Savage /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1175393533 Message started by gary_ona_savage on 03/31/07 at 19:12:13 |
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Title: Lifting Your Savage Post by gary_ona_savage on 03/31/07 at 19:12:13 OK. I'm planning some work on the Savage which requires the bike lifted (fork removal, rear tire removal ect). So I went out and bought a motorcycle/atv lift this weekend. After putting it together I tried to lift my bike only to have a heck of a time doing it (alone I might add). And once I got it up, it just seemed to unsafe to even work on. So my question is...how do you lift your bike to do any work on it (safely). I'm going to be painting it (tank fenders ect) as well as fixing a leaking fork seal. So how should I go about it? Thanks in advance Gary |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by justin_o_guy on 03/31/07 at 19:20:39 Those lifts that go under the engine & don't support anything but that short section of frame give me the willies. I would need to see someone use one safely before I would consider it. If I had no rafters in the garage( which I do & can hang a come along & rope to lift either end O the bike) I would consider building a frame to lift it by. Having it hoisted means I don't worry about knocking it over. I don't have to work around anything or reach over anything. I stuck casters on an old(1962 model, fiberglass & steel construction) milk crate & tossed a pillow on it for a seat to work on the bike from. That also makes getting wheels on easy. I can set the height close enough to make it real easy. The price was nice too. I had the come along for 25 years & the rope was Cheeeaaap.. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by TVR on 03/31/07 at 19:23:23 Mine is pretty solid on the jack. Easy to lift alone. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u193/TVR_LS650/Bikejack.jpg |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Holodeck on 03/31/07 at 19:28:41 Put a piece of plywood on the rails, it will feel a lot more secure. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by gary_ona_savage on 03/31/07 at 19:30:46 TVR, are you using tie down straps? I can't tell from the picture... Justin, no rafters I can get to easily. The ceiling is finished. Looks prettier, but is less useful. On my old dirt bikes me and someone would just lift 'em up on and set them on a crate. But this bike is much heavier and the balance is different. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Reelthing on 03/31/07 at 19:44:27 I use a jack like tvr's and the straps - just be careful where you put them - but once you jack it up enough to tighten the straps ( jack it up about where you want it - then put on the straps anchored to the base and jack it up a little more to fully tighten them) you can roll it around, very steady. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by TVR on 03/31/07 at 19:46:03 Strapless...... :o |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by gary_ona_savage on 03/31/07 at 19:54:52 TVR wrote:
Yeah...well... some people need more support than others... Realthing, where do you run your straps across? I was thinking about running them through the handlebars for more stability. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Reelthing on 03/31/07 at 19:57:46 i use at least one across the starter - or the gap just in front of it |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by gary_ona_savage on 03/31/07 at 20:07:04 OK. I just realized why it seems so wobbly. There is no support on the left side of the rear rail. TVR...you scare me if you work on your bike like that! Realthing, thanks! |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by verslagen1 on 03/31/07 at 20:52:25 When I need to, I use a multi position folding ladder. Take the seat off the bike. Position the ladder over your bike. Tie a rope to one shock mounts. Loop it over the top most bar of the ladder. Loop it under the other shock mount. Repeat until you can lift it. Try to arraigne the ropes to travel it the same direction. Any overhead pipe that you can swing on without fear of pulling it loose will do. ;D |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Paladin on 03/31/07 at 22:35:26 Swapped out the rear wheel this morning. Considered Greg's 2x4 front wheel holder and decided it was overkill and far too expensive ($3 or so!) Ended up simply staking the front end down and jacking up under the rear of the engine/transmission: http://paladin.savageriders.com/BikeLift.jpg |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Greg_650 on 04/01/07 at 06:43:42 Too expensive ;D You've got a small fortune in nylon rope and camping stakes in that setup. But will that allow you to do this, too? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/BikeStandIMG_9310.jpg |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Paladin on 04/01/07 at 07:21:43 Lifting the front end is even easier -- as I discovered when I had my front tire replaced. I did the same to change the brake pads: http://savage.andruschak.net/Paladin/Im002921.jpg Lifting the Savage doesn't take much effort. (fwiw I will be making your little T -- it'll be faster than the stakeout for later lifts.) Does anyone have an engine hoist? |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Greg_650 on 04/01/07 at 07:32:52 Paladin wrote:
I will admit that you definitely have enough jack for the job :) You have good examples of how to "git 'er done" for sure. Why not throw these into my "Poor Man's Bike Stand" topic for added options? Yeah, an engine hoist would do the trick too. Just have to work around those pesky legs. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Paladin on 04/01/07 at 08:20:47 Done. I am rather abusive to my tools -- a horrid fault, but that's how I am. I try to buy stuff I'll have trouble breaking. Sometimes I succeed. The Savage is doing remarkably well in that respect! |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Greg_650 on 04/01/07 at 08:31:56 Paladin wrote:
My way too. I like to buy tools once...;D |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by ghryx on 12/16/15 at 15:49:06 So I've got a huge head-scratcher - I've pulled the tank, front fender and side covers to get them painted while I do the dreaded oil-leak fix. I went out and picked up the 1500lb Harbor Freight lift to get the thing in the air so I can pull the back wheel to get to the rear fender bolts, but no matter what I try, all I'm doing is lifting the front end. Rear wheel stays firmly attached to mother earth. I'm putting the lift under the engine basket 'cause that seems to be the only logical place to put it. I've dug through the forum and I'm obviously missing something...um...obvious. any thoughts? |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Blade on 12/17/15 at 03:08:49 Something like this Verslagen? this is my VX800 during its transformation- |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Dave on 12/17/15 at 04:56:29 Getting the back wheel of the ground with a "motorcycle lift" type of jack is a bit difficult, as it is hard to get it back far enough to lift the rear wheel. You can place some boards/shims on the rear part of the lift to help get the lifting done toward the rear of the bike - but the muffler makes the bike want to jack up crooked. Jacking on the flat spot under the bracket for the muffler is a good place to lift the rear wheel - but the bike is somewhat tippy when you only have that support. If you can stick the front wheel up against a wall, and then put some eyebolts in the wall.....you can use straps to hold the front of the bike down and stabilize it - then the bike lift will raise the back wheel as the front of the bike is tied down. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by DesertRat on 12/17/15 at 07:17:47 I put OSB or 2x4's or 2x6's across the rails on my motorcycle lift, then shim the rear just under the exhaust mount. I didn't use a strap, I tend to be gentle and not caveman $hit when working on this stuff. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by KennyG on 12/17/15 at 13:48:22 I made one of the "$20.00 Motorcycle Lifts" when I had a Yamaha V-Star. I looked the S40 over this morning, and with the Dyna muffler I think it should work to lift the back end to remove the wheel. I hope so, because I am about due for a rear tire. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Serowbot on 12/17/15 at 14:58:05 Too easy.. :-? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbuOh9l1es&feature=channel&list=UL[/media] |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Tocsik on 12/17/15 at 15:09:31 use the cheap bike lift with eye bolts and 4 straps; make at lest 2 of 'em ratchet straps. If you look at my pic, you can also see a chunk of 4X4 post supporting the rearward section. http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/S40/speeder%20bike_zpsyxjjpvax.jpg (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Tocsik87/media/S40/speeder%20bike_zpsyxjjpvax.jpg.html) |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by KennyG on 12/17/15 at 18:30:41 Serowbot & Tocsik, Thanks, it looks like my $20.00 lift will work with ratchet tie downs. Never throw anything away when you sell a motorcycle. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Matt_greatlakesstate on 12/18/15 at 14:51:19 I lift it, push the front end down, and put jack stands under the frame and passenger peg. Works great and bike is solid |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Art Webb on 12/18/15 at 20:16:26 I just leave mine on the sidestand and jack it up with a floor jack under the muff bracket, works well, if you're not ham fisted |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Rodger on 12/20/15 at 18:48:35 Speaking of lifting...check out this photo from Vulcan Riders' website.... Such faith in a sidestand pivot bolt!! |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Kris01 on 12/20/15 at 18:57:12 There's no difference in that pic and just parking on the street (as far as the kickstand is concerned). There's no added stress to the kickstand. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Rodger on 12/20/15 at 19:17:07 Perhaps, Kris...but I sure would't crawl under it or work on my Nomad like this. I posted it just for fun. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Kris01 on 12/20/15 at 19:42:55 Oh, I gotcha! I wouldn't crawl under it either. It just seems a little too "iffy"! |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Neilap on 12/21/15 at 17:45:34 I lifted my bike up and sat it down on two cinderblocks with a towel ontop of them. if your strong enough to lift a savage it works really well. that and I couldnt afford to make a home-made stand when I changed my rear tire. if not you can lean the bike over on the kickstand and scoot the cinderblock under it then wiggle it on. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by Art Webb on 12/22/15 at 08:09:28 are there lots of cinderblocks along the roads where you ride? It works very well, but it's a big item to bring along with you |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/27/15 at 19:54:22 555B4D4F47414A220 wrote:
I got no problem getting under it. If I was afraid to get under it, I'd be afraid to park it and walk away. What I AM wondering about is how the rider got that rear tire riding up the ramp forward and somehow managed to back the front tire up the other ramp. But, it IS a Vulcan, and Vulcans are different. I could get into a corner induced mind meld. |
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Title: Re: Lifting Your Savage Post by FickAJ on 03/13/16 at 09:05:18 I just bought the cheapest harbor freight lift at a tent sale special for $59. I used my tale saw and ripped a pice of oak 1/2"x4"x16" to use as a shim on the left side. It works perfect. very steady. throw on a few straps and off comes the tires for new hoops!! Fick |
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