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Title: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by praetorian on 03/26/07 at 10:12:18 So my Savage has 2 Neutrals. When shifting from 4th to 5th under acceleration, I find myself in neutral. I have to pull the clutch in again and pull up on the shift peg a 2nd time to engage 5th. This doesn't happen everytime,but prolly about 50% of the time. Any ideas? Thanks. Robert BTW: it is a 1996 LS650 with 8100 mile on the clock. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by vroom1776 on 03/26/07 at 10:51:35 I've go the same problem w/ my 97... when shifting between 4th and 5th, if you have this problem, you need to: 1) pull in the clutch 2) upshift normally while still holding the clutch in 3) Keep pushing the shifter up (not too hrad, just normal) 4) realease clutch this hould prevent false neutrals... |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by Reelthing on 03/26/07 at 10:53:47 Something could be wrong I guess - but after my left foot was trained it no longer happens - it was a slow learner likely took almost daily commute ride and 4 or 5 months. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by grim on 03/26/07 at 11:00:01 Does anyone think adjusting the clutch will help? Like tightening up the cable so when you pull the clutch in, it will "pull in" more and not get stuck in between gears....??? |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by Savage_Rob on 03/26/07 at 11:11:54 I'm not sure what this problem would be but adjusting the clutch cable couldn't hurt as long as it's adjusted properly. You don't want it too tight or the clutch won't engage fully and you'll get apparent clutch slippage. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by verslagen1 on 03/26/07 at 11:24:39 I too have the same problem. I don't think it's anything to do with the clutch. I generally use a clutchless shift from 3rd up. We discussed this before and the only guess was maybe the shifter was bent. But since not affecting anything else, not a problem. Learn to deal with it. ;D |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by barry68v10 on 03/26/07 at 14:34:53 I have a '97. Never had that happen and rarely use the clutch for 4-5 shifts... |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by justin_o_guy on 03/26/07 at 15:21:15 I have an 05 & from the beginning it felt like the shifter stopped in its travel quicker inb the 4th to 5th shift than any others. It never popped out & as soon as I put power to it I could pull the clutch & try to set the shifter again & it would be fully engaged & would not advance. I could, however, hold the clutch in & let pressure off the shifter & pull up again & it would go on in. So, try letting off the shifter a bit & then give it a fair heave up again & see if it popps on into fifth. After you do this a few times maybe it will start allowing it to engage easier. You might try just making the initial shift attempt a bit more vigorous.. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by hutch on 03/26/07 at 15:25:14 My 06 was a little stiff going into 5th, but after using my suicide(no clutch) for the last 300 miles, there is no more missed fifth. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by gary_ona_savage on 03/26/07 at 16:01:37 My '95 misses the shift into 5th as well. I notice that I have to be very deliberate to shift all the way into 5th otherwise it sticks in neutral or pops out of 5th. I've just learned to kick it twice with my foot to make sure it's in gear. Gary |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by Scottwerty on 03/26/07 at 16:05:34 Usually that only happens between 1st and 2nd with me, but thats because of Netrual being in the middle. Just power shift 4th to 5th problem solved, as long as its done correctly. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by serowbot on 03/26/07 at 19:25:16 I get the 4 -5 false neutral every once in a while too. Less now than I used to. I think part of it was not fully letting the shift lever come down after the 4th gear shift. Maybe try that. Somehow it gets better with time, just by knowing that it happens you get a bit more positive on that shift. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by thumperclone on 03/26/07 at 19:47:15 ls 650 has a wet clutch.. 8) low oil level, pressure/rpm can influence shifts... |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by smokey02 on 03/26/07 at 23:15:16 I used to get that false neutral between 4-5 too, and sometimes even between 3-4. But I learned from others here that if you train your toe to hold the shifter up till you let the clutch out, instead of just clicking it up, it rarely misses the next gear. |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by Reelthing on 03/26/07 at 23:16:48 it is true - go ride it 2 or 3 hundred hours and it shifts wonderful |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by firsts40 on 03/27/07 at 18:26:33 I have a 06, and the only difference I see when shifting to 5th, is it seems like it is a "2 stage" shift. What I mean is, it feels like I am shifting from 4th it feels like it clicks into a position between 5th, then pops into 5th (confusing, isn't it). I have come to use it to indicate I am going to 5th. This sounds funny, but when you are driving with a large group and constantly going between 2nd and 4th in and out of traffic, and sometimes riding 3rd for a mile or more, it is easy to forget sometimes (when riding with 30-70 HDs, you can't hear the little Thumper at all). 8) |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by serowbot on 03/27/07 at 19:05:12 firsts40 wrote:
Never thought about it till you mentioned it, but I do that too! |
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Title: Re: Neutral between 4th & 5th????? Post by Grove_Tucky_650 on 03/27/07 at 19:12:25 I thought I was having clutch problems. Good to know this is a common thing. Mine kinda feels like it goes into a "5th" gear but it does not. I just go back down to 4th and back up. |
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